Absolutely. Like they used to. Few years ago we were in Disneyland. DEP 840. Fireworks at 930, DEP 1045.
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Magic Kingdom getting a mixed light parade? I trust this source?
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@mattpeto said:
With the current ops, from mid August to mid December, experiencing nighttime entertainment at Magic Kingdom is simply not ideal. The bloat to see the fireworks on non-party nights: Saturdays, Mondays and Wednesdays (plus EEH guests), make plenty of guests feel uncomfortable. It’s complete bedlam there.
Adding a parade would make things even worse without changing ops considerably. And running it 2x per night sounds nice, like @marni1971 suggested, but I struggle to see how it will help with the Aug-Dec bloat. And then just offering only 3x per week makes it even worse. The party paywall to see the nighttime parade might be for the best.
They tried the after hours offerings and people obviously prefer the traditional parties, but it comes with a cost.
GiveMeTheMusic
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Disneyland routinely runs two parade performances, two Fantasmic performances and a fireworks show on summer evenings. Looked like this in summer 2022:
8:45 MSEP (starting at small world)
9 Fantasmic
9:30 Fireworks
10:15 MSEP (starting in Town Square)
10:30 Fantasmic
Having parade performances will also reduce the crowding for the fireworks. When you only have one nighttime entertainment option, that's the one everyone tries to attend. Options spread out the crowds and allow for people to see more than one show.
8:45 MSEP (starting at small world)
9 Fantasmic
9:30 Fireworks
10:15 MSEP (starting in Town Square)
10:30 Fantasmic
Having parade performances will also reduce the crowding for the fireworks. When you only have one nighttime entertainment option, that's the one everyone tries to attend. Options spread out the crowds and allow for people to see more than one show.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
If they had enough in the parks to occupy the standards ticketed customers…this discussion would be moot.
There was never these parkflow issues with the minor diversions of parades and fireworks years ago…
…then this genius showed up with the stupidity of lack of investment and upsells from Intentional crowding:
There was never these parkflow issues with the minor diversions of parades and fireworks years ago…
…then this genius showed up with the stupidity of lack of investment and upsells from Intentional crowding:
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s a deeper problem in Orlando…it doesn’t translate 1:1 with Anaheim
GiveMeTheMusic
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It's not 1:1, but TDO/WDW folks have now spent years making excuses about why their parks are somehow different than all the others, and it's how they've ended up with the World's Worst Disney Parks Entertainment Department. MK "can't handle" a night parade (even though it easily did for decades), which is a convenient reason to never spend money on creating one. DHS guests "love" 30+ year old stage shows, a convenient reason to never spend money replacing them. WDW guests "love" waiting 60+ minutes to meet one character at a time.
MK needs more entertainment, more characters, more rides, more dining. It's an operational nightmare for no reason other than laziness/greed.
brb1006
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Glad I wasn't the only person who noticed MK's character roster getting smaller and smaller as the years pass.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Oh…I couldn’t agree with you more…
And I’ll (always) go one further: wdw customers are overwhelmingly DUMB and have invited what has now become an overpriced, underequipped mess by making excuses for the BOBS wrecking the place…all the while buying more dvc and more “exclusive event” tickets to “experience” and asking for more and more as they punch repeatedly in the face.
A lot of those those that constantly sung the praises of slimey Bob now see what has happened as it came to a head in the “chapek era”…
…Seats on that bandwagon are limited for late comers.
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WorldExplorer
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They had a generic Mickey and friends cavalcade before the 50th cavalcade, I believe. Most likely they would just return that.
Me, personally, I would rather they stop the cavalcade and divert the people and resources somewhere else. I understand they're probably being used other places between cavalcades, but it still seems like a massive waste of resources.
WDW Pro
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Talk about resurrecting a zombie thread.
Since the original post references a story I covered, here's some additional info on the subject:
The plan prior to the pandemic was to make a parade for the 50th that would incorporate floats, performances and music from a multitude of Disney parades. This was confirmed to me by a third party vendor specializing in niche areas that Disney (and others) use when designing/refurbishing floats. Enough time has passed that it no longer threatens that individual's career to give that sort of information. A second source worked on Disney's themed components like what you find in their hotels / attractions and had seen bid requests that gave away what was happening.
Ultimately the parade was cancelled due to the pandemic. Even if Disney could have gotten the floats and refurbishments in place, there were concerns that staffing issues meant it simply couldn't be brought to an acceptable show quality. It's a real shame as it could have been a great spectacle.
Have fun, I'll check back in a few months from now.
Since the original post references a story I covered, here's some additional info on the subject:
The plan prior to the pandemic was to make a parade for the 50th that would incorporate floats, performances and music from a multitude of Disney parades. This was confirmed to me by a third party vendor specializing in niche areas that Disney (and others) use when designing/refurbishing floats. Enough time has passed that it no longer threatens that individual's career to give that sort of information. A second source worked on Disney's themed components like what you find in their hotels / attractions and had seen bid requests that gave away what was happening.
Ultimately the parade was cancelled due to the pandemic. Even if Disney could have gotten the floats and refurbishments in place, there were concerns that staffing issues meant it simply couldn't be brought to an acceptable show quality. It's a real shame as it could have been a great spectacle.
Have fun, I'll check back in a few months from now.
brb1006
Well-Known Member
I remember when the cavalcade floats were originally made as part of a marketing campaign.
TTA94
Well-Known Member
Talk about resurrecting a zombie thread.
Since the original post references a story I covered, here's some additional info on the subject:
The plan prior to the pandemic was to make a parade for the 50th that would incorporate floats, performances and music from a multitude of Disney parades. This was confirmed to me by a third party vendor specializing in niche areas that Disney (and others) use when designing/refurbishing floats. Enough time has passed that it no longer threatens that individual's career to give that sort of information. A second source worked on Disney's themed components like what you find in their hotels / attractions and had seen bid requests that gave away what was happening.
Ultimately the parade was cancelled due to the pandemic. Even if Disney could have gotten the floats and refurbishments in place, there were concerns that staffing issues meant it simply couldn't be brought to an acceptable show quality. It's a real shame as it could have been a great spectacle.
Have fun, I'll check back in a few months from now.
I mean if that all was true, or at least some type of parade was supposed to happen for the 50th but the pandemic, understandably, canceled it, Why couldn’t those plans just have been pushed off, like, for the 100th next year? No reason those plans couldn’t be dusted off now.
Talk about resurrecting a zombie thread.
Since the original post references a story I covered, here's some additional info on the subject:
The plan prior to the pandemic was to make a parade for the 50th that would incorporate floats, performances and music from a multitude of Disney parades. This was confirmed to me by a third party vendor specializing in niche areas that Disney (and others) use when designing/refurbishing floats. Enough time has passed that it no longer threatens that individual's career to give that sort of information. A second source worked on Disney's themed components like what you find in their hotels / attractions and had seen bid requests that gave away what was happening.
Ultimately the parade was cancelled due to the pandemic. Even if Disney could have gotten the floats and refurbishments in place, there were concerns that staffing issues meant it simply couldn't be brought to an acceptable show quality. It's a real shame as it could have been a great spectacle.
Have fun, I'll check back in a few months from now.
Yeah, we knew...
Composers of Baroque Hoedown, the repetitive electronic music of Main Street Parade.
It was partially used in Hong Kong's Paint the Night parade.
Which is the big hint here.
Speaking of crowds in the parade days the Magic Kingdom was open 9-12, park hoppers were more affordable so you weren’t locked in for the day with a set 9-9 or 10. We’d arrive at the Magic Kingdom in the afternoon and stay to 12 so, mid day was crowded but the crowds would be spread out so to timing and park hopping. They say the price increases are do to demand, no it’s do to being stuck in one park all day in a smaller time gap. And on top of that there’s allot less attractions that arrant rides parades being one of them.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Oh lovely…another peeing match over “insiders” by hacks and third parties 
Everyone who posts on a third party Disney site is an insider I thoughtOh lovely…another peeing match over “insiders” by hacks and third parties
everybody wants to be Martin nowFantasmic isn't held at the castle - it's held on Tom Sawyer Island. Unless they stopped doing Main Street focused projection shows at the MK or somehow bypassed Main Street at the MK for the parade entirely, I really do not see how they can run the parade. It's too packed.
GiveMeTheMusic
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You can remove Fantasmic from the equation; it only serves to show that DL can run multiple nighttime shows successfully. Obvious MK doesn't have Fantasmic, but they ran MSEP with Wishes from 2010-2016. People watch the parade, and then they either go do something else or they fill in for fireworks viewing after. It works just fine and helps spread out crowds.
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