Man Accused of Stealing Buzzy's Clothing from Disney World Arrested

[Sir_Cliff]

He's still firing away on twitter in the wee hours of the morning.

Good lord, he's melodramatic: "I proved it for myself and for EPCOT Center!"

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

If you knew what working at WDW was actually like, the proposed scenario isn't all that impossible.

I don't doubt communication at a company as large as Walt Disney can become a cluster fudge. But why would detectives continue to pursue it and mention in a report written in May and reply to a journalist's email in May that the animatronic was stolen?

if this was an internal error and Buzzy's been sitting in a shop since Dec, I can't imagine the company would let law enforcement think Buzzy was missing for half a year because department heads goofed up. You'd notify police buzzy, your $120,000k Robot had been recovered.

 

[glawio]

Is Hoot Gibson okay? I am really kind of concerned about him. I don't feel like people simply asking for clarification on a confusing case when someone mentions they have the resolution is good reason to...act like that.

Idk why he couldn't just say "hey I saw what I saw and I don't know what's up with the police report" so I'm just wondering if he's doing okay...

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

Is Hoot Gibson okay? I am really kind of concerned about him. I don't feel like people simply asking for clarification on a confusing case when someone mentions they have the resolution is good reason to...act like that.

Idk why he couldn't just say "hey I saw what I saw and I don't know what's up with the police report" so I'm just wondering if he's doing okay...

What If P Spikes is about to name him and he's trying to get Distwitter on his side before it hits the fan?


I am kidding... but those were some feisty tweets.

 

[glawio]

What If P Spikes is about to name him and he's trying to get Distwitter on his side before it hits the fan?


I am kidding... but those were some feisty tweets.

I was wondering if perhaps Spikes lead the police to the person who had Buzzy as part of a plea deal or to get back at people. But Gibson claims Buzzy has been at Epcot this whole time...

Until we have a pic of Buzzy, like an actual photo that shows he is in the lab or in a warehouse or wherever he is, I'm inclined to go with the actual police documents. Wish Gibson could have described what shape he was in/if he had gotten new clothes etc

 

[Dragonman]

I’m pretty sure I heard the clothes were recovered possibly.

 

[GlacierGlacier]

Is Hoot Gibson okay? I am really kind of concerned about him. I don't feel like people simply asking for clarification on a confusing case when someone mentions they have the resolution is good reason to...act like that.

Idk why he couldn't just say "hey I saw what I saw and I don't know what's up with the police report" so I'm just wondering if he's doing okay...

Hoot's always been a bit... Off his rocker on Twitter. He's got some great things to say about historical attractions, and even some insight into new stuff. But he also uses logical fallacies and makes very blunt and sometimes odd statements about the parks and management as a whole.

His is definitely a Twitter account you must be careful when reading

 

[marni1971]

I do find the nonsensical ramblings of concern about a robot amusing. And I think everyone should be reminded of just how incredibly mind melting this discussion is.

We also talk about bathroom wall tile shapes.

 

[Brer Oswald]

I’m pretty sure I heard the clothes were recovered possibly.

By Disney? Gosh no.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't doubt communication at a company as large as Walt Disney can become a cluster fudge. But why would detectives continue to pursue it and mention in a report written in May and reply to a journalist's email in May that the animatronic was stolen?

if this was an internal error and Buzzy's been sitting in a shop since Dec, I can't imagine the company would let law enforcement think Buzzy was missing for half a year because department heads goofed up. You'd notify police buzzy, your $120,000k Robot had been recovered.

Even internally there are different entities that legally own different assets. An asset being recovered doesn’t automatically mean you don’t want to know who did what, especially if they might be connected to other thefts.

 

[justintheharris]

If you knew what working at WDW was actually like, the proposed scenario isn't all that impossible.

First, bold of you to assume I don’t know what’s it like to work at Disney. More importantly, the theory’s primary pusher was a guy suspected of stealing him. You expect me to believe that ridiculous story?? Or just that he stole Buzzy. Remember, Occam’s razor. Utilize it.

 

[marni1971]

 

[Bleed0range]

By Disney? Gosh no.

Don’t you mean Gawrsh?

 

[lazyboy97o]

First, bold of you to assume I don’t know what’s it like to work at Disney. More importantly, the theory’s primary pusher was a guy suspected of stealing him. You expect me to believe that ridiculous story?? Or just that he stole Buzzy. Remember, Occam’s razor. Utilize it.

It’s not bold. You keep making the same incorrect statements regarding Disney’s internal structure and operations.

 

[justintheharris]

It’s not bold. You keep making the same incorrect statements regarding Disney’s internal structure and operations.

And which structure are you referring to? I’m not saying anything regarding their structure. I’m saying the idea that one division of Disney (Division A) removed Buzzy and a different division (that couldn’t be completely unrelated to Division A given that they’re also are affiliated with WOL) reported him stolen without consulting ANY other division and that the police ALSO didn’t consult any other division before finalizing the report AND ON TOP OF THAT, Disney is allowing the police department to still claim he’s stolen despite him still being in Disney’s possession because apparently division A hasn’t heard about the report is a completely outrageous and ridiculous premise. ESPECIALLY when it’s primary pusher is the man suspected of stealing the animatronic. Is it possible that Disney did it and is having a legendary communication error? I guess... but there’s also a possibility that a hurricane next month will completely wipe Disney World off the map. Being possible doesn’t mean it’s remotely likely. Buzzy was stolen. That statement should be accepted as fact. It’s in multiple affidavits and Disney hasn’t bothered to correct them.

 

[Tom Morrow]

First, bold of you to assume I don’t know what’s it like to work at Disney. More importantly, the theory’s primary pusher was a guy suspected of stealing him. You expect me to believe that ridiculous story?? Or just that he stole Buzzy. Remember, Occam’s razor. Utilize it.

I'm not sure how "an operation is so big and segmented that one department might not communicate well with another, leading to mistakes" is more crazy than "a guy without any proper construction equipment or team or know-how (he was an a/v tech, not a construction worker or mechanic) was able to remove an adult-sized, several hundred pound piece of equipment (plus chair) from 10 feet in the air and also smuggle it out."

 

[GhostlyGoofy]

I'm not sure how "an operation is so big and segmented that one department might not communicate well with another, leading to mistakes" is more crazy than "a guy without any proper construction equipment or team or know-how (he was an a/v tech, not a construction worker or mechanic) was able to remove an adult-sized, several hundred pound piece of equipment (plus chair) from 10 feet in the air and also smuggle it out."

How do we know there was no team? Haunted mansion was done with an accomplice. Who knows how many fake employee id badges spikes made to get people in for tasks like this? Right now we don't even know if spikes is the culprit, but he may have given them the keys to get in.

 

[justintheharris]

I'm not sure how "an operation is so big and segmented that one department might not communicate well with another, leading to mistakes" is more crazy than "a guy without any proper construction equipment or team or know-how (he was an a/v tech, not a construction worker or mechanic) was able to remove an adult-sized, several hundred pound piece of equipment (plus chair) from 10 feet in the air and also smuggle it out."

Okay let's use occam's razor. This principle is that the theory with the LEAST amount of new assumptions is more plausible.

For the theory in which Patrick stole Buzzy, we already know he had a fake ID printer and regularly snuck around backstage. So what must we assume at this point?:
1. Patrick had the means to steal Buzzy
2. Patrick was able to carry Buzzy out of Disney without causing any suspicion,

For the theory which you had described:
1. Disney wanted to do something new with Buzzy
2. Disney kept that information solely within one very small division and NO OTHER division
3. Another division reported him stolen without communicating with ANY other division
4. The division of Disney which knows that Buzzy has simply been removed has not found out about the police report and does not care to correct the affidavit.
5. There are no higher up divisions that are bothering to intervene in this miscommunication.
6. Buzzy is sitting somewhere on Disney property and nobody outside of the division that has removed him has managed to stumble upon him.
7. The man being accused of stealing Buzzy happens to know that this is exactly what's going on.

Which of those sounds more plausible to you? Are you seriously going to tell me that the latter of these two sounds more realistic?

 

[Disney Dad 3000]

Ya what kind of weirdo would still be up reading all of this? Oh, me. Still awake at 330am EST.

Haha. Yeah. No idea what kind of weirdo does that.

 

[kpilcher]

Okay let's use occam's razor. This principle is that the theory with the LEAST amount of new assumptions is more plausible.

For the theory in which Patrick stole Buzzy, we already know he had a fake ID printer and regularly snuck around backstage. So what must we assume at this point?:
1. Patrick had the means to steal Buzzy
2. Patrick was able to carry Buzzy out of Disney without causing any suspicion,

For the theory which you had described:
1. Disney wanted to do something new with Buzzy
2. Disney kept that information solely within one very small division and NO OTHER division
3. Another division reported him stolen without communicating with ANY other division
4. The division of Disney which knows that Buzzy has simply been removed has not found out about the police report and does not care to correct the affidavit.
5. There are no higher up divisions that are bothering to intervene in this miscommunication.
6. Buzzy is sitting somewhere on Disney property and nobody outside of the division that has removed him has managed to stumble upon him.
7. The man being accused of stealing Buzzy happens to know that this is exactly what's going on.

Which of those sounds more plausible to you? Are you seriously going to tell me that the latter of these two sounds more realistic?

I'm not saying Spikes did or did not steal the AA, but if another Disney division has Buzzy they would have told the Orange County Sheriff's Office by now, so no more resources would be spent investigating the theft. As of at least the Haunted Mansion heist, Buzzy was still part of two open investigations, and possibly played a role in several more.