Mickey and Minnie’s Runaway Railway - Disneyland

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
I will say the ride didn’t stop once during our ride yesterday which is so rare these days. I’m sure I just got lucky. Mario Kart stopped 2-3x on both of my rides.
There’s a couple clever things built into the ride to help it avoid stoppages. Of course there’s just some room for trains to stack up at the end if need be, like at IASW. But the autonomous nature of the vehicles gives them some extra flex and they use it. The trick that I have personally experienced is an extra long dance scene with Daisy that triggers if unload is getting backed up. When that happens, you break the illusion a bit because the next train is all up in your business as you’re leaving the dance studio. But it’s better than an outright stoppage. I am not sure how many scenes have flex points like this, but I would assume enough to accommodate a full round of trains.
 

gerarar

Premium Member
There’s a couple clever things built into the ride to help it avoid stoppages. Of course there’s just some room for trains to stack up at the end if need be, like at IASW. But the autonomous nature of the vehicles gives them some extra flex and they use it. The trick that I have personally experienced is an extra long dance scene with Daisy that triggers if unload is getting backed up. When that happens, you break the illusion a bit because the next train is all up in your business as you’re leaving the dance studio. But it’s better than an outright stoppage. I am not sure how many scenes have flex points like this, but I would assume enough to accommodate a full round of trains.
I believe there's a hold at the underwater segment. They just keep you facing the "screen" with some extra animation and whatnot.

There's also a hold right before the tornado. Mickey/Minnie go down in their balloon thingy but the RV doesn't proceed to the tornado.
 

lazyboy97o

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If it was still pulling 60 minute waits on low crowd days, it wouldn’t have closed.
This is such a ridiculous metric. I’m a well designed park with adequate capacity no attraction should have a 60 minute wait on low visitation days (crowding is relative and can be manipulated). Aiming for decent 1.5 attractions per guest per hour means most days that shouldn’t be the wait for most attractions.
 

No Name

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This is such a ridiculous metric. I’m a well designed park with adequate capacity no attraction should have a 60 minute wait on low visitation days (crowding is relative and can be manipulated). Aiming for decent 1.5 attractions per guest per hour means most days that shouldn’t be the wait for most attractions.
Unfortunately in Disney’s ideal world, guests could hit 1.5 attractions per hour with 60 minute standby waits, because they purchased Genie+ and ILL!
 

Brer Oswald

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This is such a ridiculous metric. I’m a well designed park with adequate capacity no attraction should have a 60 minute wait on low visitation days (crowding is relative and can be manipulated). Aiming for decent 1.5 attractions per guest per hour means most days that shouldn’t be the wait for most attractions.
I always waited for GMR, but it was never a ridiculous wait. Usually 15-20 minutes, which is what I consider to be a “decent wait”. Who wants to wait 60 minutes or more for anything?
 

Soleurs

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I mean, it's SUPER convenient to blame everything on Iger, but it strikes me as lazy and overly-simple. When Iger left, Disney's leadership structure for the parks looked like this:

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But somehow Iger is directly responsible for everything you hate about the parks? He's ultimately responsible for the entire company, but I'm pretty sure he didn't even know about parking fees! And now that he's becoming aware of how some things have affected public sentiment, customer satisfaction, and investor confidence, he's paying attention to some of them (and some are changing).

Mikey and Minnie's Runaway Railway in Toontown is a big addition to the park. But it also represents the new direction for Disney animation (an Iger initiative) and a respect for its history (something Iger at least pretends). If you want to blame Iger for everything bad, at least be consistent and give him credit for anything good.
Philippe Gas was president of WDAJ, the CEO of OLC since the 90s has been Toshio Kagami.
 

CastAStone

5th gate? Just build a new resort Bob.
This is such a ridiculous metric. I’m a well designed park with adequate capacity no attraction should have a 60 minute wait on low visitation days (crowding is relative and can be manipulated). Aiming for decent 1.5 attractions per guest per hour means most days that shouldn’t be the wait for most attractions.
The specific number wasn’t the point and I know you’re smart enough to know that. if it was popular and not just beloved it would still be there.
 

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MK-fan

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I tried to reserve today at 7am right on the dot and I got an error, I couldn’t believe it. Makes me not even wanna go today.
 

lazyboy97o

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The specific number wasn’t the point and I know you’re smart enough to know that. if it was popular and not just beloved it would still be there.
It was a bad point that completely buys into Disney’s decision to consciously make your experience worse. You don’t want a bunch of waits above 30 minutes. You want things people can easily get on. And in the case of The Great Movie Ride, Disney had even found someone else who was willing to help pay for it. The park still desperately needs capacity and still having The Great Movie Ride would have been a benefit to the park experience.
 

TP2000

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Philippe Gas was president of WDAJ, the CEO of OLC since the 90s has been Toshio Kagami.

Thank you.

There's also quite a few errors in that list on the American side of things too. Some of the erroneous names are years and years out of date.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Why didn’t they have the store open with the new ride? Talk about piecemeal

Plus most of Toontown is walled off and closed. It makes you wonder what all the rush was to get this opened?

Did someone claim January 27th as the kickoff to Disney100 too soon? If most of the new stuff won't be ready until early March, why not wait until early March to kick off the big marketing campaign? Was the President's Day weekend in February too lucrative to pass up?

It seems very weird to do a big campaign like this. Imagine if they opened Cars Land in June with only Racers opened, and curtains and walls up to cover up the closed land that didn't open until August.
 

networkpro

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In the Parks
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GMR needed an update to be sure but given it’s placement in the park and theme it was clearly designed as the thesis statement of the park.

Replacing GMR with with MMRR is akin to replacing Spaceship Earth with Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters. It upsets the thematic balance and vocal point of the park. And it speaks to TDO misunderstanding their audience.

What should add more insult to injury is there is still plenty of space to add MMRR elsewhere in DHS… a park with a meager number of attractions as it is.

Not quite, they own Buzz and dont have to rent.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Plus most of Toontown is walled off and closed. It makes you wonder what all the rush was to get this opened?

Did someone claim January 27th as the kickoff to Disney100 too soon? If most of the new stuff won't be ready until early March, why not wait until early March to kick off the big marketing campaign? Was the President's Day weekend in February too lucrative to pass up?

It seems very weird to do a big campaign like this. Imagine if they opened Cars Land in June with only Racers opened, and curtains and walls up to cover up the closed land that didn't open until August.

Just like Galaxy;s Edge ? ;)
 

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