Disneyhead'71
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Magic Kingdom ranks as 2nd most favorite amusement park in the U.S. !
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Stevek
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I did...a couple pages back. Laughable.
flynnibus
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I was talking about IoA (the thread topic)... and we know Studios is a totally different aesthetic anyway... but with regards to IoA I couldn’t disagree with you more. Yes there are a few spots where buildings are exposed... but besides the backside of potter... none are very stark or even grab your eye IMO.
FigmentForver96
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I don't take seriously a site that placed Shipwreck Island waterpwrk as 3rd best in the country. If that crapper of a park can make top on the list then I'm not Interested in any of their lists.
That's all I'm going to say on the matter because truthfully arguing over which park is better is stupid as it is all in the eye of the beholder
That's all I'm going to say on the matter because truthfully arguing over which park is better is stupid as it is all in the eye of the beholder
WondersOfLife
Blink, blink. Breathe, breathe. Day in, day out.
You are correct. The IP doesn't matter if the execution is done poorly. I don't believe Toy Story has the same draw as, say... Harry Potter, or Frozen, or even Pirates of the Caribbean, though. If it did, Toy Story Mania would still be as popular/crowded as any of the Harry Potter attractions... I'm guessing. Although, that third track DOES play a large part in increased ride capacity.
But yes, I agree with what you said. It has to be a strong IP AAAND a strong execution. But I WILL say that if the IP is something hardly anyone actually cares about, like Jimmy Fallon or King Kong... Even though they're executed well (at least by Uni's simulator standards), they're still not the reason why people are actually going to Universal. At least, the AVERAGE park guest.
I'm willing to bet that Avatarland's popularity will dwindle down fast once Star Wars Land opens at HS, and as they continue to add new lands/attractions with stronger IPs. (IF THEY'RE EXECUTED CORRECTLY)
draybook
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Sir_Cliff
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I don't think we're supposed to admit this, but I feel a little the same way. The Disney parks are actually what got me interested in Disney more broadly. Now that I've got sucked into that vortex, though, it makes it harder to get up the same enthusiasm for Uni as WDW or DL.
While I get all the reasons to be cynical, it's hard to ignore the cultural machine that is Disney. The films and theme parks continually feed people into one another, and the whole brand has taken on the aura of a force outside of the rest of the entertainment industry. I watched a video of the new nighttime show at Universal recently which looks fine. Honestly, though, I couldn't care less about about Minions, any of the Dreamworks films, and I'm at best indifferent to any of the other IPs in the show. I can't really imagine actually bothering to wait for it if I were there, however with Happily Ever After or World of Color I do have some connection to the movies and songs and enjoy them quite a lot. With the exception of The Simpsons, I'm not sure any IP over at Uni particularly interests me and those parks are even more heavily IP-based than Disney.
I'm sure Universal technically does many things better than Disney and I've been to multiple Uni parks and enjoyed them. I also find plenty to complain about in how the parks are being run. If I'm honest, though, I really don't find myself being pulled over to Uni when I'm on a WDW vacation. It's more a question of whether a WDW vacation is worth the cost rather than where I'll spend the time between the two.
Disneyhead'71
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Let's face it. You REALLY have to like Disney to consider the "Disney Parks Experiece" to be anything other than a colossal PITA.
JoeCamel
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Did you submit your review? Well there you go then!
wdwfan4ver
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I think it a bunch of factors of why Epcot is not on it including Epcot is not as good as it was back in the 1980s and early 1990s. Today's guests also don't want to learn on vacation and it has hurt Epcot. The truth is I love rides like Space Ship Earth and Living with the Land, not everyone does.
I think people want more rides in World Showcase and it does hurt the ratings. Disney also doing bad updates or replacements didn't help matters. Future World is a mess. Today's guests may also think Epcot is more about festivals and food than attractions due to Disney's actions.
I called Future World a mess for a reason. Imagination Pavilion hasn't been a good pavilion since the 1990s ever since they messed with the original imagination ride. Soarin' Around the World is not everyone's favorite attraction due to the CGI and other problems with it. Innoventions has issues since the 21st century. Wonder of Life being a Festival Center isn't helping things out either.
Skibum1970
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You brought up a great point. The walkways of DHS aren't laid out that great or in a way to handle any heavy crowds. It has no outlet spokes (as you pointed out). Once Star Wars opens, you will be trying to swim upstream against a massive current of other visitors if you aren't going the same direction.
wdwfan4ver
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Attendance does not mean everything because locations and weather plays a huge rule for Amusement Park attendance.
There is a reason Trip Advisor has Bay Beach Amusement Park ranked number 17 Despite its attendance. Bay Beach Amusement Park is very likely the most affordable Amusement Park in the entire United States that caters to little kids and has been around since 1892. Bay Beach from 1937 to 2010 did not have a roller coaster at all, but its prices kept the Amusement for decades. I went there as a little kid when my family visited Green Bay, Wisconsin when I was a kid. Bay Beach didn't have a roller coaster when I was a kid.
Bay Beach Amusement Park has free parking, Free Admission. and you have the option of bring you own food and eat at a picnic table. The rides currently cost 25 cents, 50 cents, 75 cents, and the amusement parks only roller coaster costs a dollar according to their website. Bay Beach also right now is middle of an expansion due to the city bought 46 more acres of land.
Bay Beach Amusement Park is the new home of Elvis Presley's Roller Coaster called Zippin Pippin. If you live in Wisconsin with little kids, it is more affordable than a Disney theme park is like it or not.
Bay Beach Amusement Park can't match the attendance of many theme parks despite theme having 3.5 million riders last year according to their pr department. Bay Beach Amusement Park is only open every day from June to end of August. Bay Beach Bay Amusement Park is open less than 30 days combined in May and September. The Amusement Park is limited in amount of days due to weather since it runs outdoors and the location due goes get cold and gets snow.
The other thing is this amusement park is located in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Green Bay, Wisconsin is not the tourist spot like Orlando, Florida.
Model3 McQueen
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Attendance is measurable. Anything like "best theme park" or "most fun XYZ" is subjective without any solid statistics backing it up. If an attraction has a high wait time always and a high ridership count, we can assume it's popular. But saying a ride is popular because they like it is subjective. Same goes with parks.
OG Runner
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I stayed at the Portofino in May, it is great. We went to the luau at the Pacific another very nice location. We had friends that stayed at Cabana Bay, it is a large Hotel 6, not impressed. I have also stayed at the Polynesian, it is fantastic. The CBR is a very nice stay. I have also stayed at the All Star Sport & Pop Century, Disney's Hotel 6s.
Tracy girlie
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(by the way who the hell is Dudley-Do?)
Dudley Do Right is a cartoon about a Canadian Mountie who somehow always gets the job done despite completely mis-reading situations and constantly getting in his own way. It was affiliated somehow with the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. I don't think it's been broadcast widely in decades.
Dudley Do Right is a cartoon about a Canadian Mountie who somehow always gets the job done despite completely mis-reading situations and constantly getting in his own way. It was affiliated somehow with the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show. I don't think it's been broadcast widely in decades.
Bocabear
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That is one thing that always surprised me...Disney sort of created the standard in park design that the world copied...The central axis and spokes with all connecting and no dead ends...It works perfectly, and then the last parks they have designed beginning with DHS they abandoned that concept and create these parks that just don't make sense in layout and crowd control... DHS is the worst... The park makes no sense... I was hoping the additions would start to fix these issues and relive the dead ens, but looks like it is going to be even worse...
Sirwalterraleigh
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Absolutely fantastic insight
geekza
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So true. MGM's tagline should have been, "Oh, crap! Universal is moving in next door. Throw something together QUICKLY and we'll fix it later." By the time they started getting up to speed, the benefits of doing film and TV production in Florida went away and 3/4 of the park became a ghost town. Universal adapted to this far better than Disney/MGM/Hollywood Studios did. I'm really glad that the park is finally getting a much-needed facelift, but it is no longer a park with its own identity. It's essentially Magic Kingdom Annex. I totally understand this move and, to be honest, don't see any other direction they could have gone, but that's what it is now. I really wish they could have made a go of a park centered around production and the mystique of the Golden Age of Hollywood, but they tried and it failed.