MCU Phase 4 and beyond

[Lucky Rabbit]

I recently broke down what we know about the upcoming slate in the Loki thread: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...-marvel-mcu-series.971214/page-3#post-9822010

Today Disney announced some changes: https://comicbook.com/movies/news/disney-reshuffles-future-movie-release-schedule/

A press release from Walt Disney Studios confirmed that an Untitled Marvel Movie set for October 7, 2022 has been delayed until October 6, 2023 and that an Untitled Marvel Movie set for November 3, 2023 has been delayed until November 10, 2023. The Untitled Disney Live-Action movie was scheduled to be released on October 6, 2023, the new home of a Marvel movie assumed to be Blade, has been "removed from schedule."

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

I feel given what’s announced that F4 is the July 2023 movie and Blade the October 2023.

Marvel Studios theatrical release schedule

07/09/21 - Black Widow (Also on D+ Premier Access)
09/03/21 - Shang-Chi
11/05/21 - Eternals
12/17/21 - Spider-Man 3
03/25/22 - Doctor Strange 2
05/06/22 - Thor 4
07/08/22 - Black Panther 2
11/11/22 - Captain Marvel 2
02/17/23 - Ant-Man and the Wasp 3
05/05/23 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
07/28/23 - Fantastic 4 [Unconfirmed]
10/06/23 - Blade [Unconfirmed]
11/10/23 - Untitled Marvel movie
TBD - Captain America 4, Deadpool 3, The Mutants, and Spider-Woman

Marvel Studios Disney+ release schedule

06/09/21 - Loki
August 21 - What If?
Late 21 - Ms. Marvel
Late 21 - Hawkeye
2022 - She-Hulk
2022 - Moon Knight
2022 - Secret Invasion
2022 - Ironheart
2022 - Armor Wars
2022 - The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
2023 - I Am Groot
TBD - Wakanda
TBD - Okoye origin series
TBD - Echo

 

[MisterPenguin]

I feel given what’s announced that F4 is the July 2023 movie and Blade the October 2023.

Marvel Studios theatrical release schedule

07/09/21 - Black Widow (Also on D+ Premier Access)
09/03/21 - Shang-Chi
11/05/21 - Eternals
12/17/21 - Spider-Man 3
03/25/22 - Doctor Strange 2
05/06/22 - Thor 4
07/08/22 - Black Panther 2
11/11/22 - Captain Marvel 2
02/17/23 - Ant-Man and the Wasp 3
05/05/23 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
07/28/23 - Fantastic 4 [Unconfirmed]
10/06/23 - Blade [Unconfirmed]
11/10/23 - Untitled Marvel movie
TBD - Captain America 4, Deadpool 3, The Mutants, and Spider-Woman

Marvel Studios Disney+ release schedule

06/09/21 - Loki
August 21 - What If?
Late 21 - Ms. Marvel
Late 21 - Hawkeye
2022 - She-Hulk
2022 - Moon Knight
2022 - Secret Invasion
2022 - Ironheart
2022 - Armor Wars
2022 - The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
2023 - I Am Groot
TBD - Wakanda
TBD - Okoye origin series
TBD - Echo

The report of an Okoye series could mean a separate series for her, but, I believe that her series is the Wakanda series with Okoye being one of the main protagonists of the show. It is unlikely that two Wakanda series will come out two years from now. The site that leaked that info said as much that it could be just confirming her role in the Wakanda series.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

The report of an Okoye series could mean a separate series for her, but, I believe that her series is the Wakanda series with Okoye being one of the main protagonists of the show. It is unlikely that two Wakanda series will come out two years from now. The site that leaked that info said as much that it could be just confirming her role in the Wakanda series.

I initially assumed the same thing, but Deadline says it’s separate: https://deadline.com/2021/05/danai-...ever-disney-origin-spinoff-series-1234765921/

We hear from sources that Danai Gurira will be returning as Okoye, general of the Dora Milaje, in Ryan Coogler’s upcoming Black Panther: Wakanda Forever as well as reprising the character in an origin spinoff series for Disney+.

Disney didn’t have any comment about today’s report.

It would not come as a shock if Gurira also stars in the Wakanda series which Coogler is developing for Disney+. We first told you about the new show when the filmmaker and his Proximity Media signed a five-year overall exclusive TV deal with the studio.

 

[MisterPenguin]

I initially assumed the same thing, but Deadline says it’s separate: https://deadline.com/2021/05/danai-...ever-disney-origin-spinoff-series-1234765921/

Deadline says "according to our sources" without saying what they are, or referencing what is the probable original leak described here:

Danai Gurira Possibly Returning To Star In Okoye Solo Spin-Off At Disney+

Despite announcing several new series and movies thru 2023 at last year’s Disney Investor Day, it goes without saying that Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios have a lot more in the cards that we don’t know about. Thanks to a little digging done by our friends over at The Direct, we may now know...

thedisinsider.com

That leak makes it sound like it can go either way.

Unless Deadline says that their sources specifically rules out that leak referring to the Wakanda series, I'm on the fence about it.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Deadline says "according to our sources" without saying what they are, or referencing what is the probable original leak described here:

Danai Gurira Possibly Returning To Star In Okoye Solo Spin-Off At Disney+

Despite announcing several new series and movies thru 2023 at last year’s Disney Investor Day, it goes without saying that Kevin Feige and Marvel Studios have a lot more in the cards that we don’t know about. Thanks to a little digging done by our friends over at The Direct, we may now know...

thedisinsider.com

That leak makes it sound like it can go either way.

Unless Deadline says that their sources specifically rules out that leak referring to the Wakanda series, I'm on the fence about it.

The Coogler Disney+ stuff was an actual announcement with quotes from Coogler and Iger: https://deadline.com/2021/02/black-...y-television-deal-proximity-media-1234684707/

Of the major trades Hollywood Reporter made the first announcement on Okoye in a piece profiling attorneys: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/hollywood-most-powerful-lawyers-2021/jamie-mandelbaum-2

Tim Minear and The Handmaid’s Tale’s Bruce Miller — brokered a deal for actress Danai Gurira to not only reprise her role as Okoye in the upcoming Black Panther sequel but also in an origin spinoff series for Disney+.

Deadline is the only trade I’ve seen claiming this isn’t the same thing. But they also had the original Coogler story. In general it’s all kind of weird because to this point the shows have linked up to movies. This/these show(s) will seemingly come out well after Wakanda Forever.

 

[The Grand Inquisitor]

I feel given what’s announced that F4 is the July 2023 movie and Blade the October 2023.

Marvel Studios theatrical release schedule

07/09/21 - Black Widow (Also on D+ Premier Access)
09/03/21 - Shang-Chi
11/05/21 - Eternals
12/17/21 - Spider-Man 3
03/25/22 - Doctor Strange 2
05/06/22 - Thor 4
07/08/22 - Black Panther 2
11/11/22 - Captain Marvel 2
02/17/23 - Ant-Man and the Wasp 3
05/05/23 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3
07/28/23 - Fantastic 4 [Unconfirmed]
10/06/23 - Blade [Unconfirmed]
11/10/23 - Untitled Marvel movie
TBD - Captain America 4, Deadpool 3, The Mutants, and Spider-Woman

Marvel Studios Disney+ release schedule

06/09/21 - Loki
August 21 - What If?
Late 21 - Ms. Marvel
Late 21 - Hawkeye
2022 - She-Hulk
2022 - Moon Knight
2022 - Secret Invasion
2022 - Ironheart
2022 - Armor Wars
2022 - The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special
2023 - I Am Groot
TBD - Wakanda
TBD - Okoye origin series
TBD - Echo

I could see the untitled November 2023 movie being Captain America 4 or Deadpool 3

 

[MisterPenguin]

A video from comicbook.com mentioned that Marvel has wrapped filming on 10 upcoming theatrical/D+ titles!

 

[NateD1226]

The whole article is a nice read.

Kevin Feige Breaks Down the MCU's Phase 4 So Far: WandaVision, Falcon, Loki, and Black Widow

In this exclusive extended interview, the president of Marvel Studios reflects on how Endgame gave us hope in the pandemic, the evolution of the MCU on Disney+, and when we can expect to see Kathryn Hahn and Florence Pugh back in this universe.

editorial.rottentomatoes.com

 

[ppete1975]

The whole article is a nice read.

Kevin Feige Breaks Down the MCU's Phase 4 So Far: WandaVision, Falcon, Loki, and Black Widow

In this exclusive extended interview, the president of Marvel Studios reflects on how Endgame gave us hope in the pandemic, the evolution of the MCU on Disney+, and when we can expect to see Kathryn Hahn and Florence Pugh back in this universe.

editorial.rottentomatoes.com

very interesting, either could be given her power back by a new big baddie,

or wanda needs her help against a baddy and comes back for her help which either she has seen the light or stabs wanda in the back

then maybe she joins vals team

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Deadpool and Korg did a reaction video for the Free Guy trailer. Taika is in Free Guy, so that’s probably the only reason, but I’d love it if this is a hint at a Deadpool 3 team up.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

The whole article is a nice read.

Kevin Feige Breaks Down the MCU's Phase 4 So Far: WandaVision, Falcon, Loki, and Black Widow

In this exclusive extended interview, the president of Marvel Studios reflects on how Endgame gave us hope in the pandemic, the evolution of the MCU on Disney+, and when we can expect to see Kathryn Hahn and Florence Pugh back in this universe.

editorial.rottentomatoes.com

I'm sorry, I loved Falcon & Winter Soldier but is anybody really clamoring for more John Walker? GIVE US MORE ZEMO NOW PLEASE K'THANKS BYEEEE.

 

[MarvelCharacterNerd]

Deadpool and Korg did a reaction video for the Free Guy trailer. Taika is in Free Guy, so that’s probably the only reason, but I’d love it if this is a hint at a Deadpool 3 team up.

"I was raised by avocados."



I want to marry Taika Waititi.

That is all.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Phase 4 starting to look a lot different with production days moving most of the slate back:

Marvel Movie Shifts: ‘Doctor Strange 2’ To Kick Off Summer 2022, ‘Thor: Love And Thunder’ Heads To July & More

Disney has just shifted its entire Marvel movie theatrical schedule for 2022 and beyond.

deadline.com

Marvel Studios theatrical release schedule

11/05/21 - Eternals
12/17/21 - Spider-Man: No Way Home
03/25/22 - [Cancelled Date]
05/06/22 - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness
07/08/22 - Thor: Love and Thunder
11/11/22 - Black Panther: Wakanda Forever
02/17/23 - The Marvels
05/05/23 - Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 [not moving]
07/28/23 - Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania
10/06/23 - [Cancelled Date]
11/03/23 - UNTITLED
02/16/24 - UNTITLED
05/03/24 - UNTITLED
07/26/24 - UNTITLED
11/08/24 - UNTITLED

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

One interesting note from the press release, as shared here by Erik Davis of Fandango:




The original Untitled Marvel film scheduled for 7/28/23 was removed from the schedule. So was the Untitled film scheduled for 10/06/23. They could have easily just delayed said films to other spots. The 10/06/23 film was going to be Blade. I'm curious what's going on with it, because it was suppose to come out 10/7/22 and was then delayed a full year. Now it's off the schedule completely.

 

[MisterPenguin]

One interesting note from the press release, as shared here by Erik Davis of Fandango:




The original Untitled Marvel film scheduled for 7/28/23 was removed from the schedule. So was the Untitled film scheduled for 10/06/23. They could have easily just delayed said films to other spots. The 10/06/23 film was going to be Blade. I'm curious what's going on with it, because it was suppose to come out 10/7/22 and was then delayed a full year. Now it's off the schedule completely.

Besides Blade, other MCU movies (that we know about) waiting for a release date: Deadpool 3; Fantastic Four; Captain America 4; and any X-Men movie.

Between Eternals and Strange, we have to tide us over, the D+ series: Hawkeye & Ms. Marvel (and maybe She-Hulk). Also the Sony/Marvel-verse movies of Spider-Man and Morbius.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Besides Blade, other MCU movies (that we know about) waiting for a release date: Deadpool 3; Fantastic Four; Captain America 4; and any X-Men movie.

Between Eternals and Strange, we have to tide us over, the D+ series: Hawkeye & Ms. Marvel (and maybe She-Hulk). Also the Sony/Marvel-verse movies of Spider-Man and Morbius.

I saw this pointed out elsewhere. It originally seemed like F4 was eyeing that July 2023 date, but Watts is now doing this first:

Apple Lands Jon Watts Thriller Starring George Clooney, Brad Pitt

Watts is writing, directing and producing the feature that's about two lone wolf fixers assigned to the same job.

www.hollywoodreporter.com

And today a writer from GeeksWorldWide (they've hit on some things before) shared this rumor:



So Marvel just taking F4 off the schedule completely until they can adjust the timeline makes sense. She-Hulk was originally going to be the first show of 2022, but who knows with all these delays. Ms. Marvel going from 2021 to 2022 makes a lot more sense now that we know The Marvels got pushed back. She-Hulk wrapped months before Moon Knight, but also will probably involve a ton more work in post. Either way like you said we've got plenty of thing still coming.

I don't track the Sony stuff, but outside of Spider-Woman (rumored to be an MCU film) is there anything scheduled besides Morbius? I'm sure they have a "UNTITLED SONY MARVEL" on their schedule, but unless people tweet out the press releases I have no idea where it's saved.

 

[NateD1226]

I don't track the Sony stuff, but outside of Spider-Woman (rumored to be an MCU film) is there anything scheduled besides Morbius? I'm sure they have a "UNTITLED SONY MARVEL" on their schedule, but unless people tweet out the press releases I have no idea where it's saved.

Sony's Kraven The Hunter, starring Aaron Taylor Johnson, comes out January 2023.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

So the full schedule:

1/28/22 - Morbius
1/23/23 - Kraven
7/23/23 - Untitled
10/6/23 - Untitled

We know a Venom 3 and a Spider-Man 4 are both happening. We also know Olivia Wilde is making Spider-Woman and has referenced Feige’s involvement (hence why it might be MCU).

I’m guessing the 10/6 date may be in the MCU because Disney vacated that date completely.

 

[Disney Irish]

So the full schedule:

1/28/22 - Morbius
1/23/23 - Kraven
7/23/23 - Untitled
10/6/23 - Untitled

We know a Venom 3 and a Spider-Man 4 are both happening. We also know Olivia Wilde is making Spider-Woman and has referenced Feige’s involvement (hence why it might be MCU).

I’m guessing the 10/6 date may be in the MCU because Disney vacated that date completely.

Its still unclear at this point if the greater Sony's Spider-Man Universe (SSU, god what a name) will really be connected to the MCU or not.

Feige's involvement doesn't mean they're automatically in the MCU. The recent deal struck between Sony/Disney to keep Tom Holland's Spider-Man in the MCU had Sony wanting Feige more involved in their universe's productions, but not directly tying the films back to the MCU.

So again as with all rumors time will tell....