Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Vegas Disney Fan]

The deciding factor will be whether the film is any good or not. I dislike what’s been revealed of it thus far, but bigger surprises have happened.

100% agree, if they can put out a great finished product and make the $ half billion (or whatever) it’s going to take to turn a profit from this debacle I’ll never badmouth Disney studios again, it would be the greatest recovery ever.

I’m guessing if they can minimize losses to even $100 million they’ll consider it a huge success at this point.

 

[Trauma]

Stop breaking forum rules.

First of all you are breaking them right along with me.

Secondly, I wanted to see well thought out responses like the one @LittleBuford gave.

We are able to have a discourse without having a breakdown and calling each other names.

Also I don’t pretend to be correct. It’s possible that this “modern audience” will one day show up to the movies.

Maybe Disney can just do a better job of making the political messaging organic.

It’s only when they shove it in your face, and then go on and on about how amazing they are on social, that it becomes nauseating.

 

[Trauma]

I denounce both, but I also understand why one may be viewed as more serious than the other. I’ll share this analogy for the third time, because I think it’s helpful, though no-one has yet responded to it:

It's the same difference as between "The people who run Disney today are a cancer on the company" (which I personally wish people wouldn't say) and "Disney fans are like cancer victims" (which I think is taking the comparison to a different and more egregious place).​

I clearly don’t like the use of the word cancer. That’s something that affects everyone negatively.

I think it’s fine to say Iger is a moron. He is a public figure who gets payed well and taking criticism is part of the job.

 

[erasure fan1]

I didn’t say she did. I was precise in my language and stand by what I said. You have a habit of misreading me and consequently putting words in my mouth.

I didn't say you did either. I'm not putting words in your mouth. You asked me how I interpreted what she said, and I told you. What you said, was extremely vague, something I've noticed from you. I was just breaking it down further, to the point she was trying to make.

 

[Trauma]

The analogy has been used in the forum several times to criticise the current state of the Disney Company, and reactions to it have been mixed. I’ve voiced my opposition to it, while others say they feel it’s an acceptable figure of speech. I think there would be a much stronger reaction, however, if people took the analogy further by associating Disney fans with cancer sufferers—most, I feel, would consider that too extreme and inappropriate. I see a similar distinction at play between Pascal and Carano’s respective invocations of Nazism (neither of which I found appropriate).

I see what you’re saying. Why take something to the extreme to make your point.

I can voice my displeasure with something without invoking cancer or Nazis.

 

[erasure fan1]

I can be accused of many things, but this is the first time I’ve been called vague. I don’t think my posting record bears out that characterisation, but its not my place to change your perception of me.

I'm just talking about our interactions, I'm not reading everything you post. And you just said I have a tendency to put words in your mouth, and then that's exactly what you do. When did I say you needed to change my perception of you?

 

[Cliff]

To Burbank ececutives: It might be a good idea to re-imagaine the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train attraction now. The new movie has seemed to "fix" the problematic issues ftom the old movie. I think it's justified now to move that "fix" over to this outdated roller coaster attraction. Y'know,...give it the "Splash Mountain to Tiana's" treatment.

If the idea worked for "Splash", then it would be idiologically consistant to apply the same thought to the Mine Train now. Plus, it would be a great idea to promote the new movie by keeping the new Snow White movie message, theme and look in-line across the entire business structure.

You don't want to confuse customers by having two competing versions of her. (Walt's legacy Snow Whire vs Zegler's modern Snow White)

A re-imagine and re-skin should not take that long.

 

[Chi84]

To Burbank ececutives: It might be a good idea to re-imagaine the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train attraction now. The new movie has seemed to "fix" the problematic issues ftom the old movie. I think it's justified now to move that "fix" over to this outdated roller coaster attraction. Y'know,...give it the "Splash Mountain to Tiana's" treatment.

If the idea worked for "Splash", then it would be idiologically consistant to apply the same thought to the Mine Train now. Plus, it would be a great idea to promote the new movie by keeping the new Snow White movie message, theme and look in-line across the entire business structure.

You don't want to confuse customers by having two competing versions of her. (Walt's legacy Snow Whire vs Zegler's modern Snow White)

A re-imagine and re-skin should not take that long.

What’s wrong with Snow White?

 

[Trauma]

To Burbank ececutives: It might be a good idea to re-imagaine the Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs Mine Train attraction now. The new movie has seemed to "fix" the problematic issues ftom the old movie. I think it's justified now to move that "fix" over to this outdated roller coaster attraction. Y'know,...give it the "Splash Mountain to Tiana's" treatment.

If the idea worked for "Splash", then it would be idiologically consistant to apply the same thought to the Mine Train now. Plus, it would be a great idea to promote the new movie by keeping the new Snow White movie message, theme and look in-line across the entire business structure.

You don't want to confuse customers by having two competing versions of her. (Walt's legacy Snow Whire vs Zegler's modern Snow White)

A re-imagine and re-skin should not take that long.

I know you’re trolling with this post but please don’t ever use the words “Splash” “Tiana’s” and “worked” in the same sentence again.

Thank you.

 

[DKampy]

Is Hollywood even capable of making mid- and low budget theatrical releases anymore?

The still do… and as someone who goes to the theater every week… some excellent one as well…. Problem is the masses mostly only care about big budget spectacle

 

[Chi84]

Here's the big question. Who is going take this target audience to go see it? The problem is if you tick off the parents, odds are they aren't bringing the kids.

That’s where I disagree. It would have to be a pretty petty parent to deny their kids a movie based on some adult politics the kids don’t even understand.

 

[Chi84]

First of all you are breaking them right along with me.

In fairness, you did say:

so I’ll stop after this.

 

[DKampy]

Here's the big question. Who is going take this target audience to go see it? The problem is if you tick off the parents, odds are they aren't bringing the kids.

Who says all parents are offended….no parents in my circle let social media dictate what they will take their families to

 

[Andrew C]

Are we supposed to get an updated trailer any time soon?

 

[Disney Irish]

I know I’m breaking forum rules so I’ll stop after this. Please post your rebuttals though as I’m genuinely interested in your response.

For years now Disney movies have been struggling and people have been trying to say it’s because of the clearly forced political messaging in the movies.

Those people have been shouted down and told they are just a small racist, sexist group of idiots in their Moms basements review bombing Star Wars movies.

It turns out however that they just might have been right.

Maybe the majority of the country doesn’t want forced political messaging in movies, and just wants to go enjoy a show.

Having your actress go off on a hissy fit about the majority of the country is not a good look.

I know most people are not paying attention, but why was that not an acceptable excuse for Gina Carano?

I think we need to be careful when we say the "majority" of anything. For example saying the "majority" of the country feels a certain way or has given a certain directive is factually incorrect. It's actually more likely a majority of voters who voted in the recent election but its not actually the "majority" of this countries population. The reality is that only represents about 20% of the entire population of the country, which is hardly a "majority".

 

[Trauma]

Who says all parents are offended….no parents in my circle let social media dictate what they will take their families to

No but most parents let their values dictate what they will take their families to. Every parent in my circle who has seen this trailer has no plans of taking their children too it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

That’s where I disagree. It would have to be a pretty petty parent to deny their kids a movie based on some adult politics the kids don’t even understand.

I wonder if the kid understands that their parent is being petty when their parent says to their kid, "sorry dear we don't have the money to go the the movies, but we can watch it when it makes it on to Disney+"

 

[Chi84]

No but most parents let their values dictate what they will take their families to. Every parent in my circle who has seen this trailer has no plans of taking their children too it.

What in the trailer violates anyone’s values?

 

[Trauma]

I think we need to be careful when we say the "majority" of anything. For example saying the "majority" of the country feels a certain way or has given a certain directive is factually incorrect. It's actually more likely a majority of voters who voted in the recent election but it’s not actually the "majority" of this countries population. The reality is that only represents about 20% of the entire population of the country, which is hardly a "majority".

Sure but I could argue we don’t have any better method of determining what the majority is.

 

[Chi84]

I wonder if the kid understands that their parent is being petty when their parent says to their kid, "sorry dear we don't have the money to go the the movies, but we can watch it when it makes it on to Disney+"

That would be perfectly fine and in fact that’s where I plan to watch it.

But we’re talking about people who are deciding whether or not to go to the theater to see it.

Of course, if the parent is lying about why they won’t take the kids to the theater to see the movie, that’s their choice. It’s not one I would recommend for numerous reasons.