MAGICal DLP News, Rumours & Thoughts

[cjkeating]

For some reason, the globe was switched off for when they unveiled it.

DLP has a weird habit of installing new/fixing effects and then not turning them on straight away.

The new Alice LED jumping fountains were testing months ago but only recently turned on. I wonder if there is some internal process that needs sign off for certain things?

 

[DCBaker]

 

[AndyS2992]

On a very busy day for 50 euros I might bite but not at 90. I always go in Winter when the parks are dead so will likely never need this anyway.

 

[marni1971]

This demonstrates how badly paid access has gone down in Paris. A small handful of attractions do okay with it but overall it’s been rejected. Thankfully.

Anaheim, watch your back.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

On a very busy day for 50 euros I might bite but not at 90. I always go in Winter when the parks are dead so will likely never need this anyway.

This is starting at 90 euros. So a busy summer day or school break it would cost even more.

 

[Franklin47disneyguy]

This is a fine system compared to wdw, if you wanna pay you. Less people will use this compared to legacy fp. I think this means shorter standby lines for the rest of us.

 

[Padraig]

This demonstrates how badly paid access has gone down in Paris. A small handful of attractions do okay with it but overall it’s been rejected. Thankfully.

Anaheim, watch your back.

Again, I was stunned how little the PA was being utilised during last week when it was at full capacity. I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer some version of the previous paid fast pass system within a year or two (3 x Thrill rides, 3 x Family rides). Not to mention some incentive to suite and club guests again when demand begins to peter out.

 

[marni1971]

Again, I was stunned how little the PA was being utilised during last week when it was at full capacity. I wouldn't be surprised to see them offer some version of the previous paid fast pass system within a year or two (3 x Thrill rides, 3 x Family rides). Not to mention some incentive to suite and club guests again when demand begins to peter out.

Oh they’ll try every trick in the book.

 

[HauntedPirate]

This is a fine system compared to wdw, if you wanna pay you. Less people will use this compared to legacy fp. I think this means shorter standby lines for the rest of us.

This does nothing for standby lines. The same number of people will be in the parks, how does this change the length of standby lines?

 

[HauntedPirate]

Oh they’ll try every trick in the book.

"Coming soon! Disney's Premier Access Ultimate Lightning+ Plan! Starting at only 800 Euros (based on seasonal demand), you can skip all the lines (one per attraction, select attractions only, limited availability)!"

 

[SplashJacket]

This is progress. Ultimately, just want them to do the Universal approach where you charge such an astronomical amount so only around 1% of guests will shell out the cash.

I’d rather them just skim the cash off the top, while negligibly raising the waits for everyone else.

The current system inflates wait times, increases costs for the average guest, and decreases convenience.

 

[ToTBellHop]

This does nothing for standby lines. The same number of people will be in the parks, how does this change the length of standby lines?

Standby lines move more quickly because a higher ratio of guests are in standby. This tends to lower wait times in practice over their FP peaks. It likely means some of us are going on fewer rides (the pros who used FP very well) but you also aren’t waiting 3 hours in a queue moving at a crawl. At WDW, this made traveling during a peak week more enjoyable to me. Lines used to be insanely high. Now, we didn’t wait more than 90 min for even the most-popular rides (RotR, for example).

Lines only hold so many people. People psychologically will avoid a full queue. And the queues are the same physical length but now move faster. So your wait is less. During FP days, a relatively short queue could still take awhile if the FP ratio was really high. Something like Journey Into Imagination might have an asinine 60 min queue because people just grabbed the FP because it was there. Now, it’s like 20 min max.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Standby lines move more quickly because a higher ratio of guests are in standby. This tends to lower wait times in practice over their FP peaks. It likely means some of us are going on fewer rides (the pros who used FP very well) but you also aren’t waiting 3 hours in a queue moving at a crawl. At WDW, this made traveling during a peak week more enjoyable to me. Lines used to be insanely high. Now, we didn’t wait more than 90 min for even the most-popular rides (RotR, for example).

Lines only hold so many people. People psychologically will avoid a full queue. And the queues are the same physical length but now move faster. So your wait is less. During FP days, a relatively short queue could still take awhile if the FP ratio was really high. Something like Journey Into Imagination might have an asinine 60 min queue because people just grabbed the FP because it was there. Now, it’s like 20 min max.

Ah, right. If you take out most of the people waiting in the FP lines, the standby lines tend to move more quickly. Forgot about that from my own experience with the post-Covid reopening waits.

 

[silvermatch]

This demonstrates how badly paid access has gone down in Paris. A small handful of attractions do okay with it but overall it’s been rejected. Thankfully.

Anaheim, watch your back.

Overall it's not been rejected, it's making them quite a fortune right now and I'm sure people will pay for this multi-attractions service, like people paid for Ultimate FastPass which was 60€ to 90€ and was soldout every day

 

[Toni25]

HELP: CONCEPT ART FOR "MICKEY'S PLAZA" PARIS?
I did not want to start a new thread, does anybody have some photos/a link to concept art of the area in FANTASYLAND where that little green berm of flowers is? (The area where Beauty & the Beast Theater was supposed to go in the 90s); right across Tea Cups.

There was this concept art for Disneyland Paris to expand Fantasyland and create a small area called "Mickey's Plaza" or something like that (Maybe Mickey's Marketplace?); it was supposed to be this medieval inspired marketplace. I think the concept is old, maybe from the 90s.
I remember vaguely seeing some concept art either here or maybe on some other site? I can't remember
I tried googling it but can't find anything. Please tell me someone knows what I'm talking about!

 

[ToTBellHop]

Anyone know of any plans to reopen La Cabane des Robinson, the Nautilus, or Pirate Galleon? Those seem like rather random things to keep closed indefinitely.

 

[marni1971]

HELP: CONCEPT ART FOR "MICKEY'S PLAZA" PARIS?
I did not want to start a new thread, does anybody have some photos/a link to concept art of the area in FANTASYLAND where that little green berm of flowers is? (The area where Beauty & the Beast Theater was supposed to go in the 90s); right across Tea Cups.

There was this concept art for Disneyland Paris to expand Fantasyland and create a small area called "Mickey's Plaza" or something like that (Maybe Mickey's Marketplace?); it was supposed to be this medieval inspired marketplace. I think the concept is old, maybe from the 90s.
I remember vaguely seeing some concept art either here or maybe on some other site? I can't remember
I tried googling it but can't find anything. Please tell me someone knows what I'm talking about!

That wouldn’t be part of the capacity enhancement program circa 1992-3 would it? This particular item was cancelled for the Meet Mickey in the old theatre instead.

 

[marni1971]

Anyone know of any plans to reopen La Cabane des Robinson, the Nautilus, or Pirate Galleon? Those seem like rather random things to keep closed indefinitely.

The first two are looking at end of September. Apparently.

 

[Toni25]

That wouldn’t be part of the capacity enhancement program circa 1992-3 would it? This particular item was cancelled for the Meet Mickey in the old theatre instead.

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Yaaay, this is what I've been looking for Thank you!
Wish they built this instead, I love the aesthetic.

 

[Disney Analyst]