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News Live-Action Tangled Remake in Development

Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Brer Panther said:
I don't think ANYTHING will make them stop the live action remakes. Snow White came so close, but then Lilo and Stitch made a billion dollars and I'm sure Moana will too. I'm sure by the time this is released they'll already have announced live action adaptations of Zootopia and Encanto too.
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Zootopia, probably not as full live action animal only casts haven't worked out too well in the past for other studios (see Cats), but Encanto I could see. Same with the others that got put on pause like Hercules. We already know they are moving forward with Gaston, and even with Stitch 2.

Heck I wouldn't even be opposed to them doing a live action Black Cauldron either.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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I think Tangled has all the right stuff to be a big financial win at the box office. No sequel, a beloved film, and PLENTY of time since it was first released.

I actually worry for Moana, as Moana 2 was not that great, and not that long ago. I could see people skipping it. It won't bomb like Snow White, but I am not sure about 1 billion, yet.
 
Brer Panther

Brer Panther

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Disney Irish said:
Zootopia, probably not as full live action animal only casts haven't worked out too well in the past for other studios (see Cats)
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Yeah, but the Lion King remake made a ton of money even though it wasn't actually live action. I could see them having the mindset that so long as they use photorealistic CGI instead of the weird motion-capture or whatever technology they used in Cats, they'll be fine.
 
FigmentsBrightIdeas

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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LOL! Still going with the absolutley pointless live action remakes I see. Nothing like showing appreciation to your animation studios and talent like saying, “Yeah, your talent, your work, the impact ‘that’ made. Useless. Not worth re-releasing in theaters with new content (new shorts, new behind the scenes content, etc.) or merchandising more unless we have another director & team come in and copy it scene by scene, possibly adding in some more stuff that isn’t necessary/doesn’t make any sense, while misunderstanding and removing all the intentional detail & artistry out of it, to make it more “real”. The new generation doesn’t deserve to see the film as intended, they instead deserve a lousy copy instead of being able to experience the same films their parents, grandparents, etc. did or even their own original classics. And that’s not even getting into how useless they feel their live action studio talent is apparently.
Truth be told though, if their new original live action films are doing badly as-is.. and the fact they need to hide that lack of creative talent with these soulless remakes, should tell you ‘a lot’ about the state of the live action studio, truth be told. What a shame..
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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MisterPenguin said:
Live action remakes have more hits than failures when compared to original movies.

The general audience has spoken. And opened their wallets.
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Not long-term.. and it sounds more like the studio doesn’t want to take the deserved blame for failing to both cultivate & properly utilize good talent and filmmaking techniques when making originals. Add advertising (or lack thereof) on top of it. They know precisely what they’re doing and it’s gross.
 
FigmentsBrightIdeas

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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MisterPenguin said:
Yes. Long term. Cf Stitch.

Where do you see long term diminishing returns? Or is that just a guess it will happen?
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Has the Lilo & Stitch remake gotten good ratings compared to the original since its hit streaming? Quality is what ultimately wins in the end long-term. If given the choice, would merchandise of the original Lilo & Stitch sell more or the remake? Now, I don’t have data in front of me (I’d actually love to see some if anyone does), but I have a hunch merch of the original would sell more. Based on both the quality and superior (and intentional) design work. I personally think the remakes get returns based on their first theatrical run and name off association with the superior originals only and that’s it. Most think the remakes are worse or wish they would’ve just rewatched the original again after watching. If folks had the choice between seeing the original and a live action remake in theaters though, I have a hunch they’d wanna see the original again instead if they had a choice. Or after viewing both, they’d find the originals better, thus, future merch purchases going towards the original rather than the remake.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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FigmentsBrightIdeas said:
Has the Lilo & Stitch remake gotten good ratings compared to the original since its hit streaming? Quality is what ultimately wins in the end long-term. If given the choice, would merchandise of the original Lilo & Stitch sell more or the remake? Now, I don’t have data in front of me (I’d actually love to see some if anyone does), but I have a hunch merch of the original would sell more. Based on both the quality and superior (and intentional) design work. I personally think the remakes get returns based on their first theatrical run and name off association with the superior originals only and that’s it.
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I didn't mention anything about ratings. I mentioned guests spending money to see them. That makes the studios money and a surer bet on profit compared to movies with original stories. The general audience is voting with their wallet. Live action remakes do better than original movies.

Now, how many more times do I need to make this point before you stop trying to pivot the topic to how you don't like live action remakes, and acknowledge that the general audience's behavior doesn't align with your opinion?
 
FigmentsBrightIdeas

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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If there’s data proving any of my points wrong or heck, even right. Please, do share it.
MisterPenguin said:
acknowledge that the general audience's behavior doesn't align with your opinion?
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we don’t know that yet.. is there any data proving, with the same level and type of marketing techniques, that audiences wouldn’t respond the same way? Give them a genuine choice, and both original films a chance, and the genuine classics re-released a chance at doing well with a proper, well marketed & merchandised theatrical release, and see what happens in comparison.

Otherwise, we then have to pivot to merchandise sales based on specific versions of the films. That should tell you something more. We also have to take future re-releases, both in physical media and theatrical into consideration too. Would the remakes genuinely sell more tickets, physical media sales, and merch sales, over the classics (aswell as originals, given if the amount of marketing & merchandising is the same for each?)
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I personally think originals are being sabotaged lately up in corporate in order to not have a proper chance of doing well. And again, the classics genuinely re-released theatrically with bonus bts material, maybe new animated bloopers, and new shorts, etc. hasn’t been attempted yet when they should. But if not, I don’t mind being proven wrong.
 
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MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
FigmentsBrightIdeas said:
If there’s data proving any of my points wrong or heck, even right. Please, do share it.
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I mentioned the success of Live Action Stitch. Live action remakes continue, and they continue to do well with regard to attendance by the general public when compared to original films. There is no discernible self-destruction of live action remakes happening at this time.

I've said what I've said and that's all I'll say since you want to fight in a different arena that I have no intention of entering. Our dear readers will be our judges.

Good day.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
FigmentsBrightIdeas said:
I personally think originals are being sabotaged lately up in corporate in order to not have a proper chance of doing well. And again, the classic genuinely re-released with bonus material and new shorts, etc. haven’t been attempted yet when they should. But if not, I don’t mind being proven wrong.
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No one can prove a conspiracy theory -- based on nothing -- as being wrong.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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MisterPenguin said:
No one can prove a conspiracy theory based on nothing as being wrong.
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Budgets on data sheets for the marketing budgets and looking on social media and such to see, how many posts, etc. there are referencing the theatrical release of something, trailers, maybe. Also, how many physical advertisements you see on billboards, bus wraps, posters at bus stops, etc. Not to mention Disney + ads. Basically, the choice on how much investment they’re putting into certain things compared to others. There has to be a reasoning for those decisions, yes?
 
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Disgruntled Walt

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