Mission: Space tragedy

[Woody13]

why oh why do people feel so compelled to defend this ride? it appears a child did die on this ride. it should be shut down until they know for sure. the media? the child died on the ride. i wouldn't let any of my kids on this ride after this and before only my teenager.

its not the happiest place when someone dies.

Because, as of now, there is no evidence to suggest that the M:S ride had anything at all to do with the child's death. Causation has to be established first.

 

[speck76]

Because, as of now, there is no evidence to suggest that the M:S ride had any anything at all to do with the child's death. Causation has to be established first.

Agreed

 

[wdwmagic]

why oh why do people feel so compelled to defend this ride? it appears a child did die on this ride.

The reason it is being defended by many, is because there is zero evidence at the moment to link the ride with what happened. If someone dies in a car, would you like to ban all cars from the road, regardless of whether the death was due to natural causes or the car itself? The same applies here.

 

[angelofitaly69]

they have aed machines. i saw them on their maps. a child rarely has a death that is caused by their heart stopping also. usually a respiratory arrest.

YOu are correct about the respitory arrest.

There is one thing that I must add. AED's that are sold to parks and schools and such are not programed for children. AHA defines a child as someone under the age of 8. We carry full heart monitors on our ambulances and they have a button you have to press to switch to child mode for defibulating. Plus there are special patches for children.

 

[dixiegirl]

i am amazed how many people (that know we go to disney every year) have asked me if i went on this ride or if my oldest has....then top it off with" well there gonna be a big lawsuit ".....and blah blah blah.. ..is any one else getting this??? oh i even got.."can you believe they actually have this ride running now ....even the day it happened it was'nt closed for very long." ..yes i know but i have nothing to do with this people...i just go to disney.....anyone else get this??

 

[barnum42]

i am amazed how many people (that know we go to disney every year) have asked me if i went on this ride or if my oldest has....then top it off with" well there gonna be a big lawsuit ".....and blah blah blah.. ..is any one else getting this??? oh i even got.."can you believe they actually have this ride running now ....even the day it happened it was'nt closed for very long." ..yes i know but i have nothing to do with this people...i just go to disney.....anyone else get this??

Nobody has asked me about this. It does not appear to have made it to the mainstream news in the UK.

 

[daveemtdave]

The reason it is being defended by many, is because there is zero evidence at the moment to link the ride with what happened. If someone dies in a car, would you like to ban all cars from the road, regardless of whether the death was due to natural causes or the car itself? The same applies here.

An excellant comparison

 

[Shaman]

why oh why do people feel so compelled to defend this ride? it appears a child did die on this ride. it should be shut down until they know for sure. the media? the child died on the ride. i wouldn't let any of my kids on this ride after this and before only my teenager.

its not the happiest place when someone dies.

Millions of people have been on this ride and zero have died on it, that is a fact not an opinion.

I'm not saying M:S isn't to blame for the child's death, no one can make that statement with any amount of certainty just yet...but the stuff thats out there right now indicates (to me atleast) that M:S wasn't the main cause of his death...

Personally, I'll be going to Disney again some time this summer, and will ride M:S...

 

[Shaman]

Interesting....

Full Orlando Sentinel Article
(they have a photo of the child up on their site)

Most of the large parks, though, voluntarily call the state inspectors immediately after problems arise. But the larger parks aren't required to provide the injured rider's identity or other data that would aid state inspectors in tracking down further information, such as a hospital report. Nor do state inspectors determine when a ride that has had an accident at a large park should reopen.

Disney reopened "Mission: Space" the day after Daudi's death when its own engineers determined it was operating normally. But the company that designed "Mission: Space," Pennsylvania-based Entertainment Technology Corporation, has said in a lawsuit that ride safety may have been compromised because their engineers weren't allowed to participate in final safety testing before the ride opened in 2003. Disney officials have denied the allegations. Florida ride bureau officials said they're satisfied with the current arrangement.

:brick:

 

[MiRi]

Daudi's father spoke on the news. They showed it this morning on CBS 4 here in South Florida. He pretty much just said how the family is doing after their loss.

 

[Shaman]

The boy is from Penn and so is ETC....the link is discovered....

:lookaroun

 

[CaliSurfer182]

why oh why do people feel so compelled to defend this ride? it appears a child did die on this ride. it should be shut down until they know for sure. the media? the child died on the ride. i wouldn't let any of my kids on this ride after this and before only my teenager.

its not the happiest place when someone dies.

A possible reason is because things are innocent until proven guilty. If you choose to not allow your children to not ride this attraction then that is your choice, but your choice shouldn't have an effect on others that still deem this ride as safe.

A huge problem I have with the aftermath of this tragedy is every one saying that they aren't going to let their kids ride this attraction now. HELLO, this decision should have been made by parents before hand. Parents need to assess and analyze situations as they present themselves (so they can make informed opinions) not after they occur. I mean think about it would you let a four year old watch an "R" rated movie? Then when they start cursing would there be a huge amount of media coverage, and then people responding about how awful it is that a four year old is cursing so all "R" rated movies should be pulled from the air?

People need to take responsibility of themselves and those around them.
I don't want to trivialize a tragedy such as this, but people need to think before they do something not after it is done.

 

[Pat X]

Interesting....

Full Orlando Sentinel Article
(they have a photo of the child up on their site)


:brick:

The Philly Inquirer yesterday revealed that the "safety" complaint made by ETC in their lawsuit was dropped by the judge overseeing the case stating the ride was determined to be safe by both Disney engineers and the state of Florida whose inspectors reviewed the ride before it was open to the public. Disney is countersuing ETC for shoddy workmanship and delays in contruction.

 

[psuchad]

Ride maker faced design troubles with Disney
By WINSLOW MASON JR.
Bucks County Courier Times
6/16/2005

Four deaths involving Walt Disney World rides have occurred since 2001, according to reports filed with the state:

Feb. 7, 2003: A 31-year-old woman falls on the steps leading into the pool at Disney's Typhoon Lagoon Gang Plank Falls, fracturing her ankle. She dies March 2 as a result of a pulmonary embolism.

March 28, 2003: An 81-year-old woman reports a heart attack after riding Epcot's Universe of Energy and later dies.

Dec. 24, 2004: An 11-year-old girl collapses in line at the Magic Kingdom's Space Mountain ride and later dies.

Feb. 13, 2005: A 77-year-old woman loses consciousness after exiting the Magic Kingdom's Pirates of the Caribbean ride and later dies.

Most notable is the 11 year old that died in line at SM. This just proves that while tragic death is unavoidable.

 

[speck76]

Most notable is the 11 year old that died in line at SM. This just proves that while tragic death is unavoidable.

she had previously ridden SM 3 or 4 times

 

[disneynaco]

How horrible....I can't imagine what the family's going through right now...but they'd be really wrong to sue Disney...just as the ETC company would.

Disney is not only not at fault, they're going to win the lawsuit if there is one. M:S would never have been allowed to open if it were dangerous.

EDIT: Omitted word, sorry.

 

[peter11435]

Disney is not only at fault, they're going to win the lawsuit if there is one. M:S would never have been allowed to open if it were dangerous.

Im really not sure what you are trying to say with that post. First it seems you say Disney was at fault, and then you say there not. Please clairify your opinion.

 

[disneynaco]

Im really not sure what you are trying to say with that post. First it seems you say Disney was at fault, and then you say there not. Please clairify your opinion.

Sorry about that, I accidentally left out a word.

 

[peter11435]

Sorry about that, I accidentally left out a word.

ah, I see.

 

[Gepettotrevor]

I think if that a child meets the height requirement and are free of the conditions listed on the warning signs, they have every right to ride. In my opinion, M:S is too intense for the younger children that meet the requirement.