disney fan 13
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I believe everything until the Water management zone is Lockheed Land.
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Middle Earth theme park at Universal
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articos
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Universal expansion, part deux.
Well, it's pretty quiet...
A lot of Dubai people are going to Moscow and Korea. But not all of them. And Dubai shut down only recently before the holidays, so not everyone's figured out where they're going.
articos
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Yes, with the exception of the Westin and some of the land still owned by Pulte and a parcel Pulte sold to Rosen for expansion. The Vista Cay development is part of the land Pulte bought from Universal, as is the land surrounding Rosen Shingle Creek. (Clarification: "Lockheed Land" meaning all that open for development land shown (with toxin clean-up, as much of this land was used for Martin Marietta's testing ground) is referred to as 'Lockheed Land' because of the history. Lockheed currently actually owns their plant, plus the parcel directly to the east, until it hits the water management zone. The rest of the land to the south and surrounding is owned by a separate real estate management group and is part of the land that was bought and sold by a development and land company associated with Universal's former parent company.
wdwfan4ver
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There is a few rumors with DHS that I think could bring people back, but it really depends if actually happens. D23 is in August. Right the rumors for a DHS is radiator springs racers, Monster Inc. Coster, and another ride according to M.Rudolf . The issue is those attractions, or buildings wouldn't be done before the 2016 to 2018 time period.
I think a Monster Inc. coaster could bring people back. I know it isn't Star Wars, but it is something that can't found at DisneyLand. There is rumors about Star Wars having something new by the 2nd of the 3 new movies, but it really depends on what insider you are talking to in terms of the rumors message board on on this
So the creation of King Kong 360 in USH was what?
articos
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I actually completely forgot about that. (Sorry @GLaDOS, now I know what you were talking about.) I stand corrected. Kong was a bit different from the normal process of building attractions though, because it was part of the new backlot masterplan (The Phoenix Project) that was generated from the exec suite at Universal, in effect bypassing Creative. The backlot is owned by the Studio, so the rebuilding was not the purview of the park, and therefore not farmed to Creative. Peter's involvement was facilitated completely via the studio, directly through Ron Meyer. It was "Would you do this for us?" and then he continued to work through his established contacts at the Studio, with Weta doing a lot of the work and handing it over. There was an assigned group from Creative Hollywood to facilitate the motion base and building, along with show integration for the tram. But as a matter of course, the Creative group based in Orlando isn't in a position to call him and ask to collaborate. Anything like that would be generated from his relationship with the studio, which is Ron.
articos
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Marvel and Seuss are in force for as long as there is use and certain quality standards are maintained. Marvel is exclusive east of the Mississippi, and Seuss is exclusive in the US for up to 3 parks. There is no longer a licence with Dreamworks, but the existing properties that were in the parks prior to the licence expiration can continue to be used as long as the royalties continue to be paid. Potter is approximately a 10 year licence, with the option to renew. It is exclusive to a 250 mile radius of IOA. There are multiple assurances tied to the WB agreement specifically. And King is a licence that expires in 2019, with an option to renew, exclusive to North America.For all intents, yes. If I correctly remember, the contract terminates if Universal has no Marvel-based attractions for 2 years.
So, all Universal needs to do is immediately shutter Marvel Super Hero Island until 2015 and WDW is all set.
scpergj
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Oh, I know all the rumours - I'm a daily regular, even if I don't post overly often - and we'll take a few days now and then to see when these things open...but I'm pretty sure our days of AP's and 14-20 park visits (five or six long weekend stays in WDW resorts) a year are done. Again, as I said....unless Disney can come up with something to wow us and draw us back into the fold. I'm another of the old timers - my family stayed at the Poly back in 1972 (and yes, I remember it...), then visited at least once a year until we moved to Florida in 1979. After that, we were regulars - used to go with friends for just the day back in the '80's, and my wife and I have been taking our kids (AP's every other year) since 2002. I've seen the decline...and it is dang depressing at times.
IowaHawks7
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MiceChat is reporting that Universal Studios is close to acquiring the rights to the Lord of The Rings franchise for their theme parks. It was reported as of yesterday. And is rumored to be along the same lines as WWOHP. Is this their response to Star Wars?? and What does everyone think of this?
EDIT: Here is the Link to the report http://micechat.com/19049-universal-lord-of-the-rings-universal-park/
EDIT: Here is the Link to the report http://micechat.com/19049-universal-lord-of-the-rings-universal-park/
BigThunderMatt
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This is already being talked about in the Universal forum...in multiple threads.
IowaHawks7
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Okay my bad thanks for letting me know
BigThunderMatt
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It isn't though! It has a very deep and intricate lore, far deeper than Potter. Most of the stuff they're using to make the Hobbit (a relatively short book) into 3 films is being pulled from appendices and the Silmarillion. Tolkien created much more of Middle-Earth than was ever published in his lifetime. If they can take a roughly 300 page book plus appendices material/the Silmarillion and draw it out over 9 hours worth of film (more if you count the already confirmed extended editions of each), they certainly have enough material to draw on for a theme park.
Lord of the Rings, indeed, Middle-Earth as a whole, is just as much about the visual richness of the landscape as it is about the specific stories that take place there.
tahqa
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The Hobbit isn't using any material from the Silmarillion as the movie studio doesn't have the rights to it. Per an interview with Peter Jackson:
Have you made inquiries about the rights to "The Silmarillion"?
We've never made a serious inquiry because [the trustees of the Tolkien estate] tell everyone that they've got no intention of allowing them to ever be made into a film. I'm sure over time things will change because the estate will get passed through different pairs of hands. It's inevitable, I think, but certainly not at the moment.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324024004578171412060814862.html
Maerj
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I read somewhere that the Lord of the Rings attraction is planned to based on a 'moving sidewalk' concept where guests get on and walk and keep walking while gorgeous panoramic views of New Zealand are projected behind them. Occaisonally, a monster will appear, followed by more walking.
captainkidd
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Sounds more exciting than the movies.
HMF
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Star Wars Guns maybe. As for Marvel I still don't feel it fits the brand and would like to see it sold preferably to Universal to end the licensing headache.
HMF
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Jackson can't use any sources for the Silmarillion because the insane asylum otherwise known as the Tolkien Estate owns the rights and won't sell them because they think that expanding your IP's appeal is a bad thing apparently.
Lord Pheonix
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i disagree. as i said before, the LOTR world has a much bigger backstory and is more detailed then star wars, and in its own right has just as large of a fan base as star wars. it will detract from disney. not by itself, mind you, but if uni adds several small additions, like potterland, now LOTR, ( and who knows whats next), then little by little they will start to shift the balance of power in the orlando theme park wars and take more and more people from disney. people will still drive and fly to florida for primarily a disney vacation, but instead of spending 7 to ten days exclusivly at wdw, 3 or 4 of those days will now goto uni. i myself have already begun this trend, as im planning my usual 12 day trip in the first week of dec, same one ive done many many times before, except now i plan on spending 3 days not only at uni but at their resort to. thats at least $1000 disney wont get from me in tickets, lodging food, merchandise, etc that instead goes to their compeditor. multiply this by the thousands per year who will do the exact same thing and you can see how easily the profit loss by disney due to uni adds up. disney may not need to build a huge 5th gate, they cant even keep up the 4 gates they have now. but they do need to add expansions and attractions to all there other parks, especially ak, since in winter at most thats an 8 hour park, now that they have the new fl mostly finished.
on a side note, i still hate the idea of tokyo disney, euro disney, disney resorts in hawaii, etc, etc. i think the billions that was spent in building these could have been put into the 2 parks that are quintessencial walt disney, dl and wdw. think of what we would have here if those parks were never built?