Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

[NiarrNDisney]

I don’t disagree necessarily, but I think TSL fits that bill. IMO, what DHS needs is family friendly mid tier (C/D ticket rides). As of next year there will be 6 or 7 E tickets (depending on how you feel about TSMM) plus TSL.

Exactly though I feel at this day an age asking for a Dark ride or fully immersive attraction comes with a huge price tag and clearly throwing a video screen in a room full of rows of seating is the mouses first choice.

The problem is that carnival-style rides generally make the area they're in less immersive, and instead more like an amusement park. One of the features that makes the Disney experience so powerful is that the parks can create the perception that one has stepped into another time and place (immersion). That's what separates true theme parks from amusement parks.

And although I realize that carnival-style rides can be given a backstory/theming so they "fit" as part of an immersive environment (e.g., Dino-Rama), those are fairly transparent attempts to retroactively explain non-immersive elements, plus such rides will nevertheless weaken the aesthetic of the area.

IMHO

Very true however as I said above a square box of a building with a screen does not create kinetic energy or site lines, just queues filled with sun burned guests. I realize spinners/carnival rides come across as cheap but given the right context and theme they can actually help develop a story.
I've dreamt that it would be nice to see a ride like Jumping Jellyfish (DCA) themed to the Little Green Army Men would have been a wonderful addition to TSL and it would mock what taller guests get to experience at ToT for the little ones all culminating to a small guest eater, added kinetics to the land and overall another attraction for an already overwhelmed ride sparse park.

 

[mikejs78]

I think their (somewhat misguided) plan is to have more than one BRAND NEW thing opening at the same time. If they open Mickey early, then the shine and hype has worn off by the time SWL opens. If they open them at the same time, I assume their thinking is that it's another new thing that people will want to do, thereby reducing some of the crowd from SWL.

The biggest problem with that is the fact that DHS has only 4 physical rides (6 once TSL opens), so it's going to be insanity no matter what.

Keep in mind that once SWGE and Mickey open, DHS will have more physical rides than either AK or Epcot. Not that I disagree that they need more rides.

 

[marni1971]

Keep in mind that once SWGE and Mickey open, DHS will have more physical rides than either AK or Epcot. Not that I disagree that they need more rides.

Depends how you define “physical ride”

Star tours
Alcatraz
Bird
Slinky
Saucers
Mickey
RnRC
Tower

SSE
Energy
Space
Test track
Imag
Land
Seas
Mexico
Frozenstrom

Flight
River
Kilimanjaro
Kali
Everest
Primeval
Dinosaur

The count is subject to change of course over the coming years

 

[sunsetblvd26]

Depends how you define “physical ride”

Star tours
Alcatraz
Bird
Slinky
Saucers
Mickey
RnRC
Tower

SSE
Energy
Space
Test track
Imag
Land
Seas
Mexico
Frozenstrom

Flight
River
Kilimanjaro
Kali
Everest
Primeval
Dinosaur

The count is subject to change of course over the coming years

Given Energy isn’t open anymore and DHS also has Mania, the point technically seems to stand.

 

[marni1971]

Given Energy isn’t open anymore and DHS also has Mania, the point technically seems to stand.

Forgot mania, think Guardians.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

Star tours
Alcatraz
Bird
Slinky
Saucers
Mickey
RnRC
Tower
TSMM

SSE
Energy/Guardians
Space
Test track
Imag
Land
Seas
Mexico
Frozenstrom
Soarin'
Rat

Flight
River
Kilimanjaro
Kali
Everest
Primeval
Dinosaur
Train
Triceratops

 

[GlacierGlacier]

Forgot mania, think Guardians.

Guardians won't be open until after Mickey and SWL. It's a bit unfair to include that in the count.

 

[marni1971]

Guardians won't be open until after Mickey and SWL. It's a bit unfair to include that in the count.

I don’t think so. It shows what’s still needed.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Depends how you define “physical ride”

Star tours
Alcatraz
Bird
Slinky
Saucers
Mickey
RnRC
Tower

SSE
Energy
Space
Test track
Imag
Land
Seas
Mexico
Frozenstrom

Flight
River
Kilimanjaro
Kali
Everest
Primeval
Dinosaur

The count is subject to change of course over the coming years

And Land has two rides, and DinoLand has three...

DHS

1. RnRC
2. Tower
3. TSMM
4. Star Tours
5. Slinky (2018)
6. Saucers (2018)
7. Falcon (2019)
8. Alcatraz (2019)
9. Mickey (2019)

Epcot

1. SSE
2. Space (A & B)
3. Test track
4. Imag
5. Land: Soarin'
6. Land: Living with
7. Seas
8. Mexico
9. Frozenstrom
10. Ratatouille (2020)
11. Poppins (2020) {edit: changed from 2021}
12. Energy (2021)

DAK

1. Flight
2. River
3. Kilimanjaro
4. Kali
5. Everest
6. Primeval
7. Dinosaur
8. Spinner
9. Train

 

[marni1971]

And Land has two rides, and DinoLand has three...

DHS

1. RnRC
2. Tower
3. TSMM
4. Star Tours
5. Slinky (2018)
6. Saucers (2018)
7. Falcon (2019)
8. Alcatraz (2019)
9. Mickey (2019)

Epcot

1. SSE
2. Space (A & B)
3. Test track
4. Imag
5. Land: Soarin'
6. Land: Living with
7. Seas
8. Mexico
9. Frozenstrom
10. Ratatouille (2020)
11. Energy (2021)
12. Poppins (2021)

DAK

1. Flight
2. River
3. Kilimanjaro
4. Kali
5. Everest
6. Primeval
7. Dinosaur
8. Spinner
9. Train

Poppins 2020.

 

[P_Radden]

And Land has two rides, and DinoLand has three...

DHS

1. RnRC
2. Tower
3. TSMM
4. Star Tours
5. Slinky (2018)
6. Saucers (2018)
7. Falcon (2019)
8. Alcatraz (2019)
9. Mickey (2019)

Epcot

1. SSE
2. Space (A & B)
3. Test track
4. Imag
5. Land: Soarin'
6. Land: Living with
7. Seas
8. Mexico
9. Frozenstrom
10. Ratatouille (2020)
11. Poppins (2020) {edit: changed from 2021}
12. Energy (2021)

DAK

1. Flight
2. River
3. Kilimanjaro
4. Kali
5. Everest
6. Primeval
7. Dinosaur
8. Spinner
9. Train

You should add MK to this list

 

[MisterPenguin]

You should add MK to this list

MK

1. Jungle Cruise
2. The Haunted Mansion
3. Tomorrowland Speedway
4. Walt Disney World Railroad
5. Liberty Square River Boat
6. Tom Sawyer Island Raft
7. Pirates of the Caribbean
8. Space Mountain
9. Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress
10. Tomorrowland Transit Authority People Mover
11. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
12. Splash Mountain
13. Astro Orbiter
14. Buzz Light Year Space Ranger Spin
15. Magic Carpets of Aladdin
16. Dumbo the Flying Elephant
17. It's a Small World
18. Mad Tea Party
19. Peter Pan's Flight
20. Prince Charming Regal Carrousel
21. The Barnstormer
22. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
23. Under the Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid
24. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
25. Stitch's Great Escape (seasonal)
26. TRON (2021)

 

[TabulaRasa]

MK

1. Jungle Cruise
2. The Haunted Mansion
3. Tomorrowland Speedway
4. Walt Disney World Railroad
5. Liberty Square River Boat
6. Tom Sawyer Island Raft
7. Pirates of the Caribbean
8. Space Mountain
9. Walt Disney's Carousel of Progress
10. Tomorrowland Transit Authority People Mover
11. Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
12. Astro Orbiter
13. Buzz Light Year Space Ranger Spin
14. Magic Carpets of Aladdin
15. Dumbo the Flying Elephant
16. It's a Small World
17. Mad Tea Party
18. Peter Pan's Flight
19. Prince Charming Regal Carrousel
20. The Barnstormer
21. The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
22. Under the Sea - Journey of the Little Mermaid
23. Seven Dwarfs Mine Train
24. Stitch's Great Escape (seasonal)
25. TRON (2021)

I think you forgot Splash.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I think you forgot Splash.

Ah, yeah, my spreadsheet had it listed just for DL. Correcting...

 

[Minthorne]

Poppins 2020.

I have seen this mentioned before - is there any idea what kind of attraction it may be? I've seen carousel to dark ride speculation. P.S. Thank you for all your insight - from a Disney Park nerd

 

[marni1971]

I have seen this mentioned before - is there any idea what kind of attraction it may be? I've seen carousel to dark ride speculation. P.S. Thank you for all your insight - from a Disney Park nerd

Thank you. I’m trying to nail down the details; as you’ll appreciate this has changed quite a lot. Carousel to small dark ride and everything in between have indeed been pitched.

 

[mikejs78]

Depends how you define “physical ride”

Star tours
Alcatraz
Bird
Slinky
Saucers
Mickey
RnRC
Tower

SSE
Energy
Space
Test track
Imag
Land
Seas
Mexico
Frozenstrom

Flight
River
Kilimanjaro
Kali
Everest
Primeval
Dinosaur

The count is subject to change of course over the coming years

I wasn't counting Energy, because, well, you can't ride it right now - was thinking more what would be in each park when SWL opens. Land also has two, really when you think about it... But looking at the lists that @MisterPenguin put up, Epcot will have a decent # of attractions by 2021. That leaves DHS and AK, which are neck and neck by 2019, but I'd argue that there's a *lot* more to do in AK that isn't rides than in DHS and a lot more room to spread out. AK still needs help, but DHS needs more. My original point was that ride count wasn't going to be too far from what the other parks have once SWL opens.

 

[marni1971]

Two nits- you forgot TSM in DHS, and TS in AK.... I also wasn't counting Energy, because, well, you can't ride it right now - was thinking more what would be in each park when SWL opens. Land also has two, really when you think about it...

Exactly. It’s not a quantifiable measurement.

Best to count attractions.

 

[Clyde Birdbrain]

I've seen carousel to dark ride speculation.

Maybe it’ll be a carousel AND dark ride, like Tony Baxter’s Jolly Holiday concept:

 

[Minthorne]

Maybe it’ll be a carousel AND dark ride, like Tony Baxter’s Jolly Holiday concept:

I'd LOVE this.