McDonalds At Downtown Disney Robbed

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
There are but a few examples out of many more I can come up with... without as much as even thinking hard about it.

Would you like me to list every crime example available (without even thinking about it) and the reasons. My post was a generalisation within the confines of the thread topic - why are you jumping down my throat ???? You're entitled to your opinion - there are no inaccuracies within my post - its just a simple statement outlining the main reasons why somebody may rob McDonalds
 

mkt

Disney's Favorite Scumbag™
Premium Member
Exactly my point - he steals to survive :rolleyes:
Which was not stated as such in your post. Nor could it have been abstracted or implied. You stated that those who commit crimes are either drug users or on government assistance.

Nice backtracking though.
 

mkt

Disney's Favorite Scumbag™
Premium Member
why are you jumping down my throat ????

Because in my field of work (advertising and political punditry), I know plenty of people with drug habits that don't need to turn to crime to support their habits and in my third-world home with close to 25% unemployment (Puerto Rico), I know plenty of people on government help that don't turn to crime to survive.

Or maybe it's just fun to jump on someones throat once in a while. Hopefully I didn't damage your trachea in jumping down your throat.

I blame video games and the interweb.
I blame Scotland.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Don't you miss your childhood Spicy Haggis McSheepcrap?

Im not a hairy Highlander........... round where I grew up it was
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and for desert

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Yeah, I've been around OC and LA counties. San Diego County too. For over a quarter of a century. :lol: There are some scary neighborhoods up in LA County, but per capita it's one of the safest big cities in the country.

The crime stats on Anaheim versus Orlando make Anaheim look like the Garden of Eden before Eve got hungry for an apple. :lol: http://www.areaconnect.com/crime/compare.htm?c1=Anaheim&s1=CA&c2=Orlando&s2=FL

All I'm saying is that WDW's Downtown Disney clearly has a crime problem, and a publicity problem that is related to the crime problem. Anaheim's Downtown Disney has a much better track record when it comes to crime and the publicity that goes with it. And Anaheim's Downtown Disney sits directly in between (we're talking mere steps here) two Disney theme parks that get a combined total of over 20 Million visitors per year, plus millions more that are just going to Downtown Disney for dinner and a movie.

It would be wise for TDO to send out a small group of security managers to Anaheim for a few days to see how Team Disney Anaheim polices and secures it's extremely popular Downtown Disney District. There's obviously some learning to be gained from such an exchange, and the Orlando folks could likely give the Anaheim folks some tips as well. :)
Really? I grew up on the streets around the LA area before i moved to Florida 20 years ago and i can tell you people get murdered down there constantly its not even a joke. If your a tourist you probably wont see all this stuff going down. But if the people who live there its a war zone. When i was growing up there i had to watch back every few seconds because someone wanted to fight or come at you with something. Growing up there wasnt easy, none of the city was at the time and its only gotten worse.
 

hemloc

Member
From a law enforcement perspective, I would be shocked if this weren't an inside job by a Mickey D's employee(Or ex-employee) or their associates. Heck, I wouldn't even be surprised if some WDW security officer were involved. It can definitely happen.

And this whole DTD is dangerous because it's "in" Orlando(Or near it) thing is a joke. I am now in El Paso, TX and our lovely neighbor to the south is Ciudad Juarez, Mexico. Juarez has had 100 murders in the first 8 days of September alone(Won't even go into how many there have been this year, so far!), yet El Paso remains one of the safest cities of it's size in the U.S. And I can actually see Juarez out my window. It's that close, and I've even heard automatic weapons fire just across the Rio Grande, but I have never felt like I was in any danger here. So, just being close to a crime-ridden area means nothing with respect to the crime rate in a certain area.
 

TP2000

Well-Known Member
Growing up there wasnt easy, none of the city was at the time and its only gotten worse.

I can only imagine how tough it was to live in the poorest and most dangerous neighborhoods in LA in the 1980's. But it's actually gotten much, much better, not worse. That's not exclusive to LA though, as crime rates have fallen for almost all major cities over the last 20 years.

Los Angeles crime has been improving yearly since about the time you left, and the overall crime rate in LA is now the lowest it's been since 1961. You have to go back to 1969 to find a year where a fewer number of murders were committed than in 2008. http://cbs2.com/local/Mayor.Antonio.Villaraigosa.2.900448.html

While it's crime rate has improved a great deal in 20 years, I still am not an LA fan though. It's a noisy, dirty city and I rarely go north of the 91 Freeway and leave Orange County. I had enough of noisy, dirty cities when I lived in Boston in the 80's. Except for a few trips to the museums each year, or maybe the Hollywood Bowl in summer, I avoid LA like someone in El Paso would avoid Ciudad Juarez. :lol:

As for the robbery at McDonalds at Downtown Disney, it should be interesting to see if this was in fact an inside job as many here believe who know more about profesional crime than I do.
 

CAPTAIN HOOK

Well-Known Member
Because in my field of work (advertising and political punditry), I know plenty of people with drug habits that don't need to turn to crime to support their habits and in my third-world home with close to 25% unemployment (Puerto Rico), I know plenty of people on government help that don't turn to crime to survive.

Because of my field of work (law enforcement) I deal with plenty of people who steal to fund their drugs habit and who screw the state benefit system because its not enough to live off and manage their habit.
Therefore, my original statement stands :p
 

IlikeDW

Active Member
I can only imagine how tough it was to live in the poorest and most dangerous neighborhoods in LA in the 1980's. But it's actually gotten much, much better, not worse. That's not exclusive to LA though, as crime rates have fallen for almost all major cities over the last 20 years.

Los Angeles crime has been improving yearly since about the time you left, and the overall crime rate in LA is now the lowest it's been since 1961. You have to go back to 1969 to find a year where a fewer number of murders were committed than in 2008. http://cbs2.com/local/Mayor.Antonio.Villaraigosa.2.900448.html

While it's crime rate has improved a great deal in 20 years, I still am not an LA fan though. It's a noisy, dirty city and I rarely go north of the 91 Freeway and leave Orange County. I had enough of noisy, dirty cities when I lived in Boston in the 80's. Except for a few trips to the museums each year, or maybe the Hollywood Bowl in summer, I avoid LA like someone in El Paso would avoid Ciudad Juarez. :lol:

As for the robbery at McDonalds at Downtown Disney, it should be interesting to see if this was in fact an inside job as many here believe who know more about profesional crime than I do.

I will need to find the article again but what I remember reading is nationwide trend was crime down pretty much across the board in the last ten years but there has been a reversal in last couple. shootings and stabbings down or steady but burglaries and rapes up.

http://bjsdata.ojp.usdoj.gov/dataonline/Search/Crime/State/StateCrime.cfm

urder and nonnegligent manslaughter
Year California Florida United States-Total

1981 3,143 1,522 22,520
1982 2,779 1,409 21,010
1983 2,639 1,199 19,310
1984 2,717 1,264 18,690
1985 2,770 1,296 18,980
1986 3,038 1,371 20,610
1987 2,924 1,371 20,100
1988 2,936 1,416 20,680
1989 3,158 1,405 21,500
1990 3,553 1,379 23,440
1991 3,859 1,248 24,700
1992 3,921 1,208 23,760
1993 4,096 1,224 24,530
1994 3,703 1,165 23,330
1995 3,531 1,037 21,610
1996 2,916 1,077 19,650
1997 2,579 1,012 18,210
1998 2,171 967 16,974
1999 2,005 859 15,522
2000 2,079 903 15,586
2001 2,206 874 15,980
2002 2,395 911 16,229
2003 2,407 924 16,528
2004 2,392 946 16,148
2005 2,503 883 16,692
2006 2,485 1,129 17,034

Year California Florida United States-Total

1981 93,781 35,473 592,910
1982 91,988 31,002 553,130
1983 85,826 28,126 506,570
1984 83,924 30,311 485,010
1985 86,387 35,506 497,870
1986 92,512 42,822 542,780
1987 83,341 42,869 517,700
1988 86,141 49,916 542,970
1989 96,431 51,188 578,330
1990 112,208 53,928 639,270
1991 124,939 53,083 687,730
1992 130,897 49,482 672,480
1993 126,436 48,913 659,870
1994 112,160 45,871 618,950
1995 104,611 42,485 580,510
1996 94,222 41,643 535,590
1997 81,468 40,459 497,950
1998 68,782 36,198 447,186
1999 60,039 31,969 409,371
2000 60,249 31,809 408,016
2001 64,545 32,867 422,921
2002 64,968 32,581 420,806
2003 63,770 31,523 414,235
2004 61,768 29,997 401,470
2005 63,622 30,141 417,122
2006 70,968 34,147 447,403
 

majorrfb

Member
Right on!!

DTD is a safe area no different than your local suburban mall in fact I would bet your local high end mall has more crime that you may even be aware of. So to say DTD is getting bad is truly not the case. Any establishment nowadays is prone to crimes being committed.

Also remember the locality of DTD to the city limits , Orlando has a high crime rate so to say DTD should be immune is pipe dreaming.

It is another sad commentary regarding our society. As long as there are people who will try to justify and satisfy their needs at the expense of others is horrible. My guess is either drug and/or gang related or both. Thankfully no employees were injured (but mentally scared I'm sure). May the bad guy be captured and be jailed where he belongs. :brick:
 

MousDad

New Member
Thought I would just put in a nice plug for my hometown for once! :wave:

There is one absolute fact about the Detroit area. The people who love the Detroit area the most are the people who actually live, or have lived there. The people who dislike it the most are the people who don't, or haven't.

Er...I guess that's 2 facts.
 

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