M:S not up to par??

dxwwf3

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Originally posted by Testtrack321
Walk into this ride with no idea what it will be like. It will be more fun then. Dont' expect it to last 20 mins or that the effects will even be half as good as they really are. Trust me this ride is really good.

Yes definately listen to him. I wish I had the chance to go back and not read a single review.
 

surfsupdon

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I'm not expecting a thrill ride, just a good ride. Snow White is not a thrill ride, but it is a good ride, another example is Haunted Mansion and Pirates. So I was curious if it were good? Many, many people (even on these forums) believe Test Track is not good. Overblown out of proportion.


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I too live near Great Adv, and how terrible is Superman?? Maybe 40 seconds long?? The only good part is the 0.2 seconds where you are on your back looking up at the bottom of the pretzel loop.
 

MrPromey

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Originally posted by Just A Big Kid
So let see if i have this straight, M:S is basically like a Gravitron at the state fair but with TV screens right? Something tells me this will impress me about as much as Test Crap did <sigh> Anyone else miss Horizons yet?? :lol: :brick:

It is about as close to a gravatron as Summit Plummet (in Blizzard beach) is to a typical motel pool slide.

Actually, that isn't even a fair assessment because by your comparison, Tower of Terror is just an indoor version of a relatively cheap ride, too. Pirates of the Carabean is just a tunnel of love ride with a few million dollars worth of animatronics and Splash Mountain is just a log flume ride with a few million dollars of Animatronics and an indoor set.

Heck, Horizons was 'just' a dark ride. You could compare it to Peter Pan or to some degree the cheap haunted house attractions at your local state fair. What was so great about that? <- answer this and you'll have your answer for why Mission Space isn't basically like a Gravitron. Get my point? They both use cyntrifical force but that is where the similarities end.
 

dox

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Originally posted by surfsupdon
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I too live near Great Adv, and how terrible is Superman?? Maybe 40 seconds long?? The only good part is the 0.2 seconds where you are on your back looking up at the bottom of the pretzel loop.

Thread Drift -

It is bad but nothing beats the being on your back and that weird sensation going up the hill. but overall it is dreadfully short and overrated.
 

Walter

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I was not too happy with it. I saw it as another cheap attempt by Disney to inject some "thrill" into their parks. M:S wasn't even that thrilling, anyway.

I've heard so many people saying how "thrilling" it is, but I didn't really find it nearly as thrilling as some may say. Really, the best way to describe it is Star Tours with a few launches. I wasn't expecting anything more than I got. Really, the reason why I was so excited about this ride was because it was the first attraction that I saw go from "start" to "finish." I saw it's entire "birth," you could say.

Anyway, back to the point. Another thing that I had a problem with was the story. What, are we going to Mars, are we just training to go to Mars, what? It seemed to be that we were just training for the occasion, but Mr. Sinise (did the character have a name?) occasionally said "First manned mission to mars." Plus, at the end, he makes a big deal out of you "succeding." And, if you were actually travelling to Mars, then why don't they hide the ride system more. I don't know, maybe I'm just an idiot.

So, it was a thrill ride, and thrill rides are all fun and good, but let me tell you about those. It seems that the main rides Disney used to do were slow moving audio-animatronic rides. Now, it seems to be that they're only doing thrill rides.

So, Disney's two main categories are slow moving audio-animatronic rides and thrill rides, and, when it comes down to it, I'd much rather ride the former than the latter. I'd rather see something amazing, awe-inspiring, touching and loveable than something that makes me scream.

So, all in all, I guess that I would be more pleased if, somehow, they mixed the best of both worlds. They could have built a huge space pavillion that educated you about the space program, and had a thrill ride to the side. I guess that I'll just always love Disney's bread and butter.
 

jwbeck3

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I rode it for the first time July 31st.....when I got off my friend (who just found out what MS was from me like 2 weeks ago) and I looked at each other and said..."wasn't as good as I expected." I thought that based upon the thrill factor alone, everything else about the attraction lived up to my expectations, i.e. the cool factor, que, etc. I was just left wanting more thrill. I rode it 12 more times after that during the AP previews and yesterday. After the 3rd time I really really liked it, and I think it has great repeat value. Except for some reason rides 12 and 13 (I was pilot) were a lot less thrilling. A CM said they found that Engineer (all the way on the right of the pod) was the most intense spot) I found that spot and Navigator to be the msot intense.
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by Walter

Anyway, back to the point. Another thing that I had a problem with was the story. What, are we going to Mars, are we just training to go to Mars, what? It seemed to be that we were just training for the occasion, but Mr. Sinise (did the character have a name?) occasionally said "First manned mission to mars." Plus, at the end, he makes a big deal out of you "succeding." And, if you were actually travelling to Mars, then why don't they hide the ride system more. I don't know, maybe I'm just an idiot.


The whole building is the ISTC - International Space Training Centre. Therefore your entire visit to that pavilion is about training. In the preshows, you are told that you are TRAINING for the first manned mission to Mars.

The succeeding is referring to completing your training mission.
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by Walter
I was not too happy with it. I saw it as another cheap attempt by Disney to inject some "thrill" into their parks. M:S wasn't even that thrilling, anyway.

Space is hardly "cheap". It's had the largest budget in terms of time and money of any of the recent attractions. 650 Imagineers worked on Space over 6 years, with a budget in excess of $100 million.
 

Walter

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Originally posted by wdwmagic
Space is hardly "cheap". It's had the largest budget in terms of time and money of any of the recent attractions. 650 Imagineers worked on Space over 6 years, with a budget in excess of $100 million.

Was it really that expensive? I don't see why. Mainly, what it is is something that spins very fast. When it comes down to it, that's the main point. It doesn't seem as if it would be so expensive. I don't know, maybe a large sum was put into the building.
 

Tim G

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Originally posted by Walter
Was it really that expensive? I don't see why. Mainly, what it is is something that spins very fast. When it comes down to it, that's the main point. It doesn't seem as if it would be so expensive. I don't know, maybe a large sum was put into the building.
At this moment it's $109.400.000 already...
Not counting some further additional costs before october...
But hé.. it's a usual thing for WDI to exceed budgets :D :D :D
 

s25843

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Originally posted by Walter
Was it really that expensive? I don't see why. Mainly, what it is is something that spins very fast. When it comes down to it, that's the main point. It doesn't seem as if it would be so expensive. I don't know, maybe a large sum was put into the building.

The Money was put into inventing the Ride System. Keep in mind that Disney basically took your basic 1 arm Fuge and made it into a 10 arm fuge, never before has this been done, and furthermore it has never been done on an Amusment park ride.

That is where the money went....
 

jcraycraft

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Originally posted by Walter
Was it really that expensive? I don't see why. Mainly, what it is is something that spins very fast. When it comes down to it, that's the main point. It doesn't seem as if it would be so expensive. I don't know, maybe a large sum was put into the building.


Walter did you get a chance to look at the ride system right before entering/exiting the pod? On my 3rd and 4th ride I stopped and looked at it in detail. Being in the engineering field, I for one was very impressed with the construction of the ride system. Look very much like military type construction techniques... we know that is not cheap. But I think as said before most of the money was spent on development of ride system. just my 2 cents
 

s25843

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Originally posted by jcraycraft
Walter did you get a chance to look at the ride system right before entering/exiting the pod? On my 3rd and 4th ride I stopped and looked at it in detail. Being in the engineering field, I for one was very impressed with the construction of the ride system. Look very much like military type construction techniques... we know that is not cheap. But I think as said before most of the money was spent on development of ride system. just my 2 cents

Take alook at the Pods and Fuge arms, these things are heavy Duty!

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MouseRight

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I rode M:S for teh 2nd time over the weekend. 1st Time was several weeks ago. Just my imagination, but it seems like they have tamed down the G Forces since my last ride. Didn't feel as much pressure on my chest as the 1st time. Unless this is due to familarity. I also suggest that if you are prone to motion sickness you should not bother with trying to find the buttons to push when it is your turn. It is not really interactive (The computer overides if you don't push in time) and talking your eyes off the screen to focus and find the buttons makes you dizzier.

My overall impressions are that the ride is cool, but not "The Greatest" I agree with articles that I have read that say that it will not be a repeat attraction for many people. Once you get sick on it, like I did, you don't want to go on it again. I only went on it again because my daughters wanted to and didn't want to go alone. I may try it one more time but will take Dramamine before doing so, to see if that helps.

Technology is impressive and the G Forces I expereinced the 1st time were real cool. They could have made the overall experience better if they had made the Queue better like in Alien Encounter, where you see the Transporattion demonstration. Build up the experience somehow. Show real astronuats in training or show scenes of teh life in space or soemthing. Make you want to go into space. I also think they shouldn't have made it a training mission. Like Dinasaur - The entire experience is geared towards making you think you are going back in time. Let the rider feel that they are really going into space. They keep telling you it is a simulator so your mind accepts that and says - "Oh wow - Another simuator!!"

Overall - Good ride, NOT GReat - Waiting for next adventure.
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by OnWithTheShow
But Disney did not develop the ride system.

But they did integrate the basic multi-arm centrifuge system into a themed attraction, with onboard effects, high resolution video and audio, and a story. I also believe that WDI were working very closely with ETC on that development/research throughout, as it was the first multi-arm centrifuge system, and it was done very much to Disney specifications.

It would be much the same way that Disney did not create the Tower of Terror system, but they did take technlogies from established specialists in the area (Otis and United Technology), and combined it to create something unique.

It would have been foolish for Disney to have researched and built their own centrifuge, when it is possible to work with established specialist organisations.
 

mac388

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Originally posted by Just A Big Kid
So let see if i have this straight, M:S is basically like a Gravitron at the state fair but with TV screens right? Something tells me this will impress me about as much as Test Crap did <sigh> Anyone else miss Horizons yet?? :lol: :brick:

I said the exact same thing to a coworker of mine that just returned back from the annual passholder's preview, when he described it to me! I really don't want to be let down.
 

surfsupdon

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I'm just glad we are getting more opinions than the standard "best ride ever, most technologically advanced, i stood in awe..." responses.

This seems more "real" now that we have 2 sides. Thanks.
 

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