Yep. Now it is for inspiration and conservation as a focus that were not well known before. But your grandkids(or someone their age) will have the opportunity to see these creatures in similar locations.
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News Lou the manatee and three dolphins being relocated from EPCOT
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Yep. Now it is for inspiration and conservation as a focus that were not well known before. But your grandkids(or someone their age) will have the opportunity to see these creatures in similar locations.
LittleBuford
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I hope not, and I very much doubt it.
There are many things not true about this. There will be MMPA rescues and needs at many other facilities. Thankfully, the Dolphins in Captivity have provided great help to rescue the ones in need.
Why? What's wrong with seeing Dolphin's rescued /in rehabilitation sanctuary if the money of admission helps support the care, education and rescues?
LittleBuford
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I may have misunderstood what you meant by “similar locations”. I obviously have no issue with true sanctuaries. And if they can be visited without causing distress to the animals, I have no problem with that either.
Great station, but legit the Cinci Zoo manatee rehab center program is impressive.
Eric Graham
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Thought I would post this as an addition to the current article...Hope this helps!
blogmickey.com
Changes Now Underway at The Seas Pavilion in EPCOT with the Departure of Lou the Manatee
The fan-favorite Lou the manatee has left EPCOT as part of statewide changes to manatee rehabilitation - we take a look at the changes
blogmickey.com
TrainsOfDisney
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Was Lou considered too big for the space? I’m not sure if manatees bond but it seems like after so many years it’s sad that Lou and Joe are separated. :-/
EPCOT's Manatee Exhibit Closed as New Residents Expected at The Seas with Nemo and Friends
EPCOT's Manatee Exhibit Closed as New Residents Expected at The Seas with Nemo and Friends
EPCOT's Manatee Exhibit Closed as New Residents Expected at The Seas with Nemo and Friends
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Captain Barbossa
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As the article states, new manatees will be arriving soon.
It will be manatees
I have to wonder what the daily, monthly or yearly operational costs are for the entire Seas pavilion. "If" Burbank's goal is to reduce overall park operations costs to improve bottom-line revenue, maybe cutting the entire pavilion could be beneficial. How many people does it draw in a day vs how much does it cost to show that attraction to each guest?
A long-time insider (who I will not name) once told me that Burbank has calculations for how much an attraction costs them to show each guest every day. It goes like this:
Attraction X =
Cost to build + cost to operate and maintain every day versus how many people visit that attraction every day.
In other words: If Attraction "X" Costs $100 dollars a day (simple number) and 100 people use that attraction, this means that Disney spends $1 per customer to provide it to them. If it cost a guest $10 to get into the park, that attraction "X" absorbed $1 dollar of "profit" away from that customer. The calculations are FAR more complex than this, but you get the rough idea.
If attraction "X" has a very high operations cost and a low attendence, this produces bad "cost per guest" ratio. I had also heard that HarmonioUS specifically had a very bad "cost per guest" ratio.
Yes, I was very surprised to hear that Burbank calculates these "per-guest" cost consumption numbers like this.
I REALLY love the Seas pavilion but given the need for deep daily operational cuts, maybe it's time to bulldoze it to the ground? I dunno. I certainly hope not and hope it has favorable ratio numbers.
2025-2026 parks attendance numbers and Disney quarterly earnings reports are going to be FACINATING to watch in the next couple of years. "If" business divisions are down, deeper parks cuts WILL be required.
Only time will tell....
A long-time insider (who I will not name) once told me that Burbank has calculations for how much an attraction costs them to show each guest every day. It goes like this:
Attraction X =
Cost to build + cost to operate and maintain every day versus how many people visit that attraction every day.
In other words: If Attraction "X" Costs $100 dollars a day (simple number) and 100 people use that attraction, this means that Disney spends $1 per customer to provide it to them. If it cost a guest $10 to get into the park, that attraction "X" absorbed $1 dollar of "profit" away from that customer. The calculations are FAR more complex than this, but you get the rough idea.
If attraction "X" has a very high operations cost and a low attendence, this produces bad "cost per guest" ratio. I had also heard that HarmonioUS specifically had a very bad "cost per guest" ratio.
Yes, I was very surprised to hear that Burbank calculates these "per-guest" cost consumption numbers like this.
I REALLY love the Seas pavilion but given the need for deep daily operational cuts, maybe it's time to bulldoze it to the ground? I dunno. I certainly hope not and hope it has favorable ratio numbers.
2025-2026 parks attendance numbers and Disney quarterly earnings reports are going to be FACINATING to watch in the next couple of years. "If" business divisions are down, deeper parks cuts WILL be required.
Only time will tell....
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Tha Realest
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If this is the case, then why do the railroads still exist? Minimal, fixed number of guests per hour x obscene operational costs
peter11435
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The railroad does not have a minimal capacity.
DisneyCane
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Slightly off topic but is there really that much difference between dolphins in captivity and dogs or cats living inside a house or apartment? Those pets are restricted to an area that is a lot smaller than their natural territory and don't have the freedom to do much that they would do naturally.
DisneyCane
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I haven't been able to visit the manatees since years ago when I visited and noticed that Vail was missing. Instead of happily assuming he had been returned to the wild I made the mistake of asking a CM about him and found out that he had gone to the grand canal in the sky.
