Marvel coming to WDW?!?!

Mike S

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It actually belies my own ignorance. With the abundance of great literature that is available, it's difficult for me to understand why comic books would appeal to people. Someone whose first language is not English might find comic books useful as a primer to help them learn the language. And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of comics in favor of better reading material. However, I was never a fan of comics in any form even as a youth. I found them all to be very boring. But perhaps you have been able to glean some literary genius in comic books that I failed to discover.

As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors? I understand that comic books do appeal to some people and the audience is apparently very large. It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.
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Filby61

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As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors?

I've been reading science fiction since I was 7 (more decades ago than I like to believe) and this is the first time I've heard anyone cite Hugo Gernsback as a "notable author" in the same sentence with Ray Bradbury.
 

Launchpad McQuack

Well-Known Member
It actually belies my own ignorance. With the abundance of great literature that is available, it's difficult for me to understand why comic books would appeal to people. Someone whose first language is not English might find comic books useful as a primer to help them learn the language. And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of comics in favor of better reading material. However, I was never a fan of comics in any form even as a youth. I found them all to be very boring. But perhaps you have been able to glean some literary genius in comic books that I failed to discover.

As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors? I understand that comic books do appeal to some people and the audience is apparently very large. It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.

Read volume one of Neil Gaiman's Sandman. There are ten total (and a few spin-offs, but the main series is contained in the ten volumes). It belongs on the same bookshelf as any of the great authors. He has since found great success with novels like Stardust and American Gods, but Sandman will probably always be what he is most associated with.
 

hopemax

Well-Known Member
It actually belies my own ignorance. With the abundance of great literature that is available, it's difficult for me to understand why comic books would appeal to people. Someone whose first language is not English might find comic books useful as a primer to help them learn the language. And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of comics in favor of better reading material. However, I was never a fan of comics in any form even as a youth. I found them all to be very boring. But perhaps you have been able to glean some literary genius in comic books that I failed to discover.

As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors? I understand that comic books do appeal to some people and the audience is apparently very large. It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.

My husband has started reading comic books again, starting with the Serenity series after the cancellation of Firefly, then Jim Butcher started doing a Dresden Files series, so he got those. Then Disney bought Marvel and all the movies, reinvigorated his interest in Spiderman (which he did read as a kid). So he's been working his way through the Marvel "Essentials" compilations, and has also started buying the Star Wars series (not all the character ones, just the main SW).

Mostly, the comics are his pre-bed reading. Because after reading on the bus for 45 min on the way to work, a half hour at lunch, and 45 min on the bus back home he wants a change of pace. The goal is something that lets him turn his brain off, after being engaged all day. Usually, he's reading 3 regular books at once. A light, classic sci-fi novel which is his "bathroom" reading, something dense (usually American History, think Shelby Foote level of denseness), and then alternates between various historical fiction / alternate history / sci-fi series, and lighter density American History (just finished Boys in the Boat).
 

ProfSavage

Well-Known Member
As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors? I understand that comic books do appeal to some people and the audience is apparently very large. It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.

That doesn't sound pretentious at all... I like both hard scifi and comics. Don't follow Marvel or DC as much, because of the convoluted storylines and retcons, that are hard to keep up with, but graphic novels are definitely "with merit."

Before you dismiss all graphic novels and comics as for kids or illiterates, I suggest you check out the following: Watchmen/V for Vendetta by Alan Moore. Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo. Sandman by Neil Gaiman. Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. And the current ongoing Star Wars comic series.

Grensback may be the "father of science fiction," but most of his works are regarded as pulpy throwaways of a bygone era, and Matheson is know more for his tv and the movies his books are based on than his written work. And, as much as I like Wells and Vernes and Poe and Bradbury, those are just gateway drugs to the better stuff. While still good, its the stuff they teach in school that everyone reads.

I like the deeper stuff. For my money, the Dune series is the best scifi series ever written and Philip K. Dick being the best scifi author, in my opinion. Also, basically all of Heinlein's stuff is pretty damn good too, as well as Lovecraft.

*steps off soapbox*
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
That doesn't sound pretentious at all... I like both hard scifi and comics. Don't follow Marvel or DC as much, because of the convoluted storylines and retcons, that are hard to keep up with, but graphic novels are definitely "with merit."

Before you dismiss all graphic novels and comics as for kids or illiterates, I suggest you check out the following: Watchmen/V for Vendetta by Alan Moore. Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo. Sandman by Neil Gaiman. Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. And the current ongoing Star Wars comic series.

Grensback may be the "father of science fiction," but most of his works are regarded as pulpy throwaways of a bygone era, and Matheson is know more for his tv and the movies his books are based on than his written work. And, as much as I like Wells and Vernes and Poe and Bradbury, those are just gateway drugs to the better stuff. While still good, its the stuff they teach in school that everyone reads.

I like the deeper stuff. For my money, the Dune series is the best scifi series ever written and Philip K. **** being the best scifi author, in my opinion. Also, basically all of Heinlein's stuff is pretty damn good too, as well as Lovecraft.

*steps off soapbox*
That doesn't sound pretentious at all... I like both hard scifi and comics. Don't follow Marvel or DC as much, because of the convoluted storylines and retcons, that are hard to keep up with, but graphic novels are definitely "with merit."

Before you dismiss all graphic novels and comics as for kids or illiterates, I suggest you check out the following: Watchmen/V for Vendetta by Alan Moore. Akira by Katsuhiro Otomo. Sandman by Neil Gaiman. Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi. And the current ongoing Star Wars comic series.

Grensback may be the "father of science fiction," but most of his works are regarded as pulpy throwaways of a bygone era, and Matheson is know more for his tv and the movies his books are based on than his written work. And, as much as I like Wells and Vernes and Poe and Bradbury, those are just gateway drugs to the better stuff. While still good, its the stuff they teach in school that everyone reads.

I like the deeper stuff. For my money, the Dune series is the best scifi series ever written and Philip K. **** being the best scifi author, in my opinion. Also, basically all of Heinlein's stuff is pretty damn good too, as well as Lovecraft.

*steps off soapbox*

Don't forget Harry Harrison's 'Stainless Steel Rat' series with James Bolivar DeGriz and the lovely but homicidal Angelina or his other great book 'Bill the Galactic Hero'

Not to mention Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's 'Known Space' and Ringworld books as for Lovecraft "The Haunter of the Dark" is probably the scariest short story ever written.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
With the abundance of great literature that is available, it's difficult for me to understand why comic books would appeal to people.

And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of comics in favor of better reading material.

As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors?

It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.

This is the funniest thing I have seen on here in a good long time. Like, nearly frightening in how ironic it is, considering where the discussion is taking place. And the kicker is, I think you are totally serious and completely oblivious to how silly you sound.

Because I am rather sure you don't see this - I'll use your own words to explain:

"With the abundance of great travel locations that are available, it's difficult for me to understand why theme parks would appeal to people.

And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of theme parks in favor of better travel destinations.

As a practical matter why would I spend time visiting a theme park when I could instead visit the historical locations and museums of Washington DC, New York City and it's abundance of culture, the great natural wonders like the Grand Canyon, or for similar prices to what WDW costs today, travel to the real France, UK, or Spain, among countless other travel destinations?

It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of theme parks. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.
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DisneyDebRob

Well-Known Member
It actually belies my own ignorance. With the abundance of great literature that is available, it's difficult for me to understand why comic books would appeal to people. Someone whose first language is not English might find comic books useful as a primer to help them learn the language. And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of comics in favor of better reading material. However, I was never a fan of comics in any form even as a youth. I found them all to be very boring. But perhaps you have been able to glean some literary genius in comic books that I failed to discover.

As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors? I understand that comic books do appeal to some people and the audience is apparently very large. It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.
Just wow.
 

Kate F

Well-Known Member
It actually belies my own ignorance. With the abundance of great literature that is available, it's difficult for me to understand why comic books would appeal to people. Someone whose first language is not English might find comic books useful as a primer to help them learn the language. And, of course, the target juvenile audience I suppose is a given but I would think that most people (as their intellect develops) would naturally dispose of comics in favor of better reading material. However, I was never a fan of comics in any form even as a youth. I found them all to be very boring. But perhaps you have been able to glean some literary genius in comic books that I failed to discover.

As a practical matter why would I spend time reading comic books when I could instead read Jules Verne, Edgar Allen Poe, H.G. Wells, Ray Bradbury, Richard Matheson and Hugo Gernsback among countless other notable authors? I understand that comic books do appeal to some people and the audience is apparently very large. It just amazes me that some fans can get so engrossed in the details associated with the world of comic books. I wonder if they are also rabid fans of professional wrestling as the two pursuits seem to be of equal merit.
After your Godzilla ToT suggestion, I don't know how anyone on this site can still take you seriously.
 

BiffyClyro

Well-Known Member
I have faith in it. It amazes me how negative everyone is on here and then when things open you all are all over it. Think positive., don't be such a Francis.
 

Quinnmac000

Well-Known Member
Would think universal has first shot at Godzilla with Legendary doing the movies.

Toho owns all Godzilla rights including film period. It is just licensed to Legendary. However Universal already has a close relationship with Toho so it shouldn't be a problem.

But also why use Godzilla when they already have Pacific Rim. Anyways we are getting off Topic but Godzilla will never ever happen to ToT.
 

imperius

Well-Known Member
Toho owns all Godzilla rights including film period. It is just licensed to Legendary. However Universal already has a close relationship with Toho so it shouldn't be a problem.

But also why use Godzilla when they already have Pacific Rim. Anyways we are getting off Topic but Godzilla will never ever happen to ToT.
Of course Toho has all day, but they have the working relationship.

But back to TOT
 

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