Main Street Bakery to Serve Starbucks Coffee

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
I agree.
We were promised a Main Street Bakery - that would just happen to serve Starbuck's coffee.
Wrong. We got a giant Starbucks (minus the intimate seating) that serves a handful of bakery goods.
I will not be wasting my time here. I'll fill my resort mug with Joffrey's (instead of Nescafe) and drink it in the car, as usual, and by-pass the crazy lines and long waits on Main Street - and head straight to the crazy lines and long waits everywhere else in the park.
We were always going to have a licensed Starbucks on Main Street. We were not promised a MSB serving Sbux coffee. The title of this thread was simply changed midway to the very misleading 'Bakery to Serve Starbucks Coffee', replacing the more correct original title. Or, 'MSB To Be Turned Into a Licensed Starbucks Store'.

Licensed Starbuckses are common. In fact, one in three Starbuckses is licensed. Ten thousand of them. The ones you find in airports, hospitals, shops, universities. And at UNI theme parks. And now at Disney Parkstm too. Hurrah for uniformity and monotony.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
How many people did the old Bakery meet the needs of when it was 90+degrees or during a rain storm. Actually it probably has more room for people during a storm then it had before.
Actually, that's a good point. The old MSB had entirely insufficent seating.

Although I don't see how the solution was to further reduce seating.
The - or 'a' - solution was to increase seating at the Bakery, and develop a killer coffee shop in the Tomorrowland Terrace, to cater to today's guest demands for coffee shops.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Agreed. Ticket prices are higher than "pretty reasonable" so guest experience should be higher. I can go to Starbucks at my local Target store. It won't make my trip any more magical to order the same pre packaged coffee cake at WDW that I can get a mile from my house any day of the week.

A poor argument. I'm pretty sure a wide variety of food and beverage served in WDW could be criticized for this same reason. I'm also sure I could find better food within a one mile radius of my house than in a WDW theme park. I expect in-park food to be good, not amazing, yet many Disney produced items are not. I don't see how Starbucks is worse.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
@emich88, is this true? Did the Cast Members revolt and leave over the MSB being turned into a Starbucks?

The bakery transformation was originally slated to re-open in May of this year; however, that didn’t happen. Only a month behind schedule, Starbucks has officially taken over the bakery. In the transition, Disney re-created this location and hand-pick their opening team of Cast Members just as they did for the new Be Our Guest Restaurant in New Fantasyland. Sadly, even with a bump in pay, many of the long-term bakery Cast Members didn’t wish to stay. In fact, rumor has it that it was quite difficult to staff this location.
 

emich88

Active Member
@emich88, is this true? Did the Cast Members revolt and leave over the MSB being turned into a Starbucks?

The bakery transformation was originally slated to re-open in May of this year; however, that didn’t happen. Only a month behind schedule, Starbucks has officially taken over the bakery. In the transition, Disney re-created this location and hand-pick their opening team of Cast Members just as they did for the new Be Our Guest Restaurant in New Fantasyland. Sadly, even with a bump in pay, many of the long-term bakery Cast Members didn’t wish to stay. In fact, rumor has it that it was quite difficult to staff this location.


Yes this is pretty much true. Majority of the original bakery cast was suppose to return, those who did quit during training... long story short. We do have a few original MSB cast, but they are mostly new.

Also, Disney originally only wanted to hire internally for this location. But not a lot of cast members applied, so they opened it up to new hires. So we have a nice mixture of people.

@emich88 do you know if this location will have Starbucks/Disney specific mugs? Every big city I go to Starbucks has their own specific city mug. Will this locale do that?


Well will indeed sell co-branded merchandise... maybe next year. I heard there is some legal issues that need to be sorted out. But they are coming!
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
A poor argument. I'm pretty sure a wide variety of food and beverage served in WDW could be criticized for this same reason. I'm also sure I could find better food within a one mile radius of my house than in a WDW theme park. I expect in-park food to be good, not amazing, yet many Disney produced items are not. I don't see how Starbucks is worse.
Item I can get anywhere outside WDW = Starbucks coffee.

Item I can't get outside WDW/Disney Parks = MSUSA Ciniman Roll.

What exactly again was keeping them from just adding Starbucks coffee to the menu instead of Nescafé?
 

PhotoDave219

Well-Known Member
I don't dispute that Starbucks is far better than Nescafe. I don't particularly like Starbucks, but I'd take it over Nescafe, no hesitation.

But I disagree on the quality of the work at the location, at least based on the photos. They've done better. They couldn't done better here. They didn't. They went for "pretty reasonable," whether you meant the phrase that way or not.

My photos (diff site) or the photos on this site? Because it looks pretty good to me?
 

Bryner84

Well-Known Member
Ok, so when this was announced I was firmly in the don't touch my MSB camp. Then a slew of people came in saying, "be reasonable, this will be well themed and will still be your MSB, just serving better coffee now!". I said ok, and I largely ignored the issue...and now here we are. The day has come when we get to see how our beloved bakery has fared, and you reasonable people were liars! It's a freaking Starbucks people! Reasonable people be darned....here's to continuing to be unreasonable!
 

Californian Elitist

Well-Known Member
A poor argument. I'm pretty sure a wide variety of food and beverage served in WDW could be criticized for this same reason. I'm also sure I could find better food within a one mile radius of my house than in a WDW theme park. I expect in-park food to be good, not amazing, yet many Disney produced items are not. I don't see how Starbucks is worse.


I can definitely get the same soda brands outside of Disney. For cheaper, too. I can also get Dreyer's ice cream and Dole pineapples outside of Disney as well.
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Item I can't get outside WDW/Disney Parks = MSUSA Ciniman Roll.

That's because most rolls of that type sold outside of WDW are better. Cinnabon kills all others in this regard.

I'm not sure when this religious type of worship for this roll started, but I sure could have used some of it when Disney themselves cut down on the number of breakfast offerings at the bakery by dropping my favourite French Toast Loaf.
 

emich88

Active Member
Can you give us the long story? Inquiring minds...

Really there isn't much more to this story haha... More of our internal casts dropped during training than our new cast did. The reason is because most of the internal thought this would be a simple job like most other Disney jobs. But it's not. There is a lot of information to know and a lot of training that goes into this. We went through the actual starbucks training which had stuffed added to by Disney.
 

englanddg

One Little Spark...
Which do you think matters more in the long run? Rabid fans of the parks, or Moms who went back home complaining they couldn't even get their daily Starbucks?

I don't like what was done, but I was never a fan of the Bakery (at least the most recent version of it)...I miss the OLD Main Street, and it was something I think Disneyland has done better than MK.

At least they have a Penny Arcade still. Granted, it's all one big shop like Emporium is, but they at least kept a few games in the front of the shop. At MK, they didn't even try.
 

articos

Well-Known Member
Not "pretty reasonable" quality. "Pretty reasonable" choice of theme. I was talking about the direction they went, not the quality thereof. I think the quality is spot on, with a dramatic improvement in the product itself. Dramatic.
I think there's a disconnect in communication here. You're referring to only the coffee product as dramatically improved, which is absolutely true. And it's absolutely true that having SB in the park will add a delicious coffee beverage that many, many people love. What the rest are saying - me included - is that it's not just about the coffee. It's the Main Street Bakery, a space that hearkens back to opening, and is ingrained in the memory of everyone who went to the Magic Kingdom as a kid, teen or adult in the 70s-90s. It's about the design, the location's history and the "bakery" aspect that has been lost to a very homogenized new space that's very similar to any normal Starbucks or franchised design anywhere in the country. We are bemoaning the loss of a space that was somewhat unique into something that's everywhere else outside the MK. The Bakery redo is nice enough, but it's not unique or special any longer, as I mentioned earlier in the thread. I think there's a large contingent who were hoping for an update of the space the way it was, or at least an update that included the feel of Main Street, which this does not have, utilizing Starbucks fixtures, not trying to mask the registers, etc. The materials used/design doesn't feel like Disney. It feels like simply a nice Starbucks on MSUSA, when it should have been just the Starbucks product incorporated into Disney's look and feel. Get what I mean?

It's the difference between the Ice Cream Parlor interior and this new interior. Massive difference in detail and theming.
 

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