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Magic Kingdom 50th Anniversary Plans

Chris82

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There’s plenty of room. They just stuck a roof over the front for the perceived Floridian climate.

Oddly if they just removed the roof and added canopies to the catwalks and load area (like Paris) it would do so much for the greater land.

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Oh man... the thought of getting rid of that chokepoint between Peter Pan and it's a small world... how wonderful would that be? Is there any chance that could actually happen? Hard to tell from satellite photos, but I wonder if they reconfigured Pinocchio Village Haus a bit, they could maybe reroute the queue around the side rather than to the front. Disney has shown willingness in the past to spend money to fix congestion/routing issues, but I don't know. This might be a bridge too far so to speak... heh.
 

MickeyMinnieMom

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There’s plenty of room. They just stuck a roof over the front for the perceived Floridian climate.

Oddly if they just removed the roof and added canopies to the catwalks and load area (like Paris) it would do so much for the greater land.

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Don’t we get a bit more protection from the heat this way, though, or not? Paris certainly doesn’t need that.
 
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macsmom

Active Member
Ah... well, we don't live in the alternate reality where Disney will build something -- yet to even be announced -- in a couple of years... at least I don't think we do... ;)

As an aside... when is "the 50th" technically set to start? It's in 2021... so are they going with Jan 2021 (start of the year... isn't this what they've done in the past?), or Oct 2021?
There was a previous celebration (can't remember which one) that started the October before the year started and ran through the whole year. For example, the 50th will start in October 2020 and run through December 2021.
 

mnelson3

Well-Known Member
There was a previous celebration (can't remember which one) that started the October before the year started and ran through the whole year. For example, the 50th will start in October 2020 and run through December 2021.
The new nighttime parade debuting a year early? I’d be fine with that! Lol ;)
 

capsshield

Active Member
With the Fox deal drawing to a close and the Disney + service soon coming on line I would bet upper management is not focused on the parks as much as they should be. The stock will take a big hit if those two project fail to produce and heads will roll soon after.

Also with the delay in Guardians 3 and the slow down on Star Wars movies I expect they are looking at reduced earnings in entertainment and consumer goods, which means cut the parks budget.

Management will say "We need a strong bottom line cancel projects A, B, and C and reduce all budgets on projects D-L 30%
people will come anyway with or without refurbs and still have a good time."

I do think they will squeeze out a few more things to make it sound exciting like new parades and Daytime and night time shows in all four parks.
Perhaps an overlay on Small World like California's version, The Hatbox Ghost, new enhancements to Big Thunder, new final scene in COP, a minor addition to Pirates or Jungle Cruise, People mover Dioramas, new scene or two in Philharmagic, New Country Bear show, Etc...

These things could be done in staggered 3-6 month intervals while rehab and maintenance goes on in those attractions without a big budget increase.

I don't expect any projects we haven't heard about to break ground and open before or for the 50th in the MK.

Epcot and the Studios would be the place I would expect to see a little more. Studios will get temporary additions that lasts for years longer than they should. Maybe a meet and greet type show like the Belle attraction in MK or like Turtle Talk in the Seas. Street Festivals are sure to follow. Maybe an upgrade to Playhouse Disney and a new show replacing or updating one or two of the current shows.

I have no doubt they will have 50 things to market for the 50th and it will sound exciting and like its the place to be for anyone that loves Disney and family fun. A huge party 50 years in the making.
About 16 of those things will be New parades, Daytime and Nighttime shows and street festivals. 10 will be new shows or movies replacing current shows, 10 will be attraction enhancement all small but cool upgrades, 10 will be attractions just completed or in construction now, and 2-4 to include transportation, magic band enhancements, restaurants and Disney Springs additions.

If we are real lucky they will give us a Poppin's attraction and open up Wonders of Life, and communicore with something new. We could see more than 50 new things who knows.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Small World belongs in Epcot, fully updated with the type of puppets in Sinbad Tokyo to promote world unity. And while they're at it, also get rid of the bad stereotypes and the use of animals for when you don't know what a particular regions culture is like... and get rid of the non-cultural elements like the acid-trip cranes and clowns and toy soldiers... what cultures are they supposed to be? And also reorchestrate the song with a coda so as not to be so repetitive or sing-songy. And also a ceiling that looks like the sky and not black acoustic tiles and industrial ductwork.

With Small World gone, you then can open up that choke point and get around Haunted Mansion for access to the expansion area there without getting rid of RoA.
 

MickeyMinnieMom

Well-Known Member
You’d be surprised how hot it gets in Paris in the summer. 90s are the norm. Just without the humidity.
I'm sure that happens at times. But looking at annual monthly averages and knowing people living there, I don't think that 90's are the norm in Paris in the summer (average high is 77 Jul-Aug). The weather there is clearly drastically different than Orlando -- over 20 degrees difference on average.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
I'm sure that happens at times. But looking at annual monthly averages and knowing people living there, I don't think that 90's are the norm in Paris in the summer (average high is 77 Jul-Aug). The weather there is clearly drastically different than Orlando -- over 20 degrees difference on average.
It’s usually a lot hotter than 22 in Marne la Vallee in the summer. I couldn’t believe it one year with the sunburn I got in July.

Regardless, it could work in Orlando. It would be no different that say the HM. But we’re fantasising aren’t we. It’s not on the cards.
 

jaxonp

Well-Known Member
well here’s what’s sad, the magic kingdom has the worst version of IASM. Every other castle park, sans Shanghai, does it considerable better inside and out.
 

rle4lunch

Well-Known Member
It’s usually a lot hotter than 22 in Marne la Vallee in the summer. I couldn’t believe it one year with the sunburn I got in July.

Regardless, it could work in Orlando. It would be no different that say the HM. But we’re fantasising aren’t we. It’s not on the cards.
I remember not too long ago (10 years or less?) where the high's in France were around 95 and like 500 people died due to not having air conditioning... I don't remember the exact number of people who died, but it was weirdly high.
 

PaulZ

Member
I know everyone hates the “tombstones” but since I was a sucker and paid for my wife and I’s photo to be on them, I’d like them to stay.
 

tomast

Well-Known Member
Small World belongs in Epcot, fully updated with the type of puppets in Sinbad Tokyo to promote world unity. And while they're at it, also get rid of the bad stereotypes and the use of animals for when you don't know what a particular regions culture is like... and get rid of the non-cultural elements like the acid-trip cranes and clowns and toy soldiers... what cultures are they supposed to be? And also reorchestrate the song with a coda so as not to be so repetitive or sing-songy. And also a ceiling that looks like the sky and not black acoustic tiles and industrial ductwork.

With Small World gone, you then can open up that choke point and get around Haunted Mansion for access to the expansion area there without getting rid of RoA.
THE ROOF PLEASE!!!
put something overthere right now!!! everytime I see it something inside me dies...

If they remove Small World I would love to see (I know you guys hate IPS) but a tangled atraction there maybe a dark ride with a huge room with the balloons all over you (no roof viewing please)



The effect can be do with some mirrors like the artist Yayoi Kusama do in her art expositions

 

MerlinTheGoat

Well-Known Member
I Know but removing one iconic ip-less atraction (small world) for an IP one would generate some complains overhere.
This idea often pops up as a "armchair imagineering" concept (I don't know if this has ever been seriously considered officially in the company or if it's purely a fan idea). To clarify, no one suggesting this is in favor of actually "removing" Small World from WDW property. The idea is to give it a new home in EPCOT instead. This would then allow Disney to put something else in the old Fantasyland building.

To be quite clear, a scenario in which Disney were to remove Small World without relocating it elsewhere on WDW property would NOT be acceptable. In that scenario, they should just leave it alone. But if they were willing to relocate Small World to EPCOT, putting an IP (at least a fitting fairy tale one such as Tangled) in its old Fantasyland building would be acceptable.
 
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Kman101

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Kind of interesting to see a few jump on the 'move it's a small world' bandwagon (I know, not on the cards and not gonna happen). @RSoxNo1 and I have been making that suggestion for years now and were looked at as crazy. It belongs in EPCOT in my mind. And yes, all the other castle parks with a small world do it better automatically because it's not treated like an afterthought. They more or less rebuilt the thing in 2004/2005, could have just moved it then. I know the current company never would but we all know they could if they truly wanted to.

Watching videos of Small World holiday and seeing the exterior ... imagine seeing that at Epcot (and I feel like the holiday version is more suited for that park). It would really plus the park IMHO (and be seen as the signature attraction it really is). Oh well. Nice to dream. Ironic that in Florida, with all the space imaginable (mostly), they can't bother to give it the exterior and queue it deserves.

I've always been surprised at those who think Small World wouldn't work in Epcot. It's hands down one of the best representations of World Showcase/Epcot, IMHO. Like Carousel of Progress, both easily work there. I think it's different in Disneyland, that was Walt's park. Because of where both attractions got their start, I've always felt they belonged in Epcot. Though Carousel really belongs at Disneyland, but I'm so glad we have it here.
 
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MickeyMinnieMom

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Kind of interesting to see a few jump on the 'move it's a small world' bandwagon (I know, not on the cards and not gonna happen). @RSoxNo1 and I have been making that suggestion for years now and were looked at as crazy. It belongs in EPCOT in my mind. And yes, all the other castle parks with a small world do it better automatically because it's not treated like an afterthought. They more or less rebuilt the thing in 2004/2005, could have just moved it then. I know the current company never would but we all know they could if they truly wanted to.

Watching videos of Small World holiday and seeing the exterior ... imagine seeing that at Epcot. It would really plus the park IMHO (and be seen as the signature attraction it really is). Oh well. Nice to dream. Ironic that in Florida, with all the space imaginable (mostly), they can't bother to give it the exterior and queue it deserves.
We know it won't happen -- I don't think it should, either. While I could imagine that being a fit in Epcot, I think that IASW is now quintessential MK in the minds of so many -- it doesn't NOT fit there. And to the extent that people try to glean "what would Walt want", he didn't choose to place it in EPCOT himself.
 
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