Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

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Dranth

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I would agree. Again, I had no idea this upcoming Hunger Games movie even existed, until @BuddyThomas kept bringing it up in this thread as an example of how popular Rachel Zegler is with audiences who will allegedly flock to the theaters to also see her in Snow White next March.
I think he was more referring to the popularity of Hunger Games bringing people in where they would then get a chance to see her vs. people going because she was in it but I could be wrong about his intent.
 

TP2000

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I think he was more referring to the popularity of Hunger Games bringing people in where they would then get a chance to see her vs. people going because she was in it but I could be wrong about his intent.

Oh, that makes sense. Either way, it does not look like this next Hunger Games movie will be Rachel Zegler's first blockbuster.

Maybe Snow White will do that for her career? Although... 🤔
 

erasure fan1

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I'm skeptical the Zegler Effect is a thing, much less a thing that is a net positive for the box office.
Personally I don't think she's known well enough for her to effect anything just because it's her. What she says can hurt a film because it will get repeated. But will anyone say forget hunger games because Zegler is in it? I'm going to say no. Now if Hunger games is a disappointment, and snow white also underperforms? Then the narrative of the actress who everything she's in fails, could become a problem for her career.
 

Disney Irish

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Interesting. So what's your take on why box office projections and advance ticket sales are so low for this next Hunger Games installment starring Rachel Zegler?



I would agree. Again, I had no idea this upcoming Hunger Games movie even existed, until @BuddyThomas kept bringing it up in this thread as an example of how popular Rachel Zegler is with audiences who will allegedly flock to the theaters to also see her in Snow White next March.

I'm skeptical the Zegler Effect is a thing, much less a thing that is a net positive for the box office.
My take is that number of books sold does not equate to the same number of tickets sold for a movie based on said book.

As for the "why" advance tickets are so low, many factors including the streaming effect and high ticket prices. As has been discussed many times in the other threads, we are in a new era of content distribution. More folks are willing to wait to see a movie then they are to venture out and buy tickets. There will always be outliers that buck the trend, but the trend is clear year-over-year ticket sales are down and have been for years even before the pandemic.

The Box Office is no longer the sole determining factor on whether a movie is successful or not, as has been discussed many times in the various threads here.
 

Tha Realest

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Oh, that makes sense. Either way, it does not look like this next Hunger Games movie will be Rachel Zegler's first blockbuster.

Maybe Snow White will do that for her career? Although... 🤔
The four previous films earned a combined $3 billion. A box office success should be a layup no matter who’s starring!

Surely any moderately known and likable lead actor in this new film should guarantee a certain level of success?
 

Chi84

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The four previous films earned a combined $3 billion. A box office success should be a layup no matter who’s starring!

Surely any moderately known and likable lead actor in this new film should guarantee a certain level of success?
If the film isn’t successful, it’s because of the actor not being likable enough to guarantee it? What is your problem with this particular actor?
 

erasure fan1

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The four previous films earned a combined $3 billion. A box office success should be a layup no matter who’s starring!
True, but the trajectory was going the wrong way. The last film, while not a failure by any means, was the lowest of the series. It made a profit for sure but it was considered a disappointment. Now that doesn't mean the new film will be a failure but it does give me some reservations on it being a guaranteed hit.
 

Tha Realest

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If the film isn’t successful, it’s because of the actor not being likable enough to guarantee it? What is your problem with this particular actor?
That’s how Hollywood has always worked. A film’s performance is often seen, in part, as a referendum on the drawing power of its stars.

In this instance we have a successful and proven IP, from a popular book series. It has a built in audience already.
 

LittleBuford

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About Snow White?
Fox News is reporting on the following feature in The Wrap:

“It’s an honor to be recognized in a way that both celebrates our heritage and lifts up the contributions we all make to this industry, where it can be particularly hard for us to be seen and heard in a meaningful way,” actress Rachel Zegler told TheWrap. Zegler herself has made remarkable accomplishments in the industry in a short time. She burst onto the scene in the 2021 film remake of “West Side Story.” Making her film debut playing a character once inhabited by Natalie Wood is no small feat, but Zegler did it with grace and warmth. “I still don’t think I’m quite ready for the life I already have, despite being extremely grateful for it and for every opportunity it has brought me,” she said. That life is now seeing her take on the role of Lucy Baird Gray in the latest “Hunger Games” film, and playing the first Disney princess: Snow White. The latter role has drawn its fair share of controversy, in a similar way to Halle Bailey’s casting in “The Little Mermaid.” But to see a new generation of young girls see a Latina actress in the role will be revolutionary. “To young Latino performers coming up in the industry, I would tell them to know their worth, and to make sure they’re loud about having seats at the tables they deserve to be at,” said Zegler. “I have learned the hard way that we have to be fearless and loud in order to be heard, and to prepare for the backlash that occasionally comes with that outspokenness.”

 

BuddyThomas

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Fox News is reporting (in its own characteristic way) on the following feature in The Wrap:

“It’s an honor to be recognized in a way that both celebrates our heritage and lifts up the contributions we all make to this industry, where it can be particularly hard for us to be seen and heard in a meaningful way,” actress Rachel Zegler told TheWrap. Zegler herself has made remarkable accomplishments in the industry in a short time. She burst onto the scene in the 2021 film remake of “West Side Story.” Making her film debut playing a character once inhabited by Natalie Wood is no small feat, but Zegler did it with grace and warmth. “I still don’t think I’m quite ready for the life I already have, despite being extremely grateful for it and for every opportunity it has brought me,” she said. That life is now seeing her take on the role of Lucy Baird Gray in the latest “Hunger Games” film, and playing the first Disney princess: Snow White. The latter role has drawn its fair share of controversy, in a similar way to Halle Bailey’s casting in “The Little Mermaid.” But to see a new generation of young girls see a Latina actress in the role will be revolutionary. “To young Latino performers coming up in the industry, I would tell them to know their worth, and to make sure they’re loud about having seats at the tables they deserve to be at,” said Zegler. “I have learned the hard way that we have to be fearless and loud in order to be heard, and to prepare for the backlash that occasionally comes with that outspokenness.”

Doesn’t sound like she said anything wrong.
 

Chi84

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Fox News is reporting on the following feature in The Wrap:

“It’s an honor to be recognized in a way that both celebrates our heritage and lifts up the contributions we all make to this industry, where it can be particularly hard for us to be seen and heard in a meaningful way,” actress Rachel Zegler told TheWrap. Zegler herself has made remarkable accomplishments in the industry in a short time. She burst onto the scene in the 2021 film remake of “West Side Story.” Making her film debut playing a character once inhabited by Natalie Wood is no small feat, but Zegler did it with grace and warmth. “I still don’t think I’m quite ready for the life I already have, despite being extremely grateful for it and for every opportunity it has brought me,” she said. That life is now seeing her take on the role of Lucy Baird Gray in the latest “Hunger Games” film, and playing the first Disney princess: Snow White. The latter role has drawn its fair share of controversy, in a similar way to Halle Bailey’s casting in “The Little Mermaid.” But to see a new generation of young girls see a Latina actress in the role will be revolutionary. “To young Latino performers coming up in the industry, I would tell them to know their worth, and to make sure they’re loud about having seats at the tables they deserve to be at,” said Zegler. “I have learned the hard way that we have to be fearless and loud in order to be heard, and to prepare for the backlash that occasionally comes with that outspokenness.”

Okay but what is she “doubling down” on?
 

LittleBuford

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Okay but what is she “doubling down” on?
Here's the headline and a few quotes from the Fox News article. They help explain why, to some people, she is doubling down:

‘Snow White’ reboot star who slammed 1937 original remarks on ‘backlash’ she has gotten for being 'outspoken'​


Not apologizing for courting any controversy, Zegler’s statement indicated that she believes the pushback and criticism she has received are what comes with her being "fearless and loud" to earn her place in Hollywood.

A rep for Zegler told Fox News Digital that the actress statement represented "her thoughts on the industry in general," adding that "Snow White was not mentioned in her quotes."
 

Chi84

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I don't quite understand the fuss either, but at this point, I'm not at all surprised by it.
So she said nothing at all about Snow White. I suspect the issue is that she said some things about being loud and fearless and demanding a place at the table.

That’s the kind of threatening non-princess like talk that’s likely to tick off a bunch of old guys who had no intention of seeing the movie in the first place.
 
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