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Manor of Mysteries: Project Zero [Open Brainstorming]
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ThemeParkPriest
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Hey everyone, let's get the brainstorm juices flowing!
There hasn't been much feedback since I posted my ideas last night. If you don't like them, then propose something else! We've gotta think about ideas for the nature trail, too.
There hasn't been much feedback since I posted my ideas last night. If you don't like them, then propose something else! We've gotta think about ideas for the nature trail, too.
Disney Dad 3000
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I liked your idea of doing an Indy coaster. Either that or a boat to differentiate from just reusing the ride system. For either one though, I'd advocate doing both entirely indoors. The park needs it from an ops perspective, and it keeps with the way the park is laid out where guests only see the settings, theming and the animals with the attractions something that needs to be explored out of sight (short of EE for the most part).
I'm working on something following Disney's potential plan, but for this prompt, I'd think about completely rearranging the place, especially if the EMV is not being used.
- Place the Indy coaster/boat/etc. where PW was, and part of the Dino USA games area set in a Guatemalan jungle/temple so that it's more easily connected to the former boneyard that gets a slight retheme to blend in.
- Or only the Boneyard is Indy and a completely original, non-IP attraction is built.
- Between that and the former Dino show building is the animal trail, maybe even partially incorporated into an outdoor portion of the Indy queue providing good back of house access to the animals.
- Include Costa Rican Jaguars (endangered and big conservation efforts), Colombian capybara, etc.
- Restaurantaosaurus perhaps becomes a Costa Rican restaurant built into the jungle.
- Angel Falls, Venezuela becomes the backdrop at the back edge of the old Dinosaur show building as a good weenie seen from both entrances into the land and away from EE sightlines
- Up doesn't have to be used, but good location for a Kevin M&G
- Include whatever Encanto presence (or non-IP ride) is desired and probably room for at least 2 flat rides in the space IP or Non-IP (one of which could be Encanto if not doing a dark ride for it)
- I think this provides a nice logical and real-world flow from lower Central America (Guatemala/Costa Rica) to northern S. America (Colombia/Venezuela) as you enter the back of the land.
ThemeParkPriest
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Wow, that's really well thought out! Perhaps it's a little more than what the space can reasonably offer, but that's okay (we can always cut things later).
Fair point about keeping the attractions inside. If we do an Indy boat ride, it would need to be something more exciting than Navii River Journey. Perhaps a 2-level Pirates-style ride would do the trick? Mummy shows us that an indoor Indy roller coaster could work.
Sounds fine about the Restaurantaousaurus and animal trail.
Up seems like it could work here even if it's just as a Meet and Greet.
Diplomacy Dog
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Ok, what culture are we basing the Indy thing on? In this area, we have the Maya, Aztec, Zapotec, Inca, and Muisca among others. I for one am definitely for Maya or Aztec!
Architectural Guinea Pig
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For inspiration, check out Team Cassie’s South America: World of Talokan at AK for the What If.. Comp!
cdunlap
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I KNOW I said that I wasn’t participating, but this IS THE BEST CONCEPT!
Diplomacy Dog
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Some Ideas:
The Indy Ride could totally work as a coaster, given they have mine cart theming. I don’t know what to theme it to, though. I feel like we could totally use scenes from Tokyo Disney’s Indy ride, but give them a unique spin!
Change the Boneyard into a newly discovered archaeological site that Indiana Jones is exploring with interactive games based on Maya mythology for guests to play, under the pretense of the games being vital to help Indy learn the secrets of the Maya. Guests could play a ball game with the Lords Of The Underworld in a tomb, play a game with Maya musical instruments with Hun Batz, one of two Howler Monkey Gods, in a temple, fly past obstacles in a cave with the Bat God Camazotz, explore a pyramid in search of the maize used to form people with Kukulkan, the Feathered Serpent, and even help Chaac, the rain god, create the rain. Now, these should all be child friendly depictions that aren't scary, despite coming from one of the darkest mythologies out there. If we do this, I think I can handle it! (Took inspiration from Talokan for this!)
The animal trail could totally work as one trail with a Multinational theme, but I think that if we made 2 trails, one for Central America and one for South America, it would be more unique and immersive. Both should have rainforest theming with no particular cultures, ancient or modern, in mind.
The Encanto ride could be a trackless ride through Antonio’s room and Isabela’s room that showcases plants and animals from South America.
The village from Encanto with its vibrant buildings is perfect for a shopping area similar to Harambe Marketplace in Africa. We could even have an Open Air Market, much like many places in Latin America!
The Indy Ride could totally work as a coaster, given they have mine cart theming. I don’t know what to theme it to, though. I feel like we could totally use scenes from Tokyo Disney’s Indy ride, but give them a unique spin!
Change the Boneyard into a newly discovered archaeological site that Indiana Jones is exploring with interactive games based on Maya mythology for guests to play, under the pretense of the games being vital to help Indy learn the secrets of the Maya. Guests could play a ball game with the Lords Of The Underworld in a tomb, play a game with Maya musical instruments with Hun Batz, one of two Howler Monkey Gods, in a temple, fly past obstacles in a cave with the Bat God Camazotz, explore a pyramid in search of the maize used to form people with Kukulkan, the Feathered Serpent, and even help Chaac, the rain god, create the rain. Now, these should all be child friendly depictions that aren't scary, despite coming from one of the darkest mythologies out there. If we do this, I think I can handle it! (Took inspiration from Talokan for this!)
The animal trail could totally work as one trail with a Multinational theme, but I think that if we made 2 trails, one for Central America and one for South America, it would be more unique and immersive. Both should have rainforest theming with no particular cultures, ancient or modern, in mind.
The Encanto ride could be a trackless ride through Antonio’s room and Isabela’s room that showcases plants and animals from South America.
The village from Encanto with its vibrant buildings is perfect for a shopping area similar to Harambe Marketplace in Africa. We could even have an Open Air Market, much like many places in Latin America!
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ThemeParkPriest
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Is there a way to do it without monkey and bat gods?
Diplomacy Dog
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Well, we could always say that they’re “Nahuals”. Nahuals are an idea that Aztecs and Mayas shared. It basically boils down to “animal spirits”.
Diplomacy Dog
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More Ideas:
Have a small Central American village with an open air market on the same side as the Mayan site/temple ride and have the village from Encanto with houses serving as shops near the Casita.
Put the main path in between Central and South America to act as a sort of transition between the two continents.
Make the transitions from Asia and Discovery Island as smooth as the transitions between lands at any other Disney Park by using vibrantly painted Indian style houses that naturally transition into vibrantly painted Spanish Colonial houses on Asia’s side and vividly painted Spanish Colonial Houses on Discovery Island’s side.
Replace Theater In The Wild with a small, winding path themed to the Amazon rainforest separate from the main Nature Path and put jaguars, poison frogs, tree frogs, caimans, monkeys, and snakes among Amazonian plants.
Give the Temple Coaster an original, Non-Indy story about discovering a long lost Maya tomb after avoiding many traps, like darts, spikes, ax wielding statues, collapsing floors, bugs, bats, snakes, and spiders.
I have a name for the Boneyard Replacement. I think we should call it Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple Of The Wayob (We will be using the term “Way/Wayob”, (Pronounced Why/Why-ohb), meaning “Spirit/Spirits”, to refer to Maya deities in order to keep things the usual level of secularism Disney is known for.
Have a Day of the Dead kite festival every November 1st and 2nd in the Central American Village to celebrate the Guatemalan Culture found in the cities of Santiago Sacatepequez and Sumpango. Here Guatemalans come from all over displaying extremely large and brightly colored kites. They can range up to 40m in diameter and are made of cloth and paper with bamboo frames. They fly these kites in honor of the dead, but also they can contain inspirational messages. Another special thing around Day Of The Dead in the park is the selling of Guatemalan Worry Dolls, Textiles, and other Maya folk art.
Have a small Central American village with an open air market on the same side as the Mayan site/temple ride and have the village from Encanto with houses serving as shops near the Casita.
Put the main path in between Central and South America to act as a sort of transition between the two continents.
Make the transitions from Asia and Discovery Island as smooth as the transitions between lands at any other Disney Park by using vibrantly painted Indian style houses that naturally transition into vibrantly painted Spanish Colonial houses on Asia’s side and vividly painted Spanish Colonial Houses on Discovery Island’s side.
Replace Theater In The Wild with a small, winding path themed to the Amazon rainforest separate from the main Nature Path and put jaguars, poison frogs, tree frogs, caimans, monkeys, and snakes among Amazonian plants.
Give the Temple Coaster an original, Non-Indy story about discovering a long lost Maya tomb after avoiding many traps, like darts, spikes, ax wielding statues, collapsing floors, bugs, bats, snakes, and spiders.
I have a name for the Boneyard Replacement. I think we should call it Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple Of The Wayob (We will be using the term “Way/Wayob”, (Pronounced Why/Why-ohb), meaning “Spirit/Spirits”, to refer to Maya deities in order to keep things the usual level of secularism Disney is known for.
Have a Day of the Dead kite festival every November 1st and 2nd in the Central American Village to celebrate the Guatemalan Culture found in the cities of Santiago Sacatepequez and Sumpango. Here Guatemalans come from all over displaying extremely large and brightly colored kites. They can range up to 40m in diameter and are made of cloth and paper with bamboo frames. They fly these kites in honor of the dead, but also they can contain inspirational messages. Another special thing around Day Of The Dead in the park is the selling of Guatemalan Worry Dolls, Textiles, and other Maya folk art.
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Architectural Guinea Pig
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Can someone list out what attractions, dining, shopping we’re going to have, with maybe a small description to go with them? With it, I can get started on a map.
Diplomacy Dog
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We have The Lost Tomb, a coaster-dark ride inside of a pyramid themed to discovering a Maya king’s tomb in a trap filled temple replacing DINOSAUR, Indiana Jones Adventure: Temple Of The Wayob, a Maya ruins themed interactive play area replacing the boneyard, Antonio’s Animal Adventure, a trackless ride through Antonio’s Room, showcasing Colombian nature, Cafe De Selva, a restaurant built into the Jungle serving Costa Rican cuisine, a Guatemalan village with shops, the Encanto village with shops, a small trail themed to an abandoned rubber factory in the Amazon replacing Theater In The Wild, a replica of Angel Falls as the landmark (Think Everest in Asia or the Tree!), and a large trail replacing the Dino trail! I feel that my idea would be how this land would go if Joe Rohde made this land!
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ThemeParkPriest
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I was MIA the last few days. Anyways, it doesn't seem like we had decided on the ride type for Indiana Jones. Although some suggestion had been put to a roller coaster, there was also some consideration to a water ride (perhaps Pirates style). I think the type of story you want to tell would sort of dictate which system to use. If you want to immerse people in a setting, Pirates is a great way to go. If you want to focus on thrill and suspense, then Mummy roller coaster is a great way.
Architectural Guinea Pig
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IMO I would love an Encanto boat ride which ends with the butterfly paradise area
ThemeParkPriest
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So, I think it goes without saying that we're not going to go with 2 water rides in the land. So we decide either Encanto boat ride or Indiana Jones boat ride or neither.
It looks like I'm not going to be work on anything til Saturday. I think pushing back the deadline a day or two would be helpful.
ThemeParkPriest
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As much as I would have wanted to have heard more extensive pitches, let's go ahead with assigning roles. To keep it simpler, let's just make Indy the roller coaster. Who wants what role?
- Presentation (probably Google Slides):?
- Indy Roller Coaster (replacing Primevil Whirl): ?
- Encanto Boat Ride (replacing Dinosaur area): ?
- Animal Trail: ?
- Cafe de Selva Restaurant: ?
- Shops (Guatemalen): ?
cdunlap
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I thought I told you guys that I was not going to be able to do this.