Let's hope so. Real competition is only better for the consumer, not worse.
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Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland
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Let's hope so. Real competition is only better for the consumer, not worse.
Californian Elitist
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If you continuously compare the two, you’re most likely going to be continuously disappointed in one. Question, do you compare Back to the Future to Pirates of the Caribbean? Or do you sit back and enjoy the films?
I didn’t say you said people don’t enjoy Universal. I was simply speaking of my experience.
DisneyLostBoy03
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For a few years, I have been known as a Toy Box Master Artist for the video game Disney Infinity before it got cancelled. I mostly recreate Disney parks attractions inside of the game and they would receive positive feedback. So, I have decided to dust off the game and start building an elaborate what-if recreation of Disneyland's version of Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway. The facade in this image is my take on a Toontown movie theater which would serve the purpose as the entrance to the attraction. I will be posting my progress on the Youtube Channel Disney Lost Boys and Girls if you would like to follow along on how I build this ride while using Disney Infinity as well as other tricks. Hope you all enjoy. 
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Disney Irish
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For a few years, I have been known as a Toy Box Master Artist for the video game Disney Infinity before it got cancelled. I mostly recreate Disney parks attractions inside of the game and they would receive positive feedback. So, I have decided to dust off the game and start building an elaborate what-if recreation of Disneyland's version of Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway. The facade in this image is my take on a Toontown movie theater which would serve the purpose as the entrance to the attraction. I will be posting my progress on the Youtube Channel Disney Lost Boys and Girls if you would like to follow along on how I build this ride while using Disney Infinity as well as other tricks. Hope you all enjoy.
Can you make it look more cartoony? I just would expect a TT facade to look more cartoony, but otherwise good job!
DisneyLostBoy03
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I can do my best. It is still in the works, so of course things can change. Thank you for enjoying my work.
Expect it to see progress on it on the Disney Lost Boys and Girls channel. I posted other works up there as well like Peter Pan's Flight, Alice in Wonderland and Guardians of the Galaxy.
I don't disagree but that's just human nature. It's done everywhere with everything, ESPECIALLY on the internet. MCU vs DCEU. Star Trek vs Star Wars. Apple Vs. Samsung. L.A. vs N.Y. If it's part of popular culture and seen as a rivalry, people will just compare it.
That's just the way it is. That said I'm guessing most people judge things separately or just enjoy it all but on the internet everything is turned into a competition. Even within Disney theme parks themselves when I'm guessing in the real world most people generally enjoy it all.
As for Universal, it's popularity has certainly gone up in recent years, certainly in Orlando, but I don't think it will ever get to the level of a Disney park even if I think a park like IOA is actually better than some of Disney's second gate parks because Disney theme parks are too ingrained into the culture. For many going to a Disney park is seen as a once in a lifetime experience many of us take for granted having been so many times.. As for USH, its main issue is it's still not really a full day park decades later like the way DL and even DCA is now. There is nothing to really keep you there past sun down if you go in the morning and why it closes so early most of the year. And when one day prices are nearly the same and you have to decide where to take your family its hard not to compare what is the better value.
Sharon&Susan
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I hope they do a full remodel of Toontown or at least rename it. It feels more like Tex Avery's Toontown or Roger Rabbit's Toontown than Mickey's Toontown.
Travel Junkie
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Inside Universal usually has the best insight on those parks. They are on record as saying Japan will be first (already under construction), USH will be 1st in the U.S. but also the smallest and USO will the last but have the biggest overall presence in the parks.
Kram Sacul
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Nah, It's Mickey's Toontown. The Toontown from the Roger Rabbit film would've been way cooler, edgier and featured characters from different studios, not just Disney.
TP2000
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What that picture is great at showing is just how two-dimensional and basic the back of house areas behind Disneyland are. There is TONS of space there to use for park expansion. Those existing buildings behind Toontown are all just pre-fab warehouse buildings and cheap offices that could be moved anywhere, and replaced with multi-level structures that house infrastructure and support services underground, with park rides and facilities above ground for several floors, topped by thematic elements that hide everything.
As it stands now, the back of house areas of Disneyland are just Anytown USA industrial buildings that were cheap and easy to build in the 1970's, 80's and 90's. No one back then gave any thought to park expansion there, except to admit that the warehouses were cheap and would be inexpensive to tear down in the exotic future of the 21st century.
I'm reminded how amazingly efficient they build Disney theme parks in Tokyo, with major attractions and even entire lands housed in complex structures that overlap onto each other. There's big potential with the space directly north of Toontown and Small World, removing those cheap warehouses and booting those cubicle farms off property somewhere. Go big, go Tokyo DisneySea style! Use every square foot you have for multi-level show facilities and park space!
Back in Anaheim, move all the boring middle managers in their saggy-butt Dockers and all the basic cubicle dwellers off property into some beige, bland cubicle farm elsewhere. Those low-level white collar folks can spend their days perfecting their TPS Reports and planning their next Starbucks run or decorating the conference room for Ashley's baby shower. Leave the valuable acreage north of Disneyland to the legitimate business of putting on the Disneyland USA show, and take your boring cubicle life elsewhere.
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Travel Junkie
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Move TDA off site and you have so much more room. Without knowing structurally how much you can actually gut it, the shell of the TDA building looks like a mighty fine show building.
lazyboy97o
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The problem with moving offices off-site is just that, they are further removed from the actual focus of their work.
Sharon&Susan
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Neither would Mickey Mouse’s Toontown be drawn in such a way, that it’d be absurdly cartoonish. The backgrounds of the Disney shorts weren’t crazy or insane.
mickEblu
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Yeah it’s definitely Roger Rabbits Toontown stylistically but they decided to market it as “Mickeys Toontown” and include majority Fab 5 content because it’s Disneyland and the history/ longevity of those characters. Then oddly enough they gave a ride to one single Disney afternoon character.
Everything was exaggerated in Toontown in Who Framed Roger Rabbit to show how crazy and different it was from the real world. That carried over into “Mickeys Toontown.” Oddly enough I’ve never once walked through that land and made the association with the movie on a conscious level outside of riding RRCTS.
Like Disney should develop all their unused land in the resort district and there’s a ton of available land just waiting for development plans.
__r.jr
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Blame Michael Eisner. Due to the high success of Who Framed Roger Rabbit he wanted Mickey's Toontown in Disneyland to emulate precisely how it was portrayed in the film. To get a better understanding on why Mickey's Toontown is the way it is I recommend this wonderful article, specifically the first quarter of the passage in regards to the topic at hand, Passport to Dreams: Lightning in a Bottle? Storybook Circus.
Ismael Flores
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I will never understand why TDA does not request WDI to design lands and attractions that utilize the land better.
I still think that they wasted lots of opportunities to add in house backstage facilities in some of the last large projects. Carsland mountain range has areas which i think would have made great places for in house facilities.
The most recent addition that has areas that could have been used for backstage infrastructure is SWGE. I still believe that the huge mounds of soil that were placed for the railroad track between the Frontierland entrance and Fantasyland entrance could have been replaced with a building. They could have done the same thing they did for the Fantasmic show building. There is plenty of room there for a building that could have been turned into an eatery or for just backstage use.
