LOL Universal compares them self better than disney

chels26

New Member
as we all are here... we are obsessed with Disney. and the one time i went to Universal.. i felt like i was cheating on my beloved disney. But, i surprisingly enjoyed myself. I too have Six Flags Great Adventure.. and i would compare it to that. Six flags is fun.. but i dont think about it every day, i don't join boards about it, i don't google or youtube them because I miss it.

but what i really do have to say is.. correct me if i am wrong.. Disney isn't going to lower itself and make commercials and advertise their park being better that universal or sea world. They don't need to. And i do like universal.. but i think it's a bit pathetic that they "compare" themselves to the most popular themepark in the world and try to make themselves look better. People go to your parks, but it's never going to be better, not even come CLOSE to being like Disney.
 

CThaddeus

New Member
I've only been to Universal Studios in LA and it was the worst theme park I've ever been to. IOA looks really interesting but from what I can tell, I don't think Universal and Disney is much of a comparison.

While I don't think it is the worst theme park I've ever been to, I agree, Universal Hollywood isn't all that and a bag of chips. I had a free pass that was about to expire and since I hadn't been there in five years (even though I only live about 45 minutes away), I decided to check it out. Briefly, here's my feelings about that park (and the reasons I've so far avoided its sister in Orlando):
1. It is a huge mess. There are no "lands," so to speak. It's all just jumbled together, where everything is fighting to draw your attention. For example, Back to the Future is a few steps away from a Flintstones carnival area, a Nickolodeon fun zone, the entrance to the Tram Tour, and the Fear Factor show. I've been there enough times to know the layout of the park, so I don't get lost, but I could easily see how a first-timer could.
2. Jerkiness - Many of the attractions seem to be about how much can we throw you around (Shrek, Back to the Future, Revenge of the Mummy, and even the Tram Tour to a degree). It's not just light jerkiness, either. It's more of a throw you like a ragdoll style. I still think Back to the Future should have been called Back to the Chiropractor.
3. Water - They love to hit you with water and mist. I know it gets hot out there, but is it really necessary to hit me with some form of water on everything (Jurassic Park, Revenge of the Mummy, Shrek, Back to the Future, and the Tram Tour)? It's bad enough the queues are filled with misters. Should I go back again, I guess I'll have to leave the cameras at home.
4. Bad sound mixing - At a movie studio I would expect that sound would be a priority. However, I found that instead of being able to hear the characters tell the "story" in each ride, I instead either heard only the people around me, the background music, or the annoying sound effects. On Back to the Future, the preshow was turned down to a point where it was inaudible. Then, in the actual ride, the Doc Brown video worked, but the audio didn't. Then, on Revenge of the Mummy, the same thing happened. Some character was being projected on a video screen above us, but I couldn't hear a word he was saying. Why bother with an attempt at a story if you're not even going to make that story audible?
5. Loudness - This sort of goes along with #4, but everywhere I went, it just felt like an overload of noise. They actually have barkers in front of each attraction screaming out wait times, what kind of attraction it is, etc. Then there's loud BGM, loud sound effects, and consequently, loud customers. I had a headache when I left that day from the awful din.
6. The attractions seemed half-a$$ed - Unlike Disney, they don't fully commit to the experience you're about to have. During the attraction or show you can see how everything works, where the lights are, etc. Maybe that's intentional because "it's a movie studio," but it just feels like they decided to cheese out instead. I used to love the E.T. Ride, but this was always my biggest complaint about it. You could see the lights, the human animatronics were lame, and so forth.
These are just a few of my major beefs with Universal, and the reason I only go once in a great while. I do happen to like the Tram Tour. It's one of those things that Universal actually has done better than Disney. But it is about the only thing I can really say I like there.
I keep hearing Spider-Man is a great attraction. I've considered going to Universal Studios Florida just to check it out...but considering how little I like the rest of Hollywood's, I don't know that I can justify $70 for one ride. Maybe I'll check it out after Harry Potter land opens.
 

gusgoose

Member
This has been up for a long time, it probably just hasn't been updated.

As for coasters...

UO
Dueling Dragons - Fire
Dueling Dragons - Ice
The Flying Unicorn
Incredible Hulk Coaster
Revenge of the Mummy
Woody Woodpecker's Nuthouse Coaster

WDW
The Barnstormer at Goofy's Wiseacre Farm
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
Expedition Everest
Primeval Whirl - A
Primeval Whirl - B
Space Mountain - Alpha
Space Mountain - Omega
Rock 'n Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith

I'm sick and tired of the whole "OmGzZ uNiVeRsAl Iz jUsT cOaStErZ aNd ThRiLl RiDeZ!!!1!" thing. If it was, stuff like E.T. Adventure, Seuss Landing, The Flying Unicorn, etc. wouldn't be around.

Come on, really? You just gave Space Mountain credit as if it's two different roller coasters?

I definitely agree with the general sentiment that Disney World is a much better overall "experience" than Universal Studios.

But in terms of rides, Universal/IOA compares pretty favorably. Especially if you consider you're comparing two parks to four parks. If you picked just two Disney parks (EPCOT and MK, MK and AK, MK and MGM, etc.) and matched them up against Universal and IOA... I'd take the Disney parks any day, but in terms of just pure rides I'll take Universal.
 

gusgoose

Member
I think this is a silly marketing campaign by Universal, unless they opened a third park and/or really expanded their "resort" area, they're not going to be able to compete against Disney.

I think people misconstrue that a lot, thinking Disney and Universal are in competition with each other. Like all those people who are worried that Disney needs to expand or refurbish things to compete against the upcoming Harry Potter area.

But they're not in direct competition with each other. They're both competing against every other vacation destination in the world, not to mention the movies, sporting events, concerts and anything else people spend their "entertainment" budget on.

If anything Disney and Universal help each other out, if someone visits Orlando for one, they're likely to give the other a chance. Which is why I'm surprised Universal would market itself as the anti-Disney.
 

I-4Warrior

New Member
I like the U, but it isn't Disney either in quality or enjoyability. There's something magical about WDW that Universal can't capture. Universal is spectacular in its own right, but they truly are #2... and they know it. #1 can usually sit comfortably and know that as long as they don't drop the ball, and occassionally add some new and exciting things, they don't have to look in the rearview mirror with other than the infrequent glance. #2 meanwhile always knows they're not the best and must strive to be the champ. What Universal is doing is the old tactic that Pepsi employs and that Burger King employs.. if you can't produce a product that the masses will make #1, mention #1 as often as you can and denegrate their accomplishments and maybe by your snarky comparisons, you'll convince some simps that you really are the best.
 

pat_naughty05

New Member
This has been up for a long time, it probably just hasn't been updated.

As for coasters...

UO
Dueling Dragons - Fire
Dueling Dragons - Ice
The Flying Unicorn
Incredible Hulk Coaster
Revenge of the Mummy
Woody Woodpecker's Nuthouse Coaster

WDW
The Barnstormer at Goofy's Wiseacre Farm
Big Thunder Mountain Railroad
Expedition Everest
Primeval Whirl - A
Primeval Whirl - B
Space Mountain - Alpha
Space Mountain - Omega
Rock 'n Roller Coaster Starring Aerosmith

I'm sick and tired of the whole "OmGzZ uNiVeRsAl Iz jUsT cOaStErZ aNd ThRiLl RiDeZ!!!1!" thing. If it was, stuff like E.T. Adventure, Seuss Landing, The Flying Unicorn, etc. wouldn't be around.

The two sides of Primeval Whirl and Space Mountain are identical, while Fire and Ice on Dueling Dragons are two completely different rides (though I always refer to it as a single attraction). That would make the two resorts equal in coaster count.

Also, I noticed someone mentioned the comparison between Universal's Express for hotel guests and Disney's Fastpass. I haven't seen this mentioned yet, but guests at Universal resorts get UNLIMITED Express access to all attractions at the resort. No waiting for a specific time to come back. You just show your hotel room key at the entrance to the attraction and walk right in as many times as you wish during your stay.
 

Testtrack321

Well-Known Member
If you look at the total package picture: IMHO this is the pecking order:

1. Disney
2. Universal/IOA
3. Cedar Point
4. Six Flags ParK(only point of reference Arlington, St Louis, Houston, San Antonio)
5. State Fair

You missed Busch, which is defiantly above Cedar Point in quality...

Come on, really? You just gave Space Mountain credit as if it's two different roller coasters?

What gets me more is that he said Primeval Whirl counts as if it's two different coasters. Sure, not the same track, but it's more of a clone than Space Mountain is....

Only two things I think Universal does better....

-some of their CM "performers" in attractions (PR lady at Terminator) are amazing and better than anything Disney can offer

-Blue Man beats out Cirque any day IMHO
 

NemoRocks78

Seized
IMO, if Dueling Dragons has to always be counted as two seperate coasters, so should Space Mountain because the tracks aren't exactly identical either. I guess I went a bit overboard by listing both Primeval Whirl tracks (and I apologize for that - this stuff always gets me in a frenzy), but still, the whole "Universal is all coasters and thrills" argument is getting pretty damn old.
 

Tinkerbella16

Well-Known Member
1 full week in WDW is NEVER enough time to see and do everything you'd like to. 2 days at UIOA is more than enough time to see and do everything. Right there says a lot about Universal. They don't have so much to offer, where as disney has a whole lot of fun to offer to their guests.

And Disney does not go out of their way to put down Universal, because they already know who grows more attendance. There's no need for any of those petty comparisons when it really comes down to it. :D
 

disneytopdog

Active Member
You missed Busch, which is defiantly above Cedar Point in quality...



What gets me more is that he said Primeval Whirl counts as if it's two different coasters. Sure, not the same track, but it's more of a clone than Space Mountain is....

Only two things I think Universal does better....

-some of their CM "performers" in attractions (PR lady at Terminator) are amazing and better than anything Disney can offer

-Blue Man beats out Cirque any day IMHO

OOPS...the only Bush property I have been to is Sea World in Orlando and I equate that to being a zoo. Only due to the fact that last time I was there they had no rides other than this Atlantis simulator ride that was a copy of Star Tours. The ocean motion just made me sick. I think it was hosted/narrated by Hugh Downs of ABC or Walter Cronkite
 

sbkline

Well-Known Member
sorry if this has been posted before but I nearly fell out of my chair LOL when i was looking for park info on universal studios website and stumbled onto a page where universal made a table up showing all the pro / cons why universal is better than disney LOL they even said that their hotel guests get free fast passes where as disney dont do fast pass for their hotel guests LOL:ROFLOL: ummmm thats because there free to all people. (i feel so sorry for the person that had made this list up as it must have been hard to think of things.

i mean i think universal is ok, nice for a day away from disney but how they can compare them self i dont know lol


take a look for yourself if you haven't already seen it

http://www.universalorlando.com/disney_comparision.html

Gee, what a suprise. A company advertises its product and claims that theirs is better than that of the competition. In my 32 years on this Earth, I've never, ever seen that advertising technique. :rolleyes:

Seriously folks, get a grip. Every company does this. What do you expect...for them to say "Hey folks, we're not as good as the competition but here's why you should patronize us instead of them anyway"? :shrug:

Of course they're gonna claim to be better then the competition. Whether or not they are, is up to the consumer to decide. Myself, I think Disney is far better, but there are others who would disagree. But I certainly expect nothing less from any company than to boast that their product is better then the competition. That's what advertising and competition is all about. But enough of the petty Universal bashing already.
 

disneytopdog

Active Member
A few years ago Six Flags(Arlington) actually had a advertising campaign bringing up Disney in it. It was something like "Six Flags faster, wilder and closer than Disney" What a joke that was!!!
 

EPCOT.nut

Well-Known Member
correction... i paid $15 for my fast pass, and that queue actually moves alot quicker when at disney's. Also the one associated with the hotel is pretty much every ride in the park and unlimited.

more to the point - universal isnt just about thrill rides either. Basically i agree with nemo rocks - there is alot of kids rides at universal also...

I'd jump on the opportunity to buy fastpasses for WDW like Universal offers.
 

doop

Well-Known Member
I've never visited Universal so I can't actually talk negatively about it, however that is still a pretty lousy way to market their product.
 

hack2112

Active Member
The ONLY time I go to Uni is for their Halloween Horror Nights. IMO it cannot be beat. may be if Disney did a scarier Halloween event... But one can only imagine the complaints and lawsuits if that ever happens...
 

sbkline

Well-Known Member
I've never visited Universal so I can't actually talk negatively about it, however that is still a pretty lousy way to market their product.

Once again, lots of companies compare themselves to the competition and make their case for why their product is a better choice. Why should this be viewed any differently? :shrug:
 

Zummi Gummi

Pioneering the Universe Within!
A few years ago Six Flags(Arlington) actually had a advertising campaign bringing up Disney in it. It was something like "Six Flags faster, wilder and closer than Disney" What a joke that was!!!

That was a national campaign, because our Six Flags (Great Adventure) showed the same ads. Six Flags also used to claim they were, "bigger than Disneyland."

I don't care if Universal compares themselves to Disney, that's business. It's going to happen all the time. I take issue with some of the blatant factual innaccuracies and strange method of doing so- comparing a ride to a film? If you truly believe your product is better, than stand behind it. Don't come up with these cockamamie comparisons where the things you compare aren't even related.
 

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