Main Street U.S.A. concrete replacement project begins tomorrow

mickeysaver

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It may not be a question of safety but rather easier traffic flow for busy periods as well as park closing crowds. It is very difficult to maneuver down Main Street with my son in his wheelchair stroller when we have to be on either the street (full of obstacles such as trolley tracks) or the sidewalk (obstacles such as street lamps and trash cans). It would much easier if we didn't have to worry about multiple levels. Although I admit I am not sure I like the idea of no sidewalks in terms of asthetics.

I too had the first thought that this was more about traffic flow. I have an ECV that I use at the parks. When the crowds are higher it can be difficult to navigate the sidewalks safely because you get stuck at choke points near the accessibility ramps down to street level. I have seen people accidentally jump the curbs when the lights are low because you just can't see well enough to know that you aren't in the right place. I have seen people jump the curbs due to lack of presence of mind too, but that is another story. I know that my scooter is a good solid machine, but I really don't know how much stunt driving it can take. lol
 

The Visionary Soul

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If they insist to remove little bits of the curbs here and there, they should just remove all the curbs at once and be done with it. Perhaps then someone with some actual design sense would insist on a suitable replacement, like a brick street or brick sidewalks, just to keep the contrast there.
 

wogwog

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If they insist to remove little bits of the curbs here and there, they should just remove all the curbs at once and be done with it. Perhaps then someone with some actual design sense would insist on a suitable replacement, like a brick street or brick sidewalks, just to keep the contrast there.

Not in the plan. They are already rebuilding the street, one small slab at a time at night, as well as the sidewalks with the exact same material they take out. Just new and without all the cracks and holes. When it is finished all they will accomplish is wider ramps. Maybe a few more ramps will be constructed but no sign of that yet.
 

Otamin

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Not in the plan. They are already rebuilding the street, one small slab at a time at night, as well as the sidewalks with the exact same material they take out. Just new and without all the cracks and holes. When it is finished all they will accomplish is wider ramps. Maybe a few more ramps will be constructed but no sign of that yet.
It's a shame bricks won't be added, but it's certainly better than getting rid of all of the curbs like originally planned.
 

Goofyernmost

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Strictly my opinion here. No stolen plans or high level deep throats. I don't think that they ever planned on removing all the curbs to begin with. You are talking about major changes to make that happen. What kind of changes you ask? Well, I'm so glad you did, cause here are the hardships involved with doing that. First you want to see a major increase of lost balance falls, runaway strollers, etc., well imagine that all the sidewalks down Main Street would be tilted toward the level of the road in order to avoid a step up to the retail locations. That would make main street look more like a bowl then a street.

There are only two ways to fix that unless one is able to completely change gravity and so on. That would mean that they either have to raise the street to the level of the present sidewalks (about 6 inches) or lower the buildings to the levels of the streets. Adding depth to the street would mean rebuilding or eliminating the trolly tracks and would also add substantial weight to the utiladors that are under it. Just for the sake of argument lowering the buildings to be level would require jacking up the buildings, removing 6 inches from each and every foundation and again creating havoc with utiladors and utility lines.

So the only thing that can actually help the main street situation is to enlarge the ramped sections for wheelchairs and disabled access and, just like that, you have a more efficient Main Street and something that I'd be willing to bet the farm on, is exactly what is happening. Strike that last sentence...it sounds way to much like gambling.
 
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willtravel

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Update from a Main St cast. The street from Emporium is walled off down to the trolley tracks running along Town Square. The MS Trolley will not be running until the walls come down. Said to be about a 25 foot by 25 foot square area of the street. The old concrete is gone so I would expect new concrete poured over night. About a third of the sidewalk is still walled off on the curb side. No curb removed except for the small portion to widen the ramp at the corner.
Well at least I will still have a curb to sit on for watching parade. How far is this removal/replacement going to go? Where will it end?
 

Goofyernmost

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Because theme isn't important in a theme park....
I was actually reinforcing the thought that it was important, but since you want to take it a different way, then yes, a major external physical change such as the removal of the trolly tracks or painting the buildings pink with purple trim is different then what is sold or supplied in those buildings. It is what you see not what you eat that creates, I'm guessing, 95% of the atmosphere. If they supply Starbucks coffee or Nescafe Mud is really irrelevant, just like never expecting the menu to change based on demand. However, I do understand that for some it is part of it and important to them. We all have to adjust to something and we also have to place priorities, not everything is of equal importance.
 

TTA94

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Saw the alternate route the MSEP took skipping Town Square. Small change but interesting and rare to see.

Does anyone know if there will be other parade route changes coming soon? I am wondering how they will run parades when they start work on Main Street?

Is there changes coming to the hub area?
 

jjnshane

Active Member
If having a trolley run up and down the street is important for theme, why only have it out for only 1 hour instead of the entire day???

The trolley actually runs until about 12:20 -- the last Trolley Show of the day ends just before the 12:30 show of MiSiCi steps off, and does not come out the rest of the day. I have long suspected that the purpose of the trolley and other Main Street vehicles is to not only add theme and dimension to Main Street, but to also slow the stream of people racing to attractions. If Splash Mountain or Space Mountain get bombarded all at once, the wait time is outrageous. But if there is something on Main Street that slows that flood to a trickle every so often, then the crowds at the attractions are a bit more spread out. Look at the wait times of attractions on the parade route right after the parade passes by. They get flooded by people leaving the parade and going to the closest ride and will sometimes jump to over and hour wait. By slowing the people that are walking down Main Street in the morning, you help alleviate the flood of people to E tickets (and they might wander through the shops as well.) After 12:30 the number of people coming in the gate has lessened and they do not need to slow them down anymore. That is my theory, anyway. (And I love the Trolley Show and would hate to see it end!)
 

danlb_2000

Premium Member
Saw the alternate route the MSEP took skipping Town Square. Small change but interesting and rare to see.

Does anyone know if there will be other parade route changes coming soon? I am wondering how they will run parades when they start work on Main Street?

Is there changes coming to the hub area?

Yes, there are supposedly major changes coming to the hub area.
 

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