News Live-Action Tangled Remake in Development

[BrianLo]

They made the right call in making more merch, sure. And yes, the advertising & marketing of the remake’s release and the merchandise push in general helped further bring awareness of Stitch as a character/brand. But I wish we could see a split data sheet that shows the sales numbers of specific versions of the character/film. I wanna see which one sells more. Don’t care what the results are, I’d accept either result as-is, it’s the reality, I’m just curious to see which one is selling more.

I understand what you are saying, but there isn’t really a major consumer facing difference. And that’s why it was both smart they didn’t go off model and irrelevant to the thing you want to parse.

I mean on one hand you buy a printed T and I guess can tell the inspiration. On the other hand you buy a plushie and no one is thinking to themselves I’m buying the live action stitch plushie.

I don’t even know the difference. It’s just Stitch.

Very different than quite a few other films that went way off model.

https://www.disneystore.eu/characters-and-movies/disney/lilo-and-stitch

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Admittedly, there is some split merch that looks different based on each version. The shading, fur texture & quality, look of the eyes, some of the shape, etc. But, the curious thing you also notice. Isn’t it funny how the majority of the merch (including new) is Infact based on the original animated film and not the remake. Wonder why that is? And it then begs the question. If they know the remake iterations either won’t sell as much merch or aren’t worth making merch of. Then what is the point, outside of ticket sales off nostalgic name association alone, of continuing to go the route they are in producing “live action” remakes.. hmm

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Makes me wonder if The Lion King has something more we could go off. Or if they also keep sales numbers under “one and the same brand”… despite technically two different films, interesting…and again, there’s that kicker.. they know the nostalgic merch is the one worth selling and that sells.. yet, they won’t re-release the classics as they were with theatrical exclusive material (whether that be new bloopers, bts content, interviews, new shorts featuring the characters, etc.). Pretty weird if you ask me..

 

[BrianLo]

Makes me wonder if The Lion King has something more we could go off. Or if they also keep sales numbers under “one and the same brand”… despite technically two different films, interesting…

Yes, I think your line of thinking is correct, but Stitch is just not the right example.

The other movies where there is a more clear delineation in merch lines don’t sell as well. But the goal is not usually to make a new IP, it’s to boost the one they already have. So if the “old line” is boosted as well, that’s the same end point.

Which is why I think increasingly they’ve learned the safe bet is: the closer to on-model, the better with the remakes.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

the goal is not usually to make a new IP, it’s to boost the one they already have. So if the “old line” is boosted as well, that’s the same end point.

Which is why I think increasingly they’ve learned the safe bet is: the closer to on-model, the better with the remakes.

Which again, begs the question. Why then reimagine it, when it’s supposed to be the same IP. And if the closer on-model, the better. Why not just re-release.. the proven successful ‘on-model’ versions, with on-model new theatrical release exclusive bonus material like new shorts, bloopers, behind the scenes material/interviews w crew & cast, etc. , that’d match with the high selling ‘on-model’ merch. I swear..

 

[BrianLo]

Which again, begs the question. Why then reimagine it, when it’s supposed to be the same IP. And if the closer on-model, the better. Why not just re-release.. the proven successful ‘on-model’ versions, with on-model new theatrical release exclusive bonus material like new shorts, bloopers, behind the scenes material/interviews, etc. , that’d match with the high selling ‘on-model’ merch. I swear..

Because we cannot point to any re-release with a clear annual 2.4 Billion dollar swing in theatrical receipts and merchandise, ever.

I don't have the figure for Lion King's merch bump in 2011, but as the second highest re-release of all time, it made 186M in 2011. The 2019 remake made 1.66B.

There's an argument to be made about brand deposits or withdrawals, of course. But when it is a deposit, like it seems to have been for Stitch, it was a big one. The problem is if they actually "understand" what it is they should be chasing or are just being reckless. I'd say it's a bit of both and depends on the production. There's some of these films that have improved their IP and others that have clearly knocked it down a peg.

Though if you are asking if there is no financial incentive to remake films? No, the data does not support that position. Nor would the company be chasing them if they didn't think there was a financial incentive.

 

[FigmentsBrightIdeas]

Because we cannot point to any re-release with a clear annual 2.4 Billion dollar swing in theatrical receipts and merchandise, ever.

I don't have the figure for Lion King's merch bump in 2011, but as the second highest re-release of all time, it made 186M in 2011. The 2019 remake made 1.66B.

There's an argument to be made about brand deposits or withdrawals, of course. But when it is a deposit, like it seems to have been for Stitch, it was a big one. The problem is if they actually "understand" what it is they should be chasing or are just being reckless. I'd say it's a bit of both and depends on the production. There's some of these films that have improved their IP and others that have clearly knocked it down a peg.

Though if you are asking if there is no financial incentive to remake films? No, the data does not support that position. Nor would the company be chasing them if they didn't think there was a financial incentive.

Fair enough, Thanks for the insight/information. I appreciate it.