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Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Problem with theming floors is the upkeep. You have maint and cms walking through it daily. Not to mention guests if the ride breaks down. Or if someone spills something/gets sick. Easier to hide with just a black floor than painted. Plus being trackless you would be able to see the layout of the vehicles overtime
You’re already able to see the layout of the trackless vehicles. Less openness, which would deal with the sight lines and warehouse feel, would limit the ability to see the ride path.
 

The Aracuan Bird

Well-Known Member
Speaking of twilight, I wonder if a look like this might have helped disguise the ceiling better while still allowing for a whiz-bang transformation of the room:

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I didn't even change the color or brightness of the ceiling, just changed how the other colors are relative to it. Compared to how the room actually looks:

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(It's a quick pass, so don't judge me TOO harshly - squint and you get the idea)
It makes an astronomical difference
 

Jones14

Well-Known Member
Along those lines, has anyone noticed how Goofy, looking out the back of the engine, doesn't fill the opening? The screen is square and the opening has an arch. Every time I see that, it's pretty glaring.
That’s one of those things that looks terrible on video but great in person.

There’s a depth effect from the angle of the seats that I have a hard time explaining, but that square, flat look is not what you see when you’re actually on the ride.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
That’s one of those things that looks terrible on video but great in person.

There’s a depth effect from the angle of the seats that I have a hard time explaining, but that square, flat look is not what you see when you’re actually on the ride.

But part of his head is missing. How is that not noticeable?
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
That’s one of those things that looks terrible on video but great in person.

There’s a depth effect from the angle of the seats that I have a hard time explaining, but that square, flat look is not what you see when you’re actually on the ride.

But part of his head is missing. How is that not noticeable?
As I recall, that's an overhang masking the top of the screen, not the screen just ending leaving an open space.

Though it is true that Goofy isn't "just a screen", as @Jones14 was describing - I think he's on a Transparent LCD screen so he appears to exist on his own plane relative to the rest of the train car. But I don't think they just "forgot" to mask the top of the screen the way that photo seems to suggest. It's just dark, so it looks like an empty space when it's actually a positive one.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Along those lines, has anyone noticed how Goofy, looking out the back of the engine, doesn't fill the opening? The screen is square and the opening has an arch. Every time I see that, it's pretty glaring.

That’s one of those things that looks terrible on video but great in person.

There’s a depth effect from the angle of the seats that I have a hard time explaining, but that square, flat look is not what you see when you’re actually on the ride.
Here's a quick sketch to show what I meant in my post:

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I think there's a Black Border (or at least a dark one) hanging down between Goofy's Screen and the Train Window that blocks the top of the screen. Not especially elegant, but better than simply letting the edge of the screen be visible with negative space above. This is the impression I got while riding in person, anyway.

And as mentioned above, Goofy's screen is Transparent, so you can see through all the spaces that aren't showing Goofy to the deeper interior of the train with the bells and whistles. The train backdrop is on a separate plane from Goofy, which makes a big difference over the whole thing just being a flat screen. Gives you a nice parallax between Goofy and the Backdrop, making him feel like a living cartoon in space.

It would have been nicer if that masking had been incorporated a little more into the design of the train - even something like this Photoshopped image below would make it look a little less like an accident. But I don't think they actually left the top edge of the screen totally visible - it never looked that way in person to me.

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TikibirdLand

Well-Known Member
Here's a quick sketch to show what I meant in my post:

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I think there's a Black Border (or at least a dark one) hanging down between Goofy's Screen and the Train Window that blocks the top of the screen. Not especially elegant, but better than simply letting the edge of the screen be visible with negative space above. This is the impression I got while riding in person, anyway.

And as mentioned above, Goofy's screen is Transparent, so you can see through all the spaces that aren't showing Goofy to the deeper interior of the train with the bells and whistles. The train backdrop is on a separate plane from Goofy, which makes a big difference over the whole thing just being a flat screen. Gives you a nice parallax between Goofy and the Backdrop, making him feel like a living cartoon in space.

It would have been nicer if that masking had been incorporated a little more into the design of the train - even something like the below would make it look a little less like an accident. But I don't think they actually left the top edge of the screen totally visible - it never looked that way in person to me.

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Thanks for attempting to explain it. I'll have to see it in person to see if I agree :) . Still doesn't come off as a shadow in the picture. But, I do see lines that represent slats of some kind. So, they seem to be trying to do something.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Thanks for attempting to explain it. I'll have to see it in person to see if I agree :) . Still doesn't come off as a shadow in the picture. But, I do see lines that represent slats of some kind. So, they seem to be trying to do something.
To be clear, that second image is something I Photoshopped - here's the original to compare it to.

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I don't think it's a shadow, I think there's a solid piece of something installed to block the top of the screen. My Photoshop was to show that if they had made it "part of it" a little more, making it look like part of the train and not just dark masking, perhaps there would be less confusion.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Here's a quick sketch to show what I meant in my post:

View attachment 555507

I think there's a Black Border (or at least a dark one) hanging down between Goofy's Screen and the Train Window that blocks the top of the screen. Not especially elegant, but better than simply letting the edge of the screen be visible with negative space above. This is the impression I got while riding in person, anyway.

And as mentioned above, Goofy's screen is Transparent, so you can see through all the spaces that aren't showing Goofy to the deeper interior of the train with the bells and whistles. The train backdrop is on a separate plane from Goofy, which makes a big difference over the whole thing just being a flat screen. Gives you a nice parallax between Goofy and the Backdrop, making him feel like a living cartoon in space.

It would have been nicer if that masking had been incorporated a little more into the design of the train - even something like this Photoshopped image below would make it look a little less like an accident. But I don't think they actually left the top edge of the screen totally visible - it never looked that way in person to me.

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A far simpler solution would have been to just make the opening a rectangle.
 

DisneyExpert

Well-Known Member
Here's a quick sketch to show what I meant in my post:

View attachment 555507

I think there's a Black Border (or at least a dark one) hanging down between Goofy's Screen and the Train Window that blocks the top of the screen. Not especially elegant, but better than simply letting the edge of the screen be visible with negative space above. This is the impression I got while riding in person, anyway.

And as mentioned above, Goofy's screen is Transparent, so you can see through all the spaces that aren't showing Goofy to the deeper interior of the train with the bells and whistles. The train backdrop is on a separate plane from Goofy, which makes a big difference over the whole thing just being a flat screen. Gives you a nice parallax between Goofy and the Backdrop, making him feel like a living cartoon in space.

It would have been nicer if that masking had been incorporated a little more into the design of the train - even something like this Photoshopped image below would make it look a little less like an accident. But I don't think they actually left the top edge of the screen totally visible - it never looked that way in person to me.

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I agree. I've found this complaint to be largely based on only seeing videos of the ride. There is no single screen that "ends" there, but multiple layered screens acting together to create a 3D illusion, which go pretty far up into the shell of the engine prop. In person, what people are perceiving as the "edge" of the screen comes across pretty clearly as a dimensional prop that is part of the train, which obscures the actual edges of the screens above it.

Honestly, I wish they had used this method of projecting for more of the ride, to give it more of a 3D feel, instead of primarily just projecting stuff onto walls. A similar technique is used in Na'vi River Journey and I think it mostly works very well there.
 
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Jones14

Well-Known Member
I agree. I've found this complaint to be largely based on only seeing videos of the ride. There is no single screen that "ends" there, but multiple layered screens acting together to create a 3D illusion, which go pretty far up into the shell of the engine prop. In person, what people are perceiving as the "edge" of the screen comes across pretty clearly as a dimensional prop that is part of the train, which obscures the actual edges of the screens above it.

Honestly, I wish they had used this method of projecting for more of the ride, to give it more of a 3D feel, instead of primarily just projecting stuff onto walls. A similar technique is used in Na'vi River Journey and I think it mostly works very well there.
Yeah, this is what I mean. It doesn’t read as the edge of the screen in person, it reads as there being an overhang blocking the very top of the cabin from view. Why it’s there I’m not entirely sure, but it doesn’t read as a problem or mistake in person at all. It’s one of the best uses of the tech in the whole ride.
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
I finally got to ride this. Waited 25 minutes.
It's cute.
It's literally the definition of "fine ride, wrong location". It'll fit in perfectly in DL's Toontown and is a really great addition for there. The weird looking Mickey and Minnie AA things look odd in person too. The ride is certainly lacking for being the centerpiece of the park.

And the ceiling surprisingly did bug me (I didn't look at the last few pages since the ceiling discussion came up).
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I'd wait 25 minutes again to do it but would never waste a FP on it.
 

The Aracuan Bird

Well-Known Member
If there was any single IP to replace The Movie Ride, it was Mickey. I totally believe the Mouse can fit well in that space. But it should’ve been the Mickey that was a Hollywood star; the one that paved the way for things to come. Not the TV show that loosely emulates the old Mickey on a tighter budget. At least it’s not the plastic Clubhouse Mickey.
 

yensidtlaw1969

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
I finally got to ride this. Waited 25 minutes.
It's cute.
It's literally the definition of "fine ride, wrong location". It'll fit in perfectly in DL's Toontown and is a really great addition for there. The weird looking Mickey and Minnie AA things look odd in person too. The ride is certainly lacking for being the centerpiece of the park.

And the ceiling surprisingly did bug me (I didn't look at the last few pages since the ceiling discussion came up).
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I'd wait 25 minutes again to do it but would never waste a FP on it.
Speaking of the Ceiling . . . Could you imagine?:

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Thanks, Photoshop!
 

disneygeek90

Premium Member
There were 1 2 3 4 5 6 stickers on the floor in the preshow area today that the staff wasn’t using. Not sure why they couldn’t do what they do on ROTR preshow but maybe the room is just that small.
I may be making this up but I thought they wouldn't be able to keep the loading room full if they only fed preshows in with so few groups.
 

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