Mad Tea Party to be involved?

[NewfieFan]

I agree, it looks gorgeous. But I'm wondering, with Florida's high winds and rain, wouldn't a glass roof be dangerous?

I'm pretty sure that's been mentioned before around here! The Paris roof wouldn't work in FL, apparently!?!

I guess it doesn't really matter what the concept art shows... it sounds like we're not getting the new roof! Too bad, as the one we currently have does look pretty cheap. I'd love to see a new roof and those lights from DL... a girl can wish...!

 

[PlutosPalace]

I agree, it looks gorgeous. But I'm wondering, with Florida's high winds and rain, wouldn't a glass roof be dangerous?

Disney wouldn't put normal thin window pane glass in a cieling structure like that anyway. And even if it were it would be a really thick type of glass. More likely it would be a plexi-glass type of material.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

I agree, it looks gorgeous. But I'm wondering, with Florida's high winds and rain, wouldn't a glass roof be dangerous?

I'm sure there's no danger. There are glass roofs over the Imagination and Land Pavilions as well as the Crystal Palace restaurants. As far as i'm aware, never been any danger to those places. It would be thick glass and nigh impossible to break with just wind and rain.

@NewfieFan

Why wouldn't it work? I see no problem here, there are at least three other major glass-roof buildings at WDW already (all i can think of are the ones above offhand, might be some more i forgot).

 

[ChristianG]

I'm sure there's no danger. There are glass roofs over the Imagination and Land Pavilions as well as the Crystal Palace restaurants. As far as i'm aware, never been any danger to those places. It would be thick glass and nigh impossible to break with just wind and rain.

@NewfieFan

Why wouldn't it work? I see no problem here, there are at least three other major glass-roof buildings at WDW already (all i can think of are the ones above offhand, might be some more i forgot).

Oh! You're right! I never even thought about the pavilions!

 

[Biff215]

Keep in mind that concept art is always made to look "pretty". Doesn't mean they ever had any intent of doing something with it. Perhaps it was WDI's attempt at getting TDO to go for it since it wouldn't likely be including in the FLE budget.

I agree with all the others on the current roof. It looks like something you would see at a much smaller amusement park. It literally looks like it was handpainted, which isn't a good thing in this situation. It's a shame that one entrance to the new expansion is going to look like this.

 

[PlutosPalace]

How does this sound...? (And I know this is stretching it a bit but try to not burn me for this idea) Maybe they we going to redo the roof to match the DLP version (as it is seen in the renderings) to better match the New Fantasyland look and feel. However, that would have been a project for further along but the rotting roof presented an OSHA violation so they had to do something sooner. So maybe they just threw together something fast and quick to satisfy the safety concerns (God knows they have had enough accidents lately) and they will completely overhaul the Tea Cups, roof and all, later to match the New Fantasyland concept. They might have wanted to wait on the new roof design so it wouldn't be the only thing out there to have the new concept makeover that far in advance of the New Fantasyland opening.

I know. I said it was a stretch.

 

[mp2bill]

No. Everything is better at Disneyland. Everything. Don't try to use your 'facts' as some sort of 'truth' to stop anyone from thinking otherwise.

Ahahahahahahaha!

 

[ob1thx1138]

I'm sure there's no danger. There are glass roofs over the Imagination and Land Pavilions as well as the Crystal Palace restaurants. As far as i'm aware, never been any danger to those places. It would be thick glass and nigh impossible to break with just wind and rain.

@NewfieFan

Why wouldn't it work? I see no problem here, there are at least three other major glass-roof buildings at WDW already (all i can think of are the ones above offhand, might be some more i forgot).

The only thing that comes to mind is the fact that all those other roofs are on climate controlled structures. I think the biggest issue with a glass roof on an open structure would be mold. Also having a glass roof would greatly increase the temperature for people riding (they would no longer be riding in the shade).

 

[Biff215]

How does this sound...? (And I know this is stretching it a bit but try to not burn me for this idea) Maybe they we going to redo the roof to match the DLP version (as it is seen in the renderings) to better match the New Fantasyland look and feel. However, that would have been a project for further along but the rotting roof presented an OSHA violation so they had to do something sooner. So maybe they just threw together something fast and quick to satisfy the safety concerns (God knows they have had enough accidents lately) and they will completely overhaul the Tea Cups, roof and all, later to match the New Fantasyland concept. They might have wanted to wait on the new roof design so it wouldn't be the only thing out there to have the new concept makeover that far in advance of the New Fantasyland opening.

I know. I said it was a stretch.

Not really a stretch at all. This is what others have been suggesting since that concept art was released and the recent work was done on the roof. The most likely issue now would probably be budget. It's probably not included in the FLE (was Pooh?), and even if it was, it would be an easy cut if other costs are running over. If we're waiting on TDO to fork over the money, we might as well stop talking. Even if this roof was originally supposed to be temporary, you can only imagine that they might have seen it and decided it was fine to stay that way.

I don't want to get too negative, as I usually give Disney the benefit of the doubt, but in this case I hope something is done before the FLE is done. The current roof looks cheap and is a major opportunity to improve something that will become a focal point once everyone opens. I'm hoping we're all worried about nothing!

 

[mharrington]

I agree, it looks gorgeous. But I'm wondering, with Florida's high winds and rain, wouldn't a glass roof be dangerous?

Probably so, but wouldn't a simple canopy roof made of some silky tent material be dangerous, too?

 

[TP2000]

Too bad, as the one we currently have does look pretty cheap. I'd love to see a new roof and those lights from DL... a girl can wish...!

Yeah, the Disneyland lighting system couldn't be that expensive to install, could it? Disneyland got those lights about five years ago, so the concept is sound and they've already done the programming that makes them flash with the soundtrack.

It would seem to be an easy and inexpensive thing to do to fly out similar lanterns from Disneyland and email the digital track that has the audio/light show programming to someone in Florida.

It's these little details that make Disney parks so magical and unique!

 

[marni1971]

Paris version. Complete with moat. I rest my case.

 

[NewfieFan]

I'm sure there's no danger. There are glass roofs over the Imagination and Land Pavilions as well as the Crystal Palace restaurants. As far as i'm aware, never been any danger to those places. It would be thick glass and nigh impossible to break with just wind and rain.

@NewfieFan

Why wouldn't it work? I see no problem here, there are at least three other major glass-roof buildings at WDW already (all i can think of are the ones above offhand, might be some more i forgot).

Honestly, I have no idea! I was just repeating what I had read on here some time ago from people "in the know"!

The only thing that comes to mind is the fact that all those other roofs are on climate controlled structures. I think the biggest issue with a glass roof on an open structure would be mold. Also having a glass roof would greatly increase the temperature for people riding (they would no longer be riding in the shade).

This sounds like a good explanation, though!

Yeah, the Disneyland lighting system couldn't be that expensive to install, could it? Disneyland got those lights about five years ago, so the concept is sound and they've already done the programming that makes them flash with the soundtrack.

It would seem to be an easy and inexpensive thing to do to fly out similar lanterns from Disneyland and email the digital track that has the audio/light show programming to someone in Florida.

It's these little details that make Disney parks so magical and unique!

^This

 

[Lee]

Paris version. Complete with moat. I rest my case.

Yes.
Paris wins the best roof competition...by a mile.

I still like Disneyland's atmosphere, especially at night.

 

[Tim Lohr]

I think Disneyland Tea Cups got the pretty lights to make up for the fact that there's no roof or big teapot in the middle

Because Disney World and Tokyo Disneyland have the exact same ride, with the cloth roof and the giant tea pot in the center

Disneyland Paris has the fancy roof, but no teapot in the middle

and Hong Kong has the same cloth roof as Florida and Tokyo, but the big tea pot is outside the ride w/ the landscaping.

 

[TP2000]

I think Disneyland Tea Cups got the pretty lights to make up for the fact that there's no roof or big teapot in the middle

Because Disney World and Tokyo Disneyland have the exact same ride, with the cloth roof and the giant tea pot in the center

Disneyland Paris has the fancy roof, but no teapot in the middle

and Hong Kong has the same cloth roof as Florida and Tokyo, but the big tea pot is outside the ride w/ the landscaping.

:lol:

Disneyland doesn't have a roof because of the arid, coastal-desert climate it's in. Disneyland also doesn't have roofs on other rides that are covered elsewhere (Small World, Winnie The Pooh) with what little rainfall Disneyland gets falling on a handful of days between December and early March.

Annual Rainfall
Anaheim - 11 Inches
Paris - 25 Inches
Orlando - 49 Inches
Tokyo - 60 Inches
Hong Kong - 71 Inches

It should be noted, however, that as pretty and un-clunking as Disneyland's teacups are, they can not operate in the rain. The turntables slip and don't spin properly with more than a drizzle of rain, and the attraction is closed until the chance of rain disappears and then they turn on air blowers underneath the turntables and have Custodial CM's mop up the actual teacups and surfaces.

Which Disney apparently learned the hard way after opening the WDW Mad Tea Party in 1971 without a roof like Disneyland, but adding one within a couple years of opening.

Walt Disney World 1971 - A Roofless California-style Mad Tea Party ride

 

[Tim Lohr]

Disneyland doesn't have a roof because of the arid, coastal-desert climate it's in. Disneyland also doesn't have roofs on other rides that are covered elsewhere (Small World, Winnie The Pooh) with what little rainfall Disneyland gets falling on a handful of days between December and early March.

ummm? ok, you kinda missed my point, I understand why they don't need a roof in Anahiem, but this thread isn't about "annual rainfall" it's about "will they change the roof in Orlando to look like the one in Paris"

...and the point I was trying to get at is that all 5 Tea Cups rides are little different but they've each got something special... Anahiem has the light show, Paris has the pretty roof, and Orlando, Tokyo, and Hong Kong have the Teapot-Tea mouse... basically they're all seperate but equal

 

[Brian_WDW74]

Buena Vista Construction Company filed a Notice of Commencement yesterday to provide "labor, materials and/or equipment for construction" for the MK Tea Cups. I'm not saying that it's for the roof, but it's interesting nonetheless.

 

[PlutosPalace]

Buena Vista Construction Company filed a Notice of Commencement yesterday to provide "labor, materials and/or equipment for construction" for the MK Tea Cups. I'm not saying that it's for the roof, but it's interesting nonetheless.

That's some good news. Unfortunately it's probably for paint and the addition of unecessary structure addons.

However, I would really love to see this roof get its very own distinct style. I used to think having it look just like the DLP version would be a good thing but aren't they all different? Maybe the roof should be a completely new design that we have not seen before.
Maybe have the roof built with solid material (Fiberglass or whatever) but look like ribbons with pins stuck through almost like a pile of the Hatter's fabric.

 

[hpyhnt 1000]

Buena Vista Construction Company filed a Notice of Commencement yesterday to provide "labor, materials and/or equipment for construction" for the MK Tea Cups. I'm not saying that it's for the roof, but it's interesting nonetheless.

Probably nothing major as its Buena Vista Construction. If it was major work, you'd see an outside contractor (not to mention the ride would be closed).

Maybe have the roof built with solid material (Fiberglass or whatever) but look like ribbons with pins stuck through almost like a pile of the Hatter's fabric.

Interesting idea. I've always thought a forest/nature look would work well but you're idea has potential.

Something else that needs to be addressed is the transition to Tomorrowland. There's literally nothing there to divide or provide a thematic transition between the two areas. The Carousel entrance gets the nice castle wall, yet the Tea Cup entrance will still be this odd clash of themes.