Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

SuddenStorm

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Also, tell me more about how Galaxy's Edge and recreating a boardwalk pier amusement park (which Walt HATED) is FULL OF SOUL. 🙄

Can't you just enjoy the good parts every park in the world has to offer and stop this weird competition of which one is better and shoving the ORIGINAL down our throats? We're not in the 60's anymore.

I don't think a single person on this forum would argue that Galaxy's Edge and Pixar Pier are quality additions to the Anaheim Resort.

It's also a bit disingenuous to use them as your examples for why we shouldn't respect and love the original Disneyland (which is still the best Disney park)
 

Phroobar

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If I want to contract the coronavirus, it’s my American right!!!
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1HAPPYGHOSTHOST

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I don't think a single person on this forum would argue that Galaxy's Edge and Pixar Pier are quality additions to the Anaheim Resort.

It's also a bit disingenuous to use them as your examples for why we shouldn't respect and love the original Disneyland (which is still the best Disney park)
I'm your Huckleberry. Pixar Pier is a waste of space. and Galaxy's Edge is lifeless and should have been built around the original trilogy.
 

DavidDL

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I don't think a single person on this forum would argue that Galaxy's Edge and Pixar Pier are quality additions to the Anaheim Resort.

It's also a bit disingenuous to use them as your examples for why we shouldn't respect and love the original Disneyland (which is still the best Disney park)

I'll get jumped on for saying this but the wife and I would absolutely argue in favor of Galaxy's Edge, so that's one crazy forum member (one of our absolute favorite parts of the resort)! :p I know I'd never win that argument around here cuz' folks are gonna like what they like and hate what they hate regardless of how others feel.

Now, before the inevitable stream of hate comes my way, let me try to get a bit of redemption by saying that I also dislike Pixar Pier. I hated it when it was announced but I gave it a fair shot and tried to go in and enjoy myself. Obviously, I enjoyed my time in the park as a whole but I felt the execution of Pixar Pier was frustrating. Frustrating because there was actually a little bit of charm that I could feel in the area. Bits and pieces of it were actually quite nice but there was just to much to dislike overall that brought it way down. In other words, I can see why the idea had some promise in someone's mind or heart.. but what we ended up with is just a mess.
 

PiratesMansion

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I can see why the idea had some promise in someone's mind or heart.. but what we ended up with is just a mess.

I don't know that I agree unless we add "monetary" or "financial" or "branding" in front of promise. No one who genuinely cared about the parks and understood them would champion such a blatantly hacky area.

But even in Disney's glorified commercial Fairy Tale Weddings I thought it was funny and telling that the couple that got married at Pixar Pier DID NOT take the time to talk up how wonderful and glorious and "Disney" Pixar Pier was.

I felt so bad for those people. Granted, the people in the show were comped and undoubtedly bit the bullet because weddings are expensive, but still. Yeesh.
 
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DavidDL

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I don't know that I agree unless we add "monetary" or "financial" or "branding" in front of promise. No one who genuinely cared about the parks and understood them would champion such a blatantly hacky area.

But even in Disney's glorified commercial Fairy Tale Weddings I thought it was funny and telling that the couple that got married at Pixar Pier DID NOT take the time to talk up how wonderful and glorious and "Disney" Pixar Pier was.

I felt bad so for those people. Granted, the people in the show were comped and undoubtedly bit the bullet because weddings are expensive, but still. Yeesh.

Sorry, I should have been more specific or worded my feelings better. I agree that the concept of slapping IP onto a land like Paradise Pier definitely rings of financial/branding motive. That's why I was so upset when it was announced (I got the info on my phone while at a museum with my wife and I was so distraught that I had a hard time enjoying the rest of my time there).

What I probably should have said, is that while standing in certain areas of Pixar Pier, I could tell that there were some ideas that were working or were at least fun/charming enough that I was able to forget the motive(s) behind its construction. This is probably due largely in part to some very talented artists working behind the scenes who were doing their absolute best to make the ideas of whichever exec pushed the idea on them work. I could tell that there was some genuine love poured into small areas from the artists and construction teams that designed and built it, which means it would've been technically possible for the idea to work on the whole with some better overall choices coming from up top. But these teams probably had their hands tied to a degree by the concepts mandated from higher up and could only do so much.

To be clear, I'm not defending Pixar Pier. I think it's awful and it turned one of my favorite attractions from a "must do" to a "must avoid". I definitely don't think the area works right now. All I'm saying is that there were rare instances in the land that made me say, "This COULD have worked if they had done a better job or given this more time/money". Obviously the motive behind it's creation was corporate synergy and while I won't immediately fault a for profit company for doing that, I WILL fault them for making it so obvious. If it had been done well, the reason behind it's construction wouldn't matter as much to folks. Which is why it's so frustrating to me. But that's just my personal opinion.
 
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smooch

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Yes, yes, yes.

I had always admired Rome’s Colosseum from photos and videos, but it literally took my breath away when I saw it in person.

No comparison.

Two years ago my family went to Rome and Czech for the summer and it was my first time out of the country and I was blown away but so many landmarks but the scale of the Colosseum was absolutely incredible along with the Pantheon. Czech was fun in a different way, we visited the village my mom lived in until she fled the country at 8 to escape the communist takeovers and seeing it in person was incredibly surreal. We had always heard my mother and her family talk about the little town they lived in but seeing it in person was genuinely life changing for me, it was really humbling in a way seeing the small extremely rural town my mother came from when we now live in a pretty nice area outside Sacramento, all the way across the globe.
 

Californian Elitist

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Two years ago my family went to Rome and Czech for the summer and it was my first time out of the country and I was blown away but so many landmarks but the scale of the Colosseum was absolutely incredible along with the Pantheon. Czech was fun in a different way, we visited the village my mom lived in until she fled the country at 8 to escape the communist takeovers and seeing it in person was incredibly surreal. We had always heard my mother and her family talk about the little town they lived in but seeing it in person was genuinely life changing for me, it was really humbling in a way seeing the small extremely rural town my mother came from when we now live in a pretty nice area outside Sacramento, all the way across the globe.

The Pantheon was also stunning! I was most looking forward to seeing the Colosseum because of my obsession with it (dad took me to see Gladiator when it first released and I became obsessed then), but I was most impressed with Palatine Hill and the Roman Forum. Holy cow. The amazing thing about Rome is you can be walking by a typical, European structure, then turn the corner and find a ruin. Amazing.

That’s so cool to hear about your experiences in The Czech Republic. I wish I could track my family’s countries of origin like that. The Czech Republic is on my list of places I’d like to travel to.

Although I miss Disneyland and wish it wasn’t closed due to these circumstances, I’m at a point in my life where it’s no longer a priority for me. My money is now going to travel, both nationally and internationally, but mostly internationally. The world is huge and I want to see it.
 

George Lucas on a Bench

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Pixar Pier was obviously slapped together, but I also wouldn't say GE isn't a quality addition. While it's bafflingly boring and has one ride that tends to be mostly a disappointment, it also has one ride a lot of people enjoy. It is also very intensely decorated and scenic, even if the scenery is like a depressing desert village. It also has potential for improvement. There's not much you can do with something like Pixar Pier. The added scenery like the giant happy meal box and slapped-in Incredibles signs and static mannequins are all cheap and gaudy looking. The spinning baby ride is obviously a cheap addition. There's not much you can do without a bulldozer.

Star Wars wasn't money perfectly spent, but it was money spent.
 

Ismael Flores

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smooch

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The Pantheon was also stunning! I was most looking forward to seeing the Colosseum because of my obsession with it (dad took me to see Gladiator when it first released and I became obsessed then), but I was most impressed with Palatine Hill and the Roman Forum. Holy cow. The amazing thing about Rome is you can be walking by a typical, European structure, then turn the corner and find a ruin. Amazing.

That’s so cool to hear about your experiences in The Czech Republic. I wish I could track my family’s countries of origin like that. The Czech Republic is on my list of places I’d like to travel to.

Although I miss Disneyland and wish it wasn’t closed due to these circumstances, I’m at a point in my life where it’s no longer a priority for me. My money is now going to travel, both nationally and internationally, but mostly internationally. The world is huge and I want to see it.

Prague Castle was absolutely beautiful. You can climb to the top and get a beautiful view but that requires scaling a massive 287 step tight spiral staircase which was pretty tiring especially after already exploring on foot the rest of the day prior. There are multiple buildings to go up and see the view of the city from above and I recommend them 100% if you are physically capable, the views are amazing. The Old Town Square was beautiful as well but there was some construction going on there along with the National Museum in Prague so we did not get to stay there. Fun fact, we actually stayed in the hotel they filmed in for Spider-Man: Far From Home, at least the lobby portions. It was absolutely stunning and it was really funny when I was watching in theaters with my girlfriend and she and I realized at the same time when we saw the initial shot of the lobby! I would definitely recommend trying to get out of Prague and into more rural areas, probably not areas like my mom's village where I went (Milin) because these areas have literally no tourists and they are very tight knit communities, but I would definitely recommend being able to speak English because I noticed even in Prague there were a large amount of people who did not know English and if we didn't have my mom / our extended family to translate we would have been lost. Also look out for thieves as you should in any city, we were getting out of our rental right in front of our very nice hotel in the middle of Prague and when we were about to go inside we noticed around 4 people start to surround us and my mom cursed them out / called them out in Czech and called the hotel staff and they all tried to run away and one tried to just hide behind a bush in front of the hotel, obviously this is not unique to Czech I just found it interesting they had the idea to try this in plain view of hotel security. Also the food there is so delicious and so is Czech beer, I have grown up with Czech cooking so not a lot was new to me but we went to a beer garden with pig knuckle that was absolutely incredible.

I also agree that seeing ruins around a corner from a modern city was amazing, it was such a strange but beautiful transition walking along a city and turning a corner and seeing the Forum. I also loved touring The Vatican, we spent hours in there and there was so much to see that we didn't even see all of it on a very long, multiple hour long tour. We did a private tour rather than a group tour and it was so nice having our guide adjust the tour to our own pace and what we wanted to see. I know we have gotten pretty off topic but these trips were amazing and I am so glad to have gone on them I feel truly blessed to have been able to go to these places and learn about their rich histories and to see the world from a new lens. It's one thing to see these places in pictures and in movies, but to actually be immersed there it is a life changing experience. Italy was also really fun because I had gotten in to making homemade pasta from scratch and I had fun trying all the different recipes and comparing them to what I have made. I got a serving of some basic cacio e pepe from a restaurant that served it in a baked Parmesan bowl and that was really fun to go home and experiment with making to serve any pasta dish in for a fancy occasion to show off a little. I definitely enjoy food a lot and it is really cool to take these recipes and methods from different cultures and try to recreate them and integrate them into your own cooking in small ways.
 

socalifornian

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that is quite a large piece of property, I wonder how much of that will actually be ride space, queue space and then possibly back of house space.

Someone mentioned that part of the backstage road looked like it was excavated behind Mickeys house but could that just be soil that is pushed around by work vehicles as they enter and exit work site?
That’s a good point. I’m not quite sure where the old GMR show building ends but Disneyland seems to have more space no matter the scenario
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TP2000

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That’s a good point. I’m not quite sure where the old GMR show building ends but Disneyland seems to have more space no matter the scenario
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Funny how that works, isn't it?

"Disneyland seems to have more space" is a phrase I never thought I'd hear.

It happens all the time. Especially for the big important E Tickets like Pirates, Small World, Indy, Star Wars Land, etc.

Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway is just the latest example.

Of course, they could have more space at the WDW parks. But that would require more money spent on the actual theme parks, and less money spent on the cubicle armies of Celebration.
 

BubbaisSleep

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Funny how that works, isn't it?



It happens all the time. Especially for the big important E Tickets like Pirates, Small World, Indy, Star Wars Land, etc.

Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway is just the latest example.

Of course, they could have more space at the WDW parks. But that would require more money spent on the actual theme parks, and less money spent on the cubicle armies of Celebration.
One is my biggest gripes about WDW. So much space, not much creativity due to it. More-so MK & Epcot. I love that within a few years DLR will have 5 new rides and only losing one attraction. (MFSR, ROTR, Spider-Man, Mickey, and soon The Avengers for It’s Tough to be a Bug). Can’t say the same for the “bigger park.” It’s quite incredible when comparing size.

This ride is going to bring the much needed life in Toontown as well. I haven’t seen videos of the ride yet but I know this is great for a dying land of the park. All that’s left is Tomorrowland soon!
 

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