Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

MoonRakerSCM

Well-Known Member
Did they fix it yet or no? I'm confused lol.
When the ride first opened, Goofy looked more directly to the left (thought Mickey and Minnie are on the right in this version). They've now adjusted the animation and Goofy looks forward, but still to the left.
The angles are a bit hard to tell, but seemingly if they mirrored the animation the way it is now, it may be just right.
 

celluloid

Well-Known Member
I don't like the way they do the big impact moment in this version... I haven't seen any comments on it. The factory transformation to the park is not as impactful here vs. WDW and ruins the effect imo. In WDW , all the factory equipment fold up into tree triangles. Ours do not and kinda lazily wobble into a kind of a trapezoid. It's hard to notice if you haven't seen the original, but for me that moment is truly a big wow moment, with the angular transformation adding to the illusion and they've ruined it here in DL...

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DL trees-
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I noticed this too. The WDW version was the most neat transformation moment when I first rode.

The DL ones are too prominent. the WDW ones go from a main feature to a subtle set of trees.
 

MoonRakerSCM

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I was blown away with the physical transformation the first time I saw it. Then was still befuddled when I rode it a second time. There are big blocky factories, then woosh they're gone before you realize it and suddenly little pine trees everywhere. The animation changes but having that physical transformation really put it over the top.

I haven't been on the DL version yet but will see how it goes when I get on it.
 

Disney Analyst

Well-Known Member
I have to assume Disney decided to create something more robust. The factory scene at DHS uses fabric with two sticks that fold the fabric in, to create the change from factory to trees.

I have to assume they looked at the wear and tear and decided to try out a different, more solid approach.

Now the trees are done with what appears to be more solid panels, which sort of slide together / down to create the tree shape.

It still works, but it is more subtle. Less of the “wow” of the original.
 
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PiratesMansion

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On one hand, it's good that they realized that the VQ was dumb and really served no purpose other than to PO guests for no reason.

But it's troubling that it was even a discovery that needed to be made in the first place.

If VQs are going to be a thing in the future, then they need to be used for soft openings or some other period prior to an attraction's official opening. To do anything beyond that is asking for trouble.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
huh?

The VQ served it's purpose... and is no longer needed based on demand. They used it before, and they'll use it again. No 'discovery' made here.
What would you say is its purpose was-to sell Lightning Lanes? Because otherwise I can't say it had a purpose.

If the ride system is proven and reliable, and WDW opened it without a virtual queue (in a park with less than ten rides) and things were fine, there's theoretically no reason for DL to go VQ unless they just wanted to milk out some ILL sales.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
What would you say is its purpose was-to sell Lightning Lanes? Because otherwise I can't say it had a purpose.

If the ride system is proven and reliable, and WDW opened it without a virtual queue (in a park with less than ten rides) and things were fine, there's theoretically no reason for DL to go VQ unless they just wanted to milk out some ILL sales.

WDW doesn't have the ravid AP population DLR does. Got news for you, expect the VQ model to be used on all major attraction openings going forward. Disney has killed the days of 4-6hr standby lines for openings.
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
WDW doesn't have the ravid AP population DLR does. Got news for you, expect the VQ model to be used on all major attraction openings going forward. Disney has killed the days of 4-6hr standby lines for openings.
Yes, I know, they're committed to annoying people for no reason because they think they have undying brand loyalty from everyone. Doesn't mean it's a good policy. Most people would rather be given the opportunity to wait if they so choose instead of being unable to ride the heavily advertised new attraction because they were a milisecond too slow on the fastest finger. Especially if it appears that a lot of slots were given over to people who paid extra.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
What would you say is its purpose was-to sell Lightning Lanes? Because otherwise I can't say it had a purpose.

If the ride system is proven and reliable, and WDW opened it without a virtual queue (in a park with less than ten rides) and things were fine, there's theoretically no reason for DL to go VQ unless they just wanted to milk out some ILL sales.
Yes there is a reason.

Overwhelming crowds for a new ride. There's almost always a sharp peak demand for a new ride. Once people had their first (or more) ride, then demand dies down.

They already had to snake the queue to BoH. Where would the line then go if it were four times longer?

VQ served it's purpose to schedule people's access to the ride without it becoming overwhelming for ops. (Which requires more CMs to manage the line snaking thru the park, and thus, costs more... in a market with a labor shortage.)
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
I was at the park yesterday and the VQ line to get into Toontown snaked all the way down Small World mall near the SBL Canal boats queue. The ride got off to a late start. I wonder if that was the nail in the coffin?
 

PiratesMansion

Well-Known Member
I was at the park yesterday and the VQ line to get into Toontown snaked all the way down Small World mall near the SBL Canal boats queue. The ride got off to a late start. I wonder if that was the nail in the coffin?
Which begs the question: if the queue is swallowing up so much room anyway, despite being on VQ, does that not additionally point to the VQ being kind of pointless and unnecessary?
 

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