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Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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Time to change the forum thread title:

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Marvel Drops Jonathan Majors After Assault, Harassment Verdict

The actor starred as Kang the Conqueror in 'Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania' and was poised to star in 'Avengers: The Kang Dynasty.'
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Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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The problem is not getting someone to fill the role. There are plenty of candidates. You can go younger with John Boyega or go with royalty with Denzel. The issue is that MCU is struggling period. Is there even any interest in Kang? Probably not. I'd say can the whole thing and just go forward with Fantastic Four, Doom, and mutants. The multiverse plotline has died and nobody cares. Time to let that rest in piece(s). Let Daniel Destin do Shang Chi 2 and bring Black Panther and Namor into the Fanstastic 4 world.
 
Screamface

Screamface

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They should use the opportunity to just reboot the direction they were heading. It's far too messy and the general audience is not up to speed with all the different films and TV shows anymore.
 
Prince-1

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Jedijax719

Jedijax719

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Prince-1 said:
Domingo is a great actor but they just need to move away from Kang. His storyline has been anywhere from bad to just awful. The ending of Loki 2 did a good job of putting a bow on Kang.
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Well, in my opinion, they need to do away with ALL previous MCU storylines (except maybe Black Panther and Shang Chi), ESPECIALLY anything to do with timelines and multiverse stuff. They need to jump right into a reboot with X-Men. The multiverse was a great way to insert the mutants into the story and now they need to run with that. But, hey, who am I?
 
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doctornick

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Disney Irish said:
Wonder if Doom is going to be a Tony Stark variant, which would make sense why RDJ would come back to play him.
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That’s seems most likely and I hate it. I really want to see a properly done real Victor Von Doom - IMHO the greatest comic book villain of all time.

I actually think RDJ could do a great Victor so I’d love to just have him be that character and have us all ignore that he looks like Tony Stark (would be behind a mask pretty much all the time anyway). But it seems bizarre to use RDJ if that’s the plan so I’m expecting disappointment.
 
BrianLo

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He's definitely being plucked out of the multiverse and he's definitely the byproduct of different course. I love it. But I have very little attachment or general knowledge of Fantastic Four.

Would have been cool to be in the room, that was a big surprise.
 
BrianLo

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doctornick said:
That’s seems most likely and I hate it. I really want to see a properly done real Victor Von Doom - IMHO the greatest comic book villain of all time.

I actually think RDJ could do a great Victor so I’d love to just have him be that character and have us all ignore that he looks like Tony Stark (would be behind a mask pretty much all the time anyway). But it seems bizarre to use RDJ if that’s the plan so I’m expecting disappointment.
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Actually I take it back. They say he is playing Victor Von Doom. Not just Dr. Doom. Even if it's a multiverse thing, doesn't appear to just be a bad Tony Stark variant.
 
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doctornick

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BrianLo said:
Actually I take it back. They say he is playing Victor Von Doom. Not just Dr. Doom. Even if it's a multiverse thing, doesn't appear to just be a bad Tony Stark variant.
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If it’s something like “in this universe, Tony Stark was kidnapped/adopted and raised in Latveria as Victor Von Doom and becomes that character” - and basically has all the characteristics of Doom, not Stark - that’s actually not bad and I’d be okay with it.
 
BrianLo

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doctornick said:
If it’s something like “in this universe, Tony Stark was kidnapped/adopted and raised in Latveria as Victor Von Doom and becomes that character” - and basically has all the characteristics of Doom, not Stark - that’s actually not bad and I’d be okay with it.
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Ya the fuller version of the reveal, both the director and RDJ make it more apparent he is playing a new character. I think your suggestion makes a lot of sense.

The sacred timeline Avengers need to recognize him, which I think provides some added interesting layers of complexity.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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doctornick said:
That’s seems most likely and I hate it. I really want to see a properly done real Victor Von Doom - IMHO the greatest comic book villain of all time.

I actually think RDJ could do a great Victor so I’d love to just have him be that character and have us all ignore that he looks like Tony Stark (would be behind a mask pretty much all the time anyway). But it seems bizarre to use RDJ if that’s the plan so I’m expecting disappointment.
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BrianLo said:
Ya the fuller version of the reveal, both the director and RDJ make it more apparent he is playing a new character. I think your suggestion makes a lot of sense.

The sacred timeline Avengers need to recognize him, which I think provides some added interesting layers of complexity.
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Well he is not from the 616 universe, otherwise that would make him a twin of Tony, which I doubt they would do the evil long lost twin trope. So he would have to be from another universe, probably whatever one the F4 are from in the upcoming movie. And unless RDJ completely changes his face with prosthetics and/or CGI, he is going to look like Tony when in the 616 which I would agree adds some layers of complexity, but still makes me think it'll be a variant or some descendant of Tony from the F4 universe. It could be just like Kang is a descendant of Reed Richards, so they take that story line that they can't now use and apply it to Victor. And besides Doom and Tony have been both allies and enemies in the comics, so its like poetry.
 
Casper Gutman

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It’s Tony from the FF universe, one where he couldn’t handle Reed being the smartest guy in the room. It plays on what we already know about Tony - his arrogance, his rashness - to establish one of Doom’s key characteristics, his irrational hatred of Richards, in a way that instantly makes sense to MCU viewers. It also takes a key element of Reed - his personality means he’s much more likely to be a villain then a hero - and shifts it to a character we have already seen walking that fine line between good and evil. Which makes sense, since who knows how many FF movies we get to establish that aspect of Reed with the imminent shift to mutants.
 
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doctornick

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Casper Gutman said:
It’s Tony from the FF universe, one where he couldn’t handle Reed being the smartest guy in the room. It plays on what we already know about Tony - his arrogance, his rashness - to establish one of Doom’s key characteristics, his irrational hatred of Richards, in a way that instantly makes sense to MCU viewers. It also takes a key element of Reed - his personality means he’s much more likely to be a villain then a hero - and shifts it to a character we have already seen walking that fine line between good and evil. Which makes sense, since who knows how many FF movies we get to establish that aspect of Reed with the imminent shift to mutants.
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If so, that’s terrible. That’s not Doom. He’s certainly not Evil Tony.

Also how is Reed ever anywhere near being evil?
 

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