Master of the Parks - Spring Challenge (Tomorrowland Restoration)

BryceM

BryceM

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@rct247 - Awesome proposal! It was strong, until the end where it seemed you fizzled out. Your presentation was neat and you organized everything very well. I like the different names you've assigned to different areas of the land (like other members have done so far). Avenue of the Planets seemed well executed, and your replacement of Stitch seemed like a good one, and one definitely worthy of being in Tomorrowland. The Astronomer's Club sounds AWESOME, and I love the theme you went for, and I'm sure it will be extremely popular, due to it being a themed dining experience and it being a prime location for Wishes. I like how you admitted that Tomorrowland still wasnt the best place for Laugh Floor, but at least you are keeping it fresh and updated.

I liked Galaxy Palace Gardens. It seems like a nice place to rest, with the relaxing Carousel of Progress, the music and the "gardens" themselves. Most theme parks could use places to just stop and smell the roses, and The Magic Kingdom is no exception. I like what you did with CoP, it really needs some loving. You kept it the same attraction, but also made it seem fresh and new with the new facade and some new scenes to make it more up to date.

What you did with Space Mountain FINALLY makes it seem worthy enough to be on the same level as Disneyland's. A refurbishment like this is really what this ride needs. And even though the update is so profound, it is still essentially the same ride and not a copy of Disneyland's, which is a very good thing in my mind! Still the same Space Mountain we know and love, but just not as campy and... old seeming.

Here is where it seemed you started to fizzle out... I like Interstellar Drive and what you did here, but I felt like I wanted more with your short descriptions. Though both new attractions sound stellar and are two things that The Magic Kingdom needs, I just wanted to hear more about them. Still, it sounds like a great little section of Tomorrowland.

The Grid seemed like an after thought. After all that you're doing, why is "The Grid" necessary. I don't know if it fits in with the rest of Tomorrowland so well... I'm sure the theming would be amazing, but I don't know if its on the same level as the rest of ideas, since it is just so different. It would just seem like a brash transition from this new and updated version of Tomorrowland, to a small franchise based mini land themed to a computer and neon. I don't know, maybe I'm just overthinking it, but I'm really not so sure about anything Tron in Tomorrowland. You also rushed on describing the ride. I really wanted more information about it. Is there a story, or is it just another coaster in the dark? Still, this was one of my favorite proposals, good job!
 
Tip Top Club

Tip Top Club

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Guys I love you all, But I'm going to have to Withdraw as a Judge this time!

I have loved reading your ideas and I hope Bryce is able to take the critiques I got in into account, but I gotta leave this one in his able hands.

I've been sidetracked by several real life projects that are simply taking up too much of my time, I haven't had a spare minute in days and I probably won't have one for at least another week. If There is a chance I will try to get through the rest of them then.

Thank you all so much for participating, and for giving me a chance to read your wonderful ideas, and give you feedback, and for not coming to my house and mobbing me when I give you feedback you don't want to hear!

Again, thanks for the privilege, I'll try to get back and finish next week but for now it's Sy Anara, and it's nor fair that I've been stringing you folks along! Hopefully I'll be back to judge a future competition.

Thanks again, Guys!
And Thanks Again @BryceM
 
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Sassagoula-Rvr

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Tip Top Club said:
Guys I love you all, But I'm going to have to Withdraw as a Judge this time!

I have loved reading your ideas and I hope Bryce is able to take the critiques I got in into account, but I gotta leave this one in his able hands.

I've been sidetracked by several real life projects that are simply taking up too much of my time, I haven't had a spare minute in days and I probably won't have one for at least another week. If There is a chance I will try to get through the rest of them then.

Thank you all so much for participating, and for giving me a chance to read your wonderful ideas, and give you feedback, and for not coming to my house and mobbing me when I give you feedback you don't want to hear!

Again, thanks for the privilege, I'll try to get back and finish next week but for now it's Sy Anara, and it's nor fair that I've been stringing you folks along! Hopefully I'll be back to judge a future competition.

Thanks again, Guys!
And Thanks Again @BryceM
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I know exactly how you feel....dang real life...it always gets in the way of hobbies.
 
BryceM

BryceM

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@MonorailRed - I actually really like what you did here. The 3 different themed lands inside of one help to really contribute to the land itself, as others have done. The Space Cadet ride sounds really fun, and I'm sure will be a big hit. The Tomorrowland Labs sounds like a cool and unique experience, and having two or three different ways to go within the attraction really increases the re-rideability. The version with the scary alien monster sounds like a homage to Alien Encounter, which is awesome! This attraction gives you a choice to either go the scary way or not, which is a very smart move. Dane's Intergalacitc Dougnut Shop sounds like an instant heart attack. Hamburger doughnut? Oh dear lord. Theres a lot of interesting and unique options here, which I can see what you were trying to do, but a lot of them sound downright disgusting. I like your ice cream shop and how you tied an interesting little story to it. It makes it all the more intimate.

I don't know if the removal of Astro Orbiter was completely necessary. In the most visited theme park in the world, I don't think it makes sense to remove attractions that draw decent crowds. It just does not seem all that logical. I do like Progress City Car Rentals. The current Tomorrowland Speedway is downright ugly and uninteresting, but this make it more attractive and just more fun in general. And it actually now would fit in with the theme with Tomorrowland.

While it seems to look attractive, I don't know if the larger presence of Meet the Robinsons and Monsters Inc. was completely necessary. Or even WALL-E. Does Tomorrowland need more Pixar and kids movie franchises tied into it? I mean, its your proposal and you could go anyway you want with it, but I think part of the problem now with Tomorrowland is that its lost it's meaning, and this doesn't help it at all. You left Space Mountain the same, no refurb at all. The least you could do was update some of the effects or have a general clean up of the ride itself. Its in a rather poor conditon, and feels like an old wooden roller coaster. You could keep it the same classic ride even with an update or general touch up.

The WALL-E area sounds really nice and relaxing, and I like how you specifically included it for an easier transition between Tomorrowland and Fantasyland. Good job on that! Overall, this was a very nice idea, which was supported with your creative and informative pictures and backstory.
 
BryceM

BryceM

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@Sam4D23 - This could have been a lot of stronger if you included some more information. It seemed like a very scattered and rushed attempt at an idea when everyone else went into so much detail.

Anyways, I'm not sure if I agree with the Tomorrowland Transit Authority being replaced by a high speed bullet train. First off, the station building sounds very unattractive and like it would be an eyesore in Tomorrowland. Second off, what is the purpose of the bullet train in Tomorrowland? The TTA is there for relaxation and education purposes. This just seems like a quick ride which would be too short to either educate or give views of the park because of how fast it would go. It just does not seem like a logical replacement.

New Centers... confused on what this is. Okay then. Tan skyscrapers that are walkthrough attractions is what I got out of it.

You went into so little detail about The Doctor Who ride and "the fun space ride". They sound interesting enough, I just wish there was more detail here... which sums up my overall thoughts on your idea.
 
BryceM

BryceM

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@WED99 - I will get to your's later. I tried to download the file really quickly, but I had to update my Adobe Flash Player, and I need to get to work. Sorry! When I get off work, I'll hopefully be able to download it.
 
Sam Magic

Sam Magic

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Thank you Bryce I really appreciate your comments. The plan was very rushed and has since been re visited. It was more of a brain child that is still growing I hope to post my revised plan today. I thank you for everything and allowing me to participate in this challenge!
 
MonorailRed

MonorailRed

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BryceM said:
@MonorailRed - I actually really like what you did here. The 3 different themed lands inside of one help to really contribute to the land itself, as others have done. The Space Cadet ride sounds really fun, and I'm sure will be a big hit. The Tomorrowland Labs sounds like a cool and unique experience, and having two or three different ways to go within the attraction really increases the re-rideability. The version with the scary alien monster sounds like a homage to Alien Encounter, which is awesome! This attraction gives you a choice to either go the scary way or not, which is a very smart move. Dane's Intergalacitc Dougnut Shop sounds like an instant heart attack. Hamburger doughnut? Oh dear lord. Theres a lot of interesting and unique options here, which I can see what you were trying to do, but a lot of them sound downright disgusting. I like your ice cream shop and how you tied an interesting little story to it. It makes it all the more intimate.

I don't know if the removal of Astro Orbiter was completely necessary. In the most visited theme park in the world, I don't think it makes sense to remove attractions that draw decent crowds. It just does not seem all that logical. I do like Progress City Car Rentals. The current Tomorrowland Speedway is downright ugly and uninteresting, but this make it more attractive and just more fun in general. And it actually now would fit in with the theme with Tomorrowland.

While it seems to look attractive, I don't know if the larger presence of Meet the Robinsons and Monsters Inc. was completely necessary. Or even WALL-E. Does Tomorrowland need more Pixar and kids movie franchises tied into it? I mean, its your proposal and you could go anyway you want with it, but I think part of the problem now with Tomorrowland is that its lost it's meaning, and this doesn't help it at all. You left Space Mountain the same, no refurb at all. The least you could do was update some of the effects or have a general clean up of the ride itself. Its in a rather poor conditon, and feels like an old wooden roller coaster. You could keep it the same classic ride even with an update or general touch up.

The WALL-E area sounds really nice and relaxing, and I like how you specifically included it for an easier transition between Tomorrowland and Fantasyland. Good job on that! Overall, this was a very nice idea, which was supported with your creative and informative pictures and backstory.
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Thanks for the comments @BryceM! The more I look at this, the more I really think I could have used Astro Orbitor in this, and the Meet the Robinson's themed store was unnecessary. I'll remember your critiques and use them to try to do better in the rest of the competition!
 
WED99

WED99

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MonorailRed said:
Thanks for the comments @BryceM! The more I look at this, the more I really think I could have used Astro Orbitor in this, and the Meet the Robinson's themed store was unnecessary. I'll remember your critiques and use them to try to do better in the rest of the competition!
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The rest? It was a one time challenge.
 
BryceM

BryceM

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@WED99 - First off, I am so sorry that it has taken me so long to get to this, as I have been so busy with work, school, prom, SAT, AICE/AP tests, etc. I have hardly any time to be able to read this masterpiece you've created.

Ah yes, it's pretty much a masterpiece. My first impression of your idea was that this is the perfect representation of Tomorrowland. It prides itself on the "past-future", because, Tomorrowland hasn't really represented the idea of the future for quite some time now. But this, it makes Tomorrowland make so much more sense. The incorporation of Fink really helps to solidify the land. By removing intrusions such as Stitch and Buzz, it makes the whole land more cohesive, and a much better representation of Walt's vision. Fink also helps to differentiate Tomorrowland from Epcot's Future World, which is awesome. Fink Future Preparation Exam was amazing. It was innovative, creative and it has a high re-rideability. Though, I wish you chose a name without "exam" in it, as that might scare guests away from riding, but perhaps not. I also don't know how I felt about the re-naming of Space Mountain. It ties in with the theme, but it almost seems taboo to re-name the original incarnation of these attraction and completely change it. Oh well, its a small gripe really, as this is your land.

Anyways, this was pretty much perfect. I feel bad that I cannot analyze your 23 pages, line by line for this review, but just know what you've created is beautiful. From Mrs. Mac: The Mechanical Maid to Motorcar of the Future, this land symbolizes Walt's vision of Tomorrow, the vision that is dated and old, but it makes it satiric (in a way) and helps to make the theme stand out even more than updating this land to the current vision of the future. This was amazing, and I commend you for all the work you put into it.
 
WED99

WED99

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BryceM said:
@WED99 - First off, I am so sorry that it has taken me so long to get to this, as I have been so busy with work, school, prom, SAT, AICE/AP tests, etc. I have hardly any time to be able to read this masterpiece you've created.

Ah yes, it's pretty much a masterpiece. My first impression of your idea was that this is the perfect representation of Tomorrowland. It prides itself on the "past-future", because, Tomorrowland hasn't really represented the idea of the future for quite some time now. But this, it makes Tomorrowland make so much more sense. The incorporation of Fink really helps to solidify the land. By removing intrusions such as Stitch and Buzz, it makes the whole land more cohesive, and a much better representation of Walt's vision. Fink also helps to differentiate Tomorrowland from Epcot's Future World, which is awesome. Fink Future Preparation Exam was amazing. It was innovative, creative and it has a high re-rideability. Though, I wish you chose a name without "exam" in it, as that might scare guests away from riding, but perhaps not. I also don't know how I felt about the re-naming of Space Mountain. It ties in with the theme, but it almost seems taboo to re-name the original incarnation of these attraction and completely change it. Oh well, its a small gripe really, as this is your land.

Anyways, this was pretty much perfect. I feel bad that I cannot analyze your 23 pages, line by line for this review, but just know what you've created is beautiful. From Mrs. Mac: The Mechanical Maid to Motorcar of the Future, this land symbolizes Walt's vision of Tomorrow, the vision that is dated and old, but it makes it satiric (in a way) and helps to make the theme stand out even more than updating this land to the current vision of the future. This was amazing, and I commend you for all the work you put into it.
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Thanks heaps Bryce, don't stress over it being late I am in no rush. All the critiques you gbe were true, in fact they were the problems that kept me up at night thinking. I spent a while thinking of something without exam, couldn't come up with anything.

Thank you for waitin for me to post, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
 

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