Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

[Phroobar]

"Disneyland seems to have more space" is a phrase I never thought I'd hear.

Disneyland's Galaxy Edge is bigger.

 

[Phroobar]

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One is my biggest gripes about WDW. So much space, not much creativity due to it. More-so MK & Epcot. I love that within a few years DLR will have 5 new rides and only losing one attraction. (MFSR, ROTR, Spider-Man, Mickey, and soon The Avengers for It’s Tough to be a Bug). Can’t say the same for the “bigger park.” It’s quite incredible when comparing size.

This ride is going to bring the much needed life in Toontown as well. I haven’t seen videos of the ride yet but I know this is great for a dying land of the park. All that’s left is Tomorrowland soon!

Actually it is an even swap. We lost a Bug's Land which had four rides. We only gained one with Mood Swings.

 

[mickEblu]

Actually it is an even swap. We lost a Bug's Land which had four rides. We only gained one with Mood Swings.

1**

** worth a damn

 

[PiratesMansion]

Even if the Avengers AREA isn't as nice as a Bugs Land, the new attraction(s) would have to be pretty terrible to be WORSE than the ones in Bugs Land.

Of the attractions that left Bugs Land, MAYBE two of them were worth anything.

 

[Disney Irish]

You know I know that we tend to blur the lines with threads here on the Disneyland side of the forums. But why are we talking about Avengers Campus/Former Bugs Land area which is in DCA in the thread about MMRR which will be in Disneyland?

Take it over to the Avengers Campus thread....

 

[Ismael Flores]

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One is my biggest gripes about WDW. So much space, not much creativity due to it. More-so MK & Epcot. I love that within a few years DLR will have 5 new rides and only losing one attraction. (MFSR, ROTR, Spider-Man, Mickey, and soon The Avengers for It’s Tough to be a Bug). Can’t say the same for the “bigger park.” It’s quite incredible when comparing size.

This ride is going to bring the much needed life in Toontown as well. I haven’t seen videos of the ride yet but I know this is great for a dying land of the park. All that’s left is Tomorrowland soon!

The lack of thought and expansion in WDW sometimes confuses me. One of the things that i could not understand when the fantasyland expansion was designed was why they needed to cramp everything together. Why not just expand the land a bit further up near the railroad tracks. the small pond could have been pushed west and the backstage road re-aligned.
would have given them more room to expand and properly create a Beauty and the Beast area and then maybe eventually allowed them to connect this area with a nice wooden pathway behind the rivers of America that would connect to Frontierland.

 

[Disney Irish]

The lack of thought and expansion in WDW sometimes confuses me. One of the things that i could not understand when the fantasyland expansion was designed was why they needed to cramp everything together. Why not just expand the land a bit further up near the railroad tracks. the small pond could have been pushed west and the backstage road re-aligned.
would have given them more room to expand and properly create a Beauty and the Beast area and then maybe eventually allowed them to connect this area with a nice wooden pathway behind the rivers of America that would connect to Frontierland.View attachment 471859

Not that we need to continue this WDW discussion in the Disneyland side of things. But while I don't know if its true, I've always heard that Disney has to maintain a certain amount of the natural wetlands in Florida. So for every acre they use for the theme parks they must reclaim an acre and turn it back into wetlands. It would explain why they keep buying up land in the surrounding areas when they expand the theme parks.

 

[PiratesMansion]

Not that we need to continue this WDW discussion in the Disneyland side of things. But while I don't know if its true, I've always heard that Disney has to maintain a certain amount of the natural wetlands in Florida. So for every acre they use for the theme parks they must reclaim an acre and turn it back into wetlands. It would explain why they keep buying up land in the surrounding areas when they expand the theme parks.

They do have to maintain a certain percentage as wetlands, but I'm fairly certain it's not a 1:1 ratio. I'm sure someone out there knows the exact ratio.

They could also be buying land as it becomes available as a buffer, or just in case they decide (lol) to build that 5th gate.

 

[Disney Irish]

They do have to maintain a certain percentage as wetlands, but I'm fairly certain it's not a 1:1 ratio. I'm sure someone out there knows the exact ratio.

They could also be buying land as it becomes available as a buffer, or just in case they decide (lol) to build that 5th gate.

Yeah I wouldn't bet on the 5th gate in our life times. Anaheim will get a 3rd gate long before WDW gets a 5th.

As for the 1:1 ratio, it was just what I heard. Obviously it could be wrong. But it would explain why they aren't expanding outward and maintaining relatively the same footprint of the parks.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

What I don't get is why the "new" FL is separated by a huge open area of concrete. They seem to like separating these new areas with wasted space, like SW land. Yet, the bbq and Snow White rides, for instance, had to go.

 

[Disneylover152]

Yeah I wouldn't bet on the 5th gate in our life times. Anaheim will get a 3rd gate long before WDW gets a 5th.

As for the 1:1 ratio, it was just what I heard. Obviously it could be wrong. But it would explain why they aren't expanding outward and maintaining relatively the same footprint of the parks.

Not sure if this helps you with figuring this out, but I found this online. Not sure if it means anything in this instance.

 

[Disney Irish]

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Not sure if this helps you with figuring this out, but I found this online. Not sure if it means anything in this instance.

Doesn't mean much for this conversation, but thanks. It does tell us that Disney has a crap ton of area reserved for conservation. Also this is outdated because I think they just bought more land in plot 9 if I have the area correct.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Walt Disney bought more land than they'd ever need. I think he's gotten a pretty good return on that investment.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Not that we need to continue this WDW discussion in the Disneyland side of things. But while I don't know if its true, I've always heard that Disney has to maintain a certain amount of the natural wetlands in Florida. So for every acre they use for the theme parks they must reclaim an acre and turn it back into wetlands. It would explain why they keep buying up land in the surrounding areas when they expand the theme parks.

The conservation areas are not in the parks and some are not even at Walt Disney World.

 

[Disney Irish]

The conservation areas are not in the parks and some are not even at Walt Disney World.

No one ever said they were.

 

[lazyboy97o]

No one ever said they were.

Building in the existing parks does not require more conservation land. The conservation land is completely separate from the land for development that includes the parks. Conservation land can be changed to development land but it can then just be set aside for years if desired.

 

[Disney Irish]

Building in the existing parks does not require more conservation land. The conservation land is completely separate from the land for development that includes the parks. Conservation land can be changed to development land but it can then just be set aside for years if desired.

If you say so. Like I said it was what I heard, and I already stated it could be wrong.

 

[Little Green Men]

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One is my biggest gripes about WDW. So much space, not much creativity due to it. More-so MK & Epcot. I love that within a few years DLR will have 5 new rides and only losing one attraction. (MFSR, ROTR, Spider-Man, Mickey, and soon The Avengers for It’s Tough to be a Bug). Can’t say the same for the “bigger park.” It’s quite incredible when comparing size.

This ride is going to bring the much needed life in Toontown as well. I haven’t seen videos of the ride yet but I know this is great for a dying land of the park. All that’s left is Tomorrowland soon!

Actually it is an even swap. We lost a Bug's Land which had four rides. We only gained one with Mood Swings.

Also to be fair DHS traded one ride for four new ones in its place, while Epcot and MK each are gaining a new ride replacing nothing

 

[Californian Elitist]

The ride count between the two is comical at this point. The fact that a ride was gutted for this attraction in Florida and no ride was torn down in California for the same attraction is ironic and hysterical.

You gotta laugh at that and/or scratch your head.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

The ride count between the two is comical at this point. The fact that a ride was gutted for this attraction in Florida and no ride was torn down in California for the same attraction is ironic and hysterical.

You gotta laugh at that and/or scratch your head.

and not just any ride, they tore out the flagship E ticket ride of the park.