Major Room Discounts Coming for Early Summer and Late Spring 2025

[lentesta]

Wdw - in particular - is a cash cow.

But that’s the problem…it’s too big of one…too big of a slice of the pie

So they’ve begun squeezing it at every seam. That’s how you get empty rooms at prices that aren’t reflective of the demand.

As part of an upcoming blog post I looked at WDW ticket, hotel, and food prices in 2011, 2018, and 2025.

A couple of interesting points (all prices adjusted for inflation):

• Ticket prices are up 33% since 2011 and 24% since 2018. (That's 33% above inflation.)
  • Also, Magic Kingdom wait times over Christmas were the lowest we've seen since 2010
• Value Resort hotel prices are up 29% since 2011 but flat since 2018
• Food prices are down 3% since 2018

It looks like Disney found its peak pricing around 2018 for food and hotels. They've not been able to increase prices faster than inflation since then.

It looks like they may have hit a pricing limit on tickets this year.

I know they care about revenue, not attendance. But that assumes they can increase prices at a ratio higher than attendance drops. And not for nothing, but small drops in attendance are magnified in lost revenue then.

That said, it looks like there's still room to raise Lightning Lane prices during peak times.

And there's always more DVC sales.

But wow, you have to wonder where additional WDW revenue streams are going to come from.

 

[monothingie]

These are not deep discounts. Nothing aggressive.

For the same Summer periods in previous years.

Max AP Discounts
2025 40%
2024 35%
2023 30%

Max General Public Discounts
2025 30% or Free Dining Option and Moderates included up to 30% Off
2024 30%
2023 25%
2022 None ($20-$100 off selective rooms per night)

 

[lentesta]

…that sticks out

Think they’ll finally get their heads out of their cans and offer the ticket incentives that were used for decades to keep people on property?

…nah…just so crazy it could work.

I'm pretty sure Yield Management is working on multi-phase projects to bring dynamic ticket and hotel pricing to WDW and DLR.

 

[monothingie]

But wow, you have to wonder where additional WDW revenue streams are going to come from.

I believe Josh is going to start table dancing for guests and all the tips will go to the company.

 

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[Sirwalterraleigh]

Same ole…this is not a serious effort to address the issue

The annual passholder offer is getting close…maybe?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

As part of an upcoming blog post I looked at WDW ticket, hotel, and food prices in 2011, 2018, and 2025.

A couple of interesting points (all prices adjusted for inflation):

• Ticket prices are up 33% since 2011 and 24% since 2018. (That's 33% above inflation.)
  • Also, Magic Kingdom wait times over Christmas were the lowest we've seen since 2010
• Value Resort hotel prices are up 29% since 2011 but flat since 2018
• Food prices are down 3% since 2018

It looks like Disney found its peak pricing around 2018 for food and hotels. They've not been able to increase prices faster than inflation since then.

It looks like they may have hit a pricing limit on tickets this year.

I know they care about revenue, not attendance. But that assumes they can increase prices at a ratio higher than attendance drops. And not for nothing, but small drops in attendance are magnified in lost revenue then.

That said, it looks like there's still room to raise Lightning Lane prices during peak times.

And there's always more DVC sales.

But wow, you have to wonder where additional WDW revenue streams are going to come from.

Thank you…

Anyone want to go back to the “the parks are mobbed ” and “I think it’s a good value…” standardized stupidity?

…or can we do the big boy/big girls discussions here?

None…of us want pressure on the parks…and we all want to have a good time.

Getting Burbank’s head out of its *** is a good idea

 

[JD80]

The one thing people have to consider is that every 5% increase in a rack rate discount is .. $5 per $100 of the room cost. I think sometimes people see "Oh wow usually it's 20% but it's now 30%!" but then realize that's only an extra $30 off per night of a $300 room.

Disney will happily give you an extra $30 a day if that means you go one more day to the parks or just book your trip at all.

$30 per day for a whole family is the cost of two Whopper meals at Burger King at the Biden Rest Stop in Delaware off of 95.

 

[JoeCamel]

The one thing people have to consider is that every 5% increase in a rack rate discount is .. $5 per $100 of the room cost. I think sometimes people see "Oh wow usually it's 20% but it's now 30%!" but then realize that's only an extra $30 off per night of a $300 room.

Disney will happily give you an extra $30 a day if that means you go one more day to the parks or just book your trip at all.

$30 per day for a whole family is the cost of two Whopper meals at Burger King at the Biden Rest Stop in Delaware off of 95.

Just had to drag politics into it.....

 

[monothingie]

The one thing people have to consider is that every 5% increase in a rack rate discount is .. $5 per $100 of the room cost. I think sometimes people see "Oh wow usually it's 20% but it's now 30%!" but then realize that's only an extra $30 off per night of a $300 room.

Disney will happily give you an extra $30 a day if that means you go one more day to the parks or just book your trip at all.

$30 per day for a whole family is the cost of two Whopper meals at Burger King at the Biden Rest Stop in Delaware off of 95.

The difference between 35% and 40% off of a $900 Rack Rate Deluxe room over 5 nights is $225 which is not insignificant.

The real question is, how can they be still making money on a room listed for $900 that they're discounting to $540?....Unless....

@Sirwalterraleigh you have an answer?

 

[JD80]

The difference between 35% and 40% off of a $900 Rack Rate Deluxe room over 5 nights is $225 which is not insignificant.

The real question is, how can they be still making money on a room listed for $900 that they're discounting to $540?....Unless....

@Sirwalterraleigh you have an answer?

$225 over 5 nights is pretty insignificant. Especially for someone considering a $500-$900 a night room.

 

[Jrb1979]

While the room discounts are a nice as is the free dining, it doesn't help that tickets are still too expensive. For my family of 4 to go in summer with and only 5 days with no hoppers is $3300 in Canadian dollars. Its hard no considering our season passes to all Six Flags parks is $800 for season. It's a much better value.

 

[bmr1591]

Hotel occupancy for the last few years with very similar inventory is at roughly 85%. Peak WDW in 2019 was 90% with the previous years before that hovering between 87% and 89%.

There is no problem filling up rooms. There is an effort to fill up the last few percentages.

Edit: this is from SEC filings.

Edit2: Discounts are the same as always, the main difference is their availability earlier and with increased inventory.

Curious, but are those numbers for ALL hotel rooms or simply the ones available? If they label entire wings as 'down for maintenance', for instance, then could they say those aren't actual rooms for reporting, leading to higher numbers, though a bit deceptive?


Honestly, I think we can all agree the biggest issue is DVC. You can't lower the rack rate, no matter how overpriced it is, when you incentivized people to spend $30,000+ because they could save after so many years. The lower those rack rates go, the less incentive there is for DVC. Can't have that.

 

[monothingie]

Curious, but are those numbers for ALL hotel rooms or simply the ones available? If they label entire wings as 'down for maintenance', for instance, then could they say those aren't actual rooms for reporting, leading to higher numbers, though a bit deceptive?


Honestly, I think we can all agree the biggest issue is DVC. You can't lower the rack rate, no matter how overpriced it is, when you incentivized people to spend $30,000+ because they could save after so many years. The lower those rack rates go, the less incentive there is for DVC. Can't have that.

That's why you've seen nothing but DVC being built or planned. The last major hotel expansion for Destino Tower, which was only to make the resort more appealing to business/convention clientele. I'm not counting the SW Hotel because it closed because it wasn't a "hotel" comparatively speaking.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

While the room discounts are a nice as is the free dining, it doesn't help that tickets are still too expensive. For my family of 4 to go in summer with and only 5 days with no hoppers is $3300 in Canadian dollars. Its hard no considering our season passes to all Six Flags parks is $800 for season. It's a much better value.

Correct…ticket prices are still off the reservation

Not to mention the palpable, growing distaste for elaborate, limited line skip schemes created from an intentional constriction of supply

 

[JD80]

While the room discounts are a nice as is the free dining, it doesn't help that tickets are still too expensive. For my family of 4 to go in summer with and only 5 days with no hoppers is $3300 in Canadian dollars. Its hard no considering our season passes to all Six Flags parks is $800 for season. It's a much better value.

This I can agree with. Tickets have risen the most over the last decade. Hotels and Food are relatively flat for the most part, especially over the last 3-4 years.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Let me help translate for the dust impaired:

Len said “lowest wait times since 2010 at magic kingdom”

Does that trip any sensors?

Here’s why it should:
1. The wait times are no longer reflective of the attendance levels…bogged down due to the overcomplicated Frankenstein fast pass system they’re peddling
2. 2010 - lest we forget - was the BOTTOM of the housing crash…when they were scraping by on Florida residents and dvc.

That’s a hell of a damning benchmark

 

[JD80]

Curious, but are those numbers for ALL hotel rooms or simply the ones available? If they label entire wings as 'down for maintenance', for instance, then could they say those aren't actual rooms for reporting, leading to higher numbers, though a bit deceptive?


Honestly, I think we can all agree the biggest issue is DVC. You can't lower the rack rate, no matter how overpriced it is, when you incentivized people to spend $30,000+ because they could save after so many years. The lower those rack rates go, the less incentive there is for DVC. Can't have that.

It's an SEC filing. Compare Available Room nights. 2019 vs. 2024 was around 160,000 room night difference.

vs.

 

[JD80]

That's why you've seen nothing but DVC being built or planned. The last major hotel expansion for Destino Tower, which was only to make the resort more appealing to business/convention clientele. I'm not counting the SW Hotel because it closed because it wasn't a "hotel" comparatively speaking.

You build for demand. There is a demand for DVC, I'm not sure what the demand would be for another Mod or Value no matter how much I'd love to see a moderate resort that has more 6-8 people family suites at decent rates like a Great Wolf Lodge.

 

[Ayla]

I'm pretty sure Yield Management is working on multi-phase projects to bring dynamic ticket and hotel pricing to WDW and DLR.

They already have prices based on dates.