MAC vs. PC....Please Help!

[Master Yoda]

Agreed, I generally buy all my hardware from newegg, but as far as case modding and the like I use Xoxide.

I have been looking at Frozen CPU and Performance PC. Performance PC seems to be about the only place state side that has the EK waterblocks in stock and they also stock the Conductx chain kits. Frozen CPU seems to have a really good quality selection of wire tools. I still haven't quite decided on what color I am going to sleeve my cables (green or chrome) but depending on the routing it might be a moot point as I am pretty sure I can route all my PSU cables under the motherboard tray.

 

[wdwishes2005]

Oh, and as far as operating systems- Vista in my experience has been the most reliable OS I've used. I used it non-stop for 6 months and off and on for another 6 or so and I have yet to have it crash.

Master Yoda- That website had some pretty cool stuff. Made me wish I had some spare cash lying around to work on my case.

 

[Master Yoda]

Oh, and as far as operating systems- Vista in my experience has been the most reliable OS I've used. I used it non-stop for 6 months and off and on for another 6 or so and I have yet to have it crash.

That is what I intend on using. I am still debating on 32 bit or 64 bit. Right now it seems like several of the OC tools don't work all that well on the 64 bit version but allot can change in a month.

 

[wdwishes2005]

Probably right. I've been using the 64 bit version and I noticed little to no speed decrease from XP home, and this is beta 2 we're talking about. I found it awesome that not even in beta 2 were there crashing problems.

I really need to just build another computer from the ground up, mine's a mess. I started out with a pretty low end compaq, 939 Sempron 3400+ (it was decent at the time), 512 megs of RAM, 120 gb hd, dvd-rw drive, integrated ATI card, generic PSU 350 watt. I then put in a wireless card and an ATI x700 with 256 mb of RAM, got another 512 stick of ram from a friend who ended up with one too many, downloaded the Vista beta and installed over xp, then found out the wireless card drivers didn't support vista, I then bought a driverless external wifi access point, then I got a 160 gb hard drive and installed XP again, tried some case modding, ended up losing the dvd-rw because I made a mistake in ordering a client's parts so I swapped the non-burning one he got for mine, broke the power switch on mine trying to test another computer, and the case window I put in is starting to come apart because the case was too small for it to be supported properly.

 

[Master Yoda]

The mods I am doing on this case are pretty simple. I have completely disassemble the case and repainted it all gloss black with lime green accents (feet, plastic retention rivets for the window and the plastic on the top of the case) and I have cut out the grills for the exhaust fans. The biggest change I did was to reverse the mounting of the PS. Te way is was configures it would blow the hot air back into the case so I flipped it over and cur an exhaust hole.

 

[WaltzingMatilda]

Well, it all boils down to this, do you want to be a trendy hipster kid in a designer hoodie, or a chubby middle-aged guy with glasses?

And Bruce Willis too!

Glad you finally got the joke WDWFreak

However, we shouldn't discount that the PC gets to be on the Daily Show with John Stewart several times a week, and that ain't not half bad!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

And thanks to the OP for starting this thread...I'm on the horns of the same dilemma. I've been threatening to get a laptop for 3 months now, and this thread made up my mind on which to choose.

Mac it is.:sohappy:

 

[CoffeeJedi]

 

[tooltime]

I am not using AutoCadd. I am using VIEW which is a piece of software written exclusively for designing and engineering wood trusses. They test only on PC's and offer zero support for Mac's. I tried running it on our IT guys decked out G5 he usees for ProTools and it barely ran no matter what we did to it.

If you are going to upgrade wait till after the 22nd of this month. Intel will be coming out wit the new 1333 MHz FSB chips so all of the 1066 FSB chips will be taking a major price drop. The Q6600 quad core will drop all the way from about $520 to $260. The E6850 3.0 GHz with a 1333 FSB will also come in at $260. From the earliest reports that I have heard E6850 can be pushed somewhere in the realm of 4-5 GHz on air.



For my build I will more than likely go with the Q6600 quad core vs the new E6850. The E6850 can be pushed a little farther than the quad core but by the time it makes any difference there will be more software utilizing multiple cores so the quad core will have a little more longevity. For the rest of the build I'll be using a DFI 680i motherboard, OCZ 2GB reaper 1066 memory, (6) Hitachi 160 mb HD 4 in RAID 0 and 2 in RAID 5, XFX GeForce 8800GTX 768MB video, Coarsair 620W PS, EK water blocks on the CPU and GPU, DVD and CD burners with light scribe, and about 1/2 a dozen SilenX fans all crammed into a Thermaltake Kandalf LCS case.

I am still debating on weather to liquid cool the motherboard but I will probably wait and see on what my temps are before I go that route. I have still got a little more work to do on the case but I should have it up and running by the middle of next month.

nice build. 1333 FSB... i mispoke, i will need to upgrade my son's ram to take advantage of this. btw good choice on OCZ. one of the best makers of memory for oc.

ron

 

[WaltzingMatilda]

I'm working on an essay comparing Mac OS to men and Windows OS to women...any input greatly appreciated...

 

[wdwishes2005]

As a male I take offense to that :O

 

[unkadug]

Maybe you have it backwards? :shrug:

 

[Master Yoda]

Maybe you have it backwards? :shrug:

I would agree.

 

[bhg469]

I'm working on an essay comparing Mac OS to men and Windows OS to women...any input greatly appreciated...

I worked tech support for a number of years for a major cable internet provider. Im not saying this to be sexist at all but 99% of the time women that i talked to switched because it was the trendy thing to do. The 1% were women that used Macs at work and wanted to work from home.

For your comparison men are like windows cause they do most of the work in the world. and women are like macs in that they try too hard to be pretty and not enough time doing real work.

:drevil:

 

[WaltzingMatilda]

As a male I take offense to that :O

Umm...why?

Maybe you have it backwards? :shrug:

Don't think so...but I'm new to this essay.

I worked tech support for a number of years for a major cable internet provider. Im not saying this to be sexist at all but 99% of the time women that i talked to switched because it was the trendy thing to do. The 1% were women that used Macs at work and wanted to work from home.

For your comparison men are like windows cause they do most of the work in the world. and women are like macs in that they try too hard to be pretty and not enough time doing real work.

:drevil:

Cute.

I was more thinking of it like this...Macs are point and shoot...fairly intuitive to work with. Windows OS, on the other hand, makes you look for file names and God knows what all else before you can do what you want to do...

 

[wdwishes2005]

I was just kidding. Some people in the technical world make fun of macs because it's 'what the people too dumb to make windows work right use' ( not my words or trying to insult, it's just some people's opinions.

 

[maelstrom]

I used Windows for 10 years (1993-2003, so I went through 3.1, 95, 98, ME, & XP, not to mention DOS before that), becoming quite knowledgable in it, before switching to Mac. I didn't switch to be trendy or because I didn't know/understand Windows. I switched because I was tired of Windows' bullsh!t and I wanted to enjoy using my computer and not spend half of the time on it troubleshooting some stupid error that manifested itself sometime between turning my computer off and turning it back on. I love my iBook; it does everything I need it to do, and it behaves while doing it. Sure, it's damn sexy, but that's just a bonus.

 

[wdwishes2005]

I used Windows for 10 years (1993-2003, so I went through 3.1, 95, 98, ME, & XP, not to mention DOS before that), becoming quite knowledgable in it, before switching to Mac. I didn't switch to be trendy or because I didn't know/understand Windows. I switched because I was tired of Windows' bullsh!t and I wanted to enjoy using my computer and not spend half of the time on it troubleshooting some stupid error that manifested itself sometime between turning my computer off and turning it back on. I love my iBook; it does everything I need it to do, and it behaves while doing it. Sure, it's damn sexy, but that's just a bonus.

I still don't get it. What problems did you have? I've been using Xp for 6 years and never once had a problem when i was doing normal things. The only problems I ever encountered was when I messed around in the windows folders or something like that. most BSOD are hardware errors anyway, I can only think of one time I got the BSOD and that was a defective stick of RAM. I have yet to have a full crash in Vista, which I've been using for a little over a year.

 

[WaltzingMatilda]

I was just kidding. Some people in the technical world make fun of macs because it's 'what the people too dumb to make windows work right use' ( not my words or trying to insult, it's just some people's opinions.

:lol:

Yep, I've heard that too! I actually started out with Macs, because my boss always used one and when I bought my own it was a Mac. And we actually use Macs at work still. But a couple of years ago I had to buy a Dell desktop for my DH"s job...this was me::brick: And I'm the "computer expert" in this family! :lol:

Now I'm equally comfortable with both, but that's only because I don't do anything too high tech. I am looking forward to buying the Mac though. I actually price shopped a Dell and after I got done with the add-ons it wasn't that much less than the Mac laptop out of the box.

 

[wdwishes2005]

Yeah, I pretty much hate all pre-built computers. I wish I could build a laptop from the ground up but that's not going to happen. I will probably never buy a pre-built desktop just because I can do 5xs better for 1/2 the price just about every time.

 

[DDuckFan130]

I've never felt comfortable with a Mac (there did I get it right? :lookaroun)

Sure we've had problems with our PC's but we've always had someone to fix it for us and I still love it. My dad recently bought me a Dell desktop for my college graduation and I love it. Comes with Windows Vista and for now I am very happy with it Luckily, if something happens, I have a few resources to go to without resorting to Dell Support which all of you say has been bad :lol: