Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway confirmed

ToTBellHop

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This is it, in a nutshell. If you don’t ever have plans to visit and resort other than WDW, then of course clones are no big deal. Many people travel to the other Disney resorts too, and it makes sense that these people would want to see unique attractions (for the most part) at all of them. I don’t see what’s so bad about holding that opinion.
Well, cloning cuts costs so we get more rides. If not for the availability of clones, we’d have no Mine Train or Rat. They were literally chosen as they could be easily cloned to keep budget under control.
 

phillip9698

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An extra $100m could have completely redid GMR and built MMRR elsewhere. Pennies compared to what they’ll spend to add yet another E-ticket when they inevitably determine the park needs more.

I see what you are saying but 100 million is not pennies compared to any other park spending venture.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Well, cloning cuts costs so we get more rides. If not for the availability of clones, we’d have no Mine Train or Rat. They were literally chosen as they could be easily cloned to keep budget under control.

Indeed, there are conflicting desires among the fan base:

People say Disney is too expensive and then want Disney to build one-of-a-kind top-tier attractions for each park. That's going to drive up cost, and then ticket prices.

People say DL and MK are too crowded and so Disney should build another Disneyland elsewhere (Texas, Australia, Brazil). But that only works to alleviate crowds at MK and DL if the new Disneylands are clones. If DL and MK have unique attractions not cloned elsewhere, well, then, the whole world will have to come to DL and MK to experience their unique attractions, and not just those who are in the global region.

Not to mention that good ol' Walt was the original clonemaster building MK as a clone of DL. Epcot was unique only because the corporation decided to do something unique with a theme park after Walt died. Walt's EPCOT was not a theme park.

I'm of the opinion that if you want a unique attraction, then put it in a unique park, like Tokyo did for DisneySea, or for what WDW did for Epcot and DAK. People should travel the world for a unique theme park, not for just one or two unique attractions.

Of course, this is a moot point right now as the billions of dollars being dumped into the international parks is to add whole new thematic lands which are going to be cloned elsewhere.

The bright spot for those who want one-of-a-kind attractions is that the Marvel Lands will have unique attractions. Tho, I'd bet money that in their phase 2s, they'll just start cloning the best attractions of one another.
 

ToTBellHop

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I see what you are saying but 100 million is not pennies compared to any other park spending venture.
To you or me, it’s a lot. Relative to GotG or TRON, it’s pennies. Any new E ticket for DHS would likely cost $200 million or more. That’s extremely inefficient use of money. And it saddens me to see them burn through all this money being offered so quickly with full knowledge that this kind of spending won’t last forever.
 

phillip9698

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To you or me, it’s a lot. Relative to GotG or TRON, it’s pennies. Any new E ticket for DHS would likely cost $200 million or more. That’s extremely inefficient use of money. And it saddens me to see them burn through all this money being offered so quickly with full knowledge that this kind of spending won’t last forever.

100 million compared to 200 or even 500 million isn't pennies. That's not the analogy to use here.
 

Surferboy567

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I get that the conversation is on budget right now however...I just was watching YouTube and a video gave me an idea if MMRR is supposed to open before galaxy’s edge (soon) shouldn’t they be announcing the opening date/details soon (or should of announced it already) to drive crowds BEFORE galaxy’s edge...of course maybe it doesn’t open before galaxy’s edge (which I find unlikely) thoughts?
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I get that the conversation is on budget right now however...I just was watching YouTube and a video gave me an idea if MMRR is supposed to open before galaxy’s edge (soon) shouldn’t they be announcing the opening date/details soon (or should of announced it already) to drive crowds BEFORE galaxy’s edge...of course maybe it doesn’t open before galaxy’s edge (which I find unlikely) thoughts?

I would assume they don't want to commit to an opening date yet until they know for sure when it could open. This allows them to announce an opening for it all the way up to Aug 28, if they need to.
 

ToTBellHop

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Maybe but it’s not guaranteed we will get more. I think sometimes people want Disney to add cheap attractions like Six Flags every year just for ride count purposes.
You are likening my suggestion that “Disney cloning Ratatouille or building MMRR elsewhere is okay” is the same as suggesting they should build Six Flags rides?

It’s very simple and is head-scratching that people can’t understand this: only so much money will be released to the parks. This is obvious. If they only build $300 million rides, the bean counters are more reluctant to release the purse strings.

Enough with this nonsense.

MMRR should open before SWGE. SWGE is obviously a bigger deal and got announced first. However, note that they did a combined announcement for DL and DHS. The announcement was necessary as the land opens in DL in less than 3 months. There’s no real need to announce MMRR’s opening this far out. It’s somewhat unique for Disney to commit to a date for our SWGE this far out.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
You are likening my suggestion that “Disney cloning Ratatouille or building MMRR elsewhere is okay” is the same as suggesting they should build Six Flags rides?

It’s very simple and is head-scratching that people can’t understand this: only so much money will be released to the parks. This is obvious. If they only build $300 million rides, the bean counters are more reluctant to release the purse strings.

Enough with this nonsense.

MMRR should open before SWGE. SWGE is obviously a bigger deal and got announced first. However, note that they did a combined announcement for DL and DHS. The announcement was necessary as the land opens in DL in less than 3 months. There’s no real need to announce MMRR’s opening this far out. It’s somewhat unique for Disney to commit to a date for our SWGE this far out.
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
I get that the conversation is on budget right now however...I just was watching YouTube and a video gave me an idea if MMRR is supposed to open before galaxy’s edge (soon) shouldn’t they be announcing the opening date/details soon (or should of announced it already) to drive crowds BEFORE galaxy’s edge...of course maybe it doesn’t open before galaxy’s edge (which I find unlikely) thoughts?

I don't think this ride is going to be enough to drive big crowds with Galaxy's Edge coming later in the year. I expect that they want to have it open by the time GE opens to give people something else to do in what is going to be a very crowded park. GE was announced much earlier then normal, recently new ride openings have been announced around 60 days before opening.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
I don't think this ride is going to be enough to drive big crowds with Galaxy's Edge coming later in the year. I expect that they want to have it open by the time GE opens to give people something else to do in what is going to be a very crowded park. GE was announced much earlier then normal, recently new ride openings have been announced around 60 days before opening.
Yes. Which is why this was announced. They couldn’t give a date for DL but not DHS. My understanding is 8/29 was conservative, as you could imagine this far out (no more egg on their faces missing a deadline like Rivers of Nothing). Previews throughout much of August are likely with MMRR open at the same time.
 

Surferboy567

Well-Known Member
Yes. Which is why this was announced. They couldn’t give a date for DL but not DHS. My understanding is 8/29 was conservative, as you could imagine this far out (no more egg on their faces missing a deadline like Rivers of Nothing). Previews throughout much of August are likely with MMRR open at the same time.

Never heard that one before Rivers of nothing...lol now that you mention it nothing does happen...pretty straight and into the point description
 

Rogue1138

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I don't think this ride is going to be enough to drive big crowds with Galaxy's Edge coming later in the year. I expect that they want to have it open by the time GE opens to give people something else to do in what is going to be a very crowded park. GE was announced much earlier then normal, recently new ride openings have been announced around 60 days before opening.

I could be absolutely wrong but I doubt Disney will care initially if MMRR is open or not when GE opens. It's not going to drive people away from those first few weeks (months?) of making GE their destination. MMRR really will be the most effective after the initial hype dies down to spread guests out around the park so why rush it to have very little effect.
 

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