SoFloMagic
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News Magic Kingdom and Epcot Fireworks to Resume July 1st
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doctornick
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I find this kind of stuff funny. I’m certain I was a a regular reader here when those incidents occurred and don’t have any clue about them. It’s interesting to me how much people care here about such bloggers (vloggers, whatever) when they are so easy to ignore and not even be aware of. I generally don’t have a clue about who 90% of the personalities people rant about here even are.
mattpeto
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Parades will be back. They still exist overseas. And do 20-30 cavalcades from each park cost less than one parade?
Disney Glimpses
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Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I feel that @orky8 is right; and not just about fireworks.
Things turned around so fast regarding COVID-19 measures and Disney was so ill-prepared on virtually every front. Things are sprinkling back in (like BoardWalk ice cream and games, for example) but at a much slower rate than it should've been.
It's quite clear they thought they were a ways out from normality and it completely snuck up on them.
Look at the Park Pass availability for June. Virtually not a single park available for the entire month. They are lost right now and scrambling is the best way to describe it.
They don't even have the manpower to pull up distancing markers throughout the parks in a single night; so they are pulling up what they can, painfully, one at a time over the last two weeks.
Things turned around so fast regarding COVID-19 measures and Disney was so ill-prepared on virtually every front. Things are sprinkling back in (like BoardWalk ice cream and games, for example) but at a much slower rate than it should've been.
It's quite clear they thought they were a ways out from normality and it completely snuck up on them.
Look at the Park Pass availability for June. Virtually not a single park available for the entire month. They are lost right now and scrambling is the best way to describe it.
They don't even have the manpower to pull up distancing markers throughout the parks in a single night; so they are pulling up what they can, painfully, one at a time over the last two weeks.
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GimpYancIent
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True. Must have used some really good adhesive.
deix15x8
Active Member
Which is exactly why Disney is holding back, despite our wishes, projects like Tron and Guardians of the Galaxy to give reason to return after the travel bubble busts.
AmesTARDIS
Member
I was really good discouraging my kids from "wasting their allowance" on souvenirs that they would never use or care about again...until we hit these carts. Anything with lights, flashing lights, or bubbles just overcame all of our good sense. Of course, the items on these carts were also effective in calming a lot of tired and cranky children.
What you're seeing is the lumbering Disney bureaucracy in full action (or inaction). Whilst USO, for example, can make rapid changes and leave a lot of discretion to the field, Disney does not do that. Committees and meetings and planning sessions with layers of management do not bode well for a responsive organization. It's always been like this. Maybe it serves them well for not making rash decisions, but it also harms them competitively by constantly being put in a catch up position. Of course they may not even realize this, since they think they don't have any competition.
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Amidala
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I worked them back in 2016. There were 25(ish?) glow carts at MK (not including the Tomorrowland ones, which operated under a different leadership team) and they usually all did high numbers, especially the ones on MS and in the castle hub. I’d say upwards of $20K per night depending on crowds?
Disney Glimpses
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That alone covers half the cost of fireworks.
EricsBiscuit
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I honestly don’t understand why people on this forum are so rude to Brayden. It’s like they’re envious of him.
Chip Chipperson
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Maybe I'm mistaken or thinking of someone else, but is he the one who was suspected of taking information posted by insiders here and using it without giving credit? Someone else might remember that better than I do, but if I'm right then he doesn't really deserve anyone's respect. If I'm wrong or that was someone else, then I guess all I can say is that some people just rub other people the wrong way but people do mature and evolve over time (look at the Trackers' videos from several years ago compared to their videos now or Adam the Woo then vs. now, for example) so maybe some people who can't stand him now will feel better about him down the line.
crackerman
New Member
Right... even if Disney wanted to start fireworks tomorrow, could they?
- They don't seem to have enough employees to extend hours to when it's dark.
- Do they have enough fireworks on-site? How long do they take to order and arrive?
- Launchers were removed from the aux sites, what's the state of the primary?
- Do they have employees off furlough to run the show? Did they find new jobs while off for 15 months? How long to train new ones?
nickys
Premium Member
He took everything that Martin and others posted here on the forums, used it on his YouTube shows without crediting them (and all the time making money off what they said). He then threw a strop here and stormed off - at least 2 or 3 times. And then came back on under a new name pretending to be someone on the inside, until he was rumbled.
It was partly thanks to him, and others doing the same thing, that some of our insiders stopped posting as much info on here.
ilovetotravel1977
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How do we know 100% that Brayden was THAT poster though?
I'm not disputing what you say- from all I've heard it's true. However, keep in mind that WDW is much, much larger (both geographically and in terms of parks, facilities, staff, etc.) than USO, so I'm sure that makes it a lot harder to make big decisions/implement things. Not only is USO much smaller geographically (less infrastructure and transportation), it only has half the number of parks, all of the hotels are operated by a 3rd party and a lot of the food service is operated by a 3rd party. Everything is in house at WDW. Universal has a completely different operations model and is vastly smaller than Disney, so I'm not sure it's fair to try to apply an apples to apples comparison.
TrainsOfDisney
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Not even close. It’s less and less by the day.
As to comparisons. If something is exactly the same there’s nothing to compare correct? Of course Universal, Disney, and Sea World all operate a bit differently but they are the 3 major theme park operators in Orlando. 2 of them have major nighttime shows running, 1 of them doesn’t. Seems like a fair comparison to me.
GoofGoof
Premium Member
Only 1 of the 3 needs busses to bring thousands of guests pouring out of the park after fireworks back to their hotels. There’s a big time shortage of bus drivers at WDW right now which is one of the reasons why park opening and closing times are more staggered now than in “normal times”. I’m not saying that’s the only reason why fireworks aren’t back yet, just that it’s one potential factor. The logistics of WDW are more challenging than the other 2 which are mostly self contained.
TrainsOfDisney
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Of course. So does that mean we can’t compare WDW theme parks to any other parks? Because they have “challenging” logistics?
GoofGoof
Premium Member
They can be compared in many ways. However there are differences too. So it’s not as simple as saying if Universal and Sea World can do night shows right now so can Disney. It may take them longer because they need to setup the logistics to move people around and you can’t just hire someone off the street to drive a bus. Having all that land is both a gift and a curse.