Marvel Studios' Avengers: Doomsday

[LSLS]

That article made a hard swing from reporting to armchair studio management.

Anyhoo, the author made the point that since RDJ's character is named "Victor Von Doom," then he can't be a Stark variant because they don't share the same name.

There are dozens of counter examples in the MCU and comics in which a variant has a different name. E.g., Kang variants often had differing names.

So, this could be a Tony Stark variant with a different name (and background and upbringing).

Or not.

And Quicksilver (if you consider that a variant with a different name), which is probably the one thing I really hated about Wandavision. This is going to be really tough/delicate to navigate. If he never takes off the mask, it may work. But I don't think if he's going around with the mask off and the Avengers are reacting, it will go great. I get they have had actors play different characters, and variants have different names, but this isn't some 10 minute cameo character, this is the main character of the entire MCU for 10+ years. THE man that saved the world in the largest movie ever (until Avatar was rereleased, and before End Game gets another release).

But I'm with the others where this multiverse stuff is just a bit too much for me as a casual. I'm hoping they use these next few years to close that out and just continue in one universe personally.

 

[Prince-1]

If the reporting is correct then I see why the RDJ and the Russo Bros came back to Marvel: $$$$$

Robert Downey Jr. & the Russos’ Salary for Avengers 5 & Secret Wars Reportedly Revealed

Robert Downey Jr. will appear as Doctor Doom in Avengers 5 directed by the Russo brothers, with the actor reportedly securing a huge salary.

www.comingsoon.net

 

[LSLS]

If the reporting is correct then I see why the RDJ and the Russo Bros came back to Marvel: $$$$$

Robert Downey Jr. & the Russos’ Salary for Avengers 5 & Secret Wars Reportedly Revealed

Robert Downey Jr. will appear as Doctor Doom in Avengers 5 directed by the Russo brothers, with the actor reportedly securing a huge salary.

www.comingsoon.net

Be prepared, @Sirwalterraleigh has earned a victory lap on this one. He said for years Disney dropped the ball letting him and Evans walk, and always said throw enough money and they would have stayed.

 

[Dead2009]

If the reporting is correct then I see why the RDJ and the Russo Bros came back to Marvel: $$$$$

Robert Downey Jr. & the Russos’ Salary for Avengers 5 & Secret Wars Reportedly Revealed

Robert Downey Jr. will appear as Doctor Doom in Avengers 5 directed by the Russo brothers, with the actor reportedly securing a huge salary.

www.comingsoon.net

Reason Why Robert Downey Jr. Returned to Marvel as Doctor Doom Reportedly Revealed

Robert Downey Jr. will officially return to the MCU with Avengers 5. Allegedly, the one condition for his return to Marvel has been revealed.

www.comingsoon.net

And the directors are the only ones he'd work with when it came to MCU movies, so unless they directed another Iron Man, we probably arent getting another standalone with him in it.

 

[Prince-1]

Be prepared, @Sirwalterraleigh has earned a victory lap on this one. He said for years Disney dropped the ball letting him and Evans walk, and always said throw enough money and they would have stayed.

Not sure if he deserves that much credit for saying that Marvel should have tried to keep arguably the MCU's two biggest stars for future projects.

 

[Prince-1]

Reason Why Robert Downey Jr. Returned to Marvel as Doctor Doom Reportedly Revealed

Robert Downey Jr. will officially return to the MCU with Avengers 5. Allegedly, the one condition for his return to Marvel has been revealed.

www.comingsoon.net

And the directors are the only ones he'd work with when it came to MCU movies, so unless they directed another Iron Man, we probably arent getting another standalone with him in it.

Well since they didn't direct any of the Iron Man movies I think RDJ would be fine working with other directors on IM4 if that ever happened. He knows that the Russo Bros can deliver the big massive spectacle of an Avengers movie which is why he wants them and only them to direct the next two movies.

 

[Disney Irish]

Not sure if he deserves that much credit for saying that Marvel should have tried to keep arguably the MCU's two biggest stars for future projects.

Especially since they both walked away on their own because they wanted to do other projects. It never meant they couldn't come back in the future. They just wanted the flexibility to do other things, which an MCU contract doesn't allow.

 

[Prince-1]

Especially since they both walked away on their own because they wanted to do other projects. It never meant they couldn't come back in the future. They just wanted the flexibility to do other things, which an MCU contract doesn't allow.

Marvel definitely would have loved to have them stay in the MCU but, like you said, it was their decision to leave which is why they got the endings they did in Endgame.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Agree with all of that. I think getting Dr. Doom finally in the MCU will be awesome and he's great as the next big bad (and they can also bring back Kang down the line with a different actor if they wanted).

But the RDJ news has me skeptical because I feel it will detract from the awesomeness of Doom. Even if he isn't related to Tony Stark in any way - and it would be very odd to use RDJ if they were planning to have this be a completely different character - it just seems like an unnecessarily and distracting feature to use him when plenty of other quality actors could do the role.

Furthermore, I would strongly prefer that Dr. Doom be in a mask full time, at least after a basic original story and once the mask is used. And using RDJ in that role makes me think they will have him take off the mask regularly to show the actor's face which takes away from the character (who is so vain that he doesn't let anyone see his face without the mask).

I initially thought they might be using RDJ as Doom because he can be masked a lot of the time. That means the actor can have a shorter work period and they can pay him less. We saw that in Spider-Man where Iron Man had a decent presence but RDJ didn't actually appear much.

That was based on the notion that he might not want to come back full time again so soon, but the article on his salary would suggest otherwise. You don't pay those kind of dollars for a smaller role.

Not sure if he deserves that much credit for saying that Marvel should have tried to keep arguably the MCU's two biggest stars for future projects.

Technically, Evans can come back any time since his character didn't die. We saw de-aging tech in Endgame so they could bring him back with the push of a button. They could also do a series about him and Peggy in the past.

 

[Disney Irish]

I initially thought they might be using RDJ as Doom because he can be masked a lot of the time. That means the actor can have a shorter work period and they can pay him less. We saw that in Spider-Man where Iron Man had a decent presence but RDJ didn't actually appear much.

That was based on the notion that he might not want to come back full time again so soon, but the article on his salary would suggest otherwise. You don't pay those kind of dollars for a smaller role.

Doom, no matter masked or not, is not a smaller role. You only bring in RDJ if you want the name attached to the role.

Technically, Evans can come back any time since his character didn't die. We saw de-aging tech in Endgame so they could bring him back with the push of a button. They could also do a series about him and Peggy in the past.

No need to de-age as they can always either A. bring him back by plucking him out of an early part of the time line, or B. use another universe version of Cap. But since they would probably not want to upset the Steve/Peggy happy ending they would probably go for B if they were to bring him back.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Be prepared, @Sirwalterraleigh has earned a victory lap on this one. He said for years Disney dropped the ball letting him and Evans walk, and always said throw enough money and they would have stayed.

Absolutely every sane person knew they would be back for the two Avengers films centered around multiple universes. The silly posts were people conjecturing that their cagey and sarcastic public comments meant they’d never return.

Downey and Evans wanted to leave. They left, Downey won an Oscar and probably an Emmy, and came back. There is nothing to say either could have been inclined to stay on indefinitely at any price.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Doom, no matter masked or not, is not a smaller role. You only bring in RDJ if you want the name attached to the role.


No need to de-age as they can always either A. bring him back by plucking him out of an early part of the time line, or B. use another universe version of Cap. But since they would probably not want to upset the Steve/Peggy happy ending they would probably go for B if they were to bring him back.

The point is that if RDJ wanted to come back but only work for a couple of weeks or something, they could so this by keeping him masked much of the time.

They would still get the name recognition and buzz.

He's been in 9 Marvel movies and obviously wants to do other stuff. It's not a stretch to speculate he might have been willing to return but not in a full-time capacity for multiple films.

 

[Disney Irish]

The point is that if RDJ wanted to come back but only work for a couple of weeks or something, they could so this by keeping him masked much of the time.

They would still get the name recognition and buzz.

He's been in 9 Marvel movies and obviously wants to do other stuff. It's not a stretch to speculate he might have been willing to return but not in a full-time capacity for multiple films.

I don't disagree that he could have done that in any return role he did. Except with a role like Doom its a larger commitment, so its obvious its not just a paycheck for a couple weeks of work. So I don't think this is just a part time gig for him.

But yes in the future I could see it being more of a Mando type role where its voice acting only for RDJ.

 

[Andrew C]

 

[DCBaker]

Chris Evans will reportedly return to the MCU in Avengers: Doomsday:

Chris Evans is returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as part of the cast for “Avengers: Doomsday,” the highly anticipated sequel that will also star Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom, The Wrap has learned exclusively. Evans will be involved in some capacity, but the extent and exact nature of his role is unknown.

Full article at the link below:

Chris Evans Sets Marvel Return in 'Avengers: Doomsday' | Exclusive

Chris Evans is coming back to the MCU and is set to return for "Avengers: Doomsday" opposite Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom.

www.thewrap.com

 

[MisterPenguin]

Chris Evans will reportedly return to the MCU in Avengers: Doomsday:

Chris Evans is returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as part of the cast for “Avengers: Doomsday,” the highly anticipated sequel that will also star Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom, The Wrap has learned exclusively. Evans will be involved in some capacity, but the extent and exact nature of his role is unknown.

Full article at the link below:

Chris Evans Sets Marvel Return in 'Avengers: Doomsday' | Exclusive

Chris Evans is coming back to the MCU and is set to return for "Avengers: Doomsday" opposite Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom.

www.thewrap.com

Perhaps as... Captain Storm!!

 

[Disney Irish]

Perhaps as... Captain Storm!!

Johnny Rogers?

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Chris Evans will reportedly return to the MCU in Avengers: Doomsday:

Chris Evans is returning to the Marvel Cinematic Universe as part of the cast for “Avengers: Doomsday,” the highly anticipated sequel that will also star Robert Downey Jr. as Doctor Doom, The Wrap has learned exclusively. Evans will be involved in some capacity, but the extent and exact nature of his role is unknown.

Full article at the link below:

Chris Evans Sets Marvel Return in 'Avengers: Doomsday' | Exclusive

Chris Evans is coming back to the MCU and is set to return for "Avengers: Doomsday" opposite Robert Downey Jr.'s Doctor Doom.

www.thewrap.com

Oh no…

 

[Disney Irish]

Oh no…

Why oh no? It was sort of expected that Evans would come back eventually.

 

[DisneyWarrior27]

Why oh no? It was sort of expected that Evans would come back eventually.

Because to me it feels like Disney is desperate and afraid any of the new characters from Phase 4, which they should be expanding more on, are not going to help this movie be a hit and that they’re afraid new characters don’t sell as well like the old guard does.

Basically, they’re afraid to move forward.