Line Jumpers/Cutters

[Thepuma]

What I REALLY hate is at rope drop..you queue up and wait.....and then 20 minutes later a family push through the whole line of the queue to the front where their friend is standing!!

 

[LeighM]

You did the right thing and it wasn't done with a "Karen attitude." Too many people today think there shouldn't be consequences for bad behavior and feel entitled to behave anyway they feel like with no respect or courtesy for others. People have stopped holding themselves and others to a higher standard. I sound ancient but I'm barely in my 40s LOL. I understand the fear of confrontation because I'm in the middle of a bad dispute with new neighbors that come from a very gun happy and fist throwing circle. It's a concern and we're going to be moving eventually because of it - but mainly because my other neighbors are too scared to get involved and help and I can't do it all on my own....

 

[Grace1626]

I was at EPCOT yesterday and went to ride Test Track. I have a DAS so we were going through the lightning lane. A man and his daughter entered the single rider line and after entering the building, opened the chain rope and entered the lightning lane in front of us. He then got on his phone and bragged to whomever that he was skipping the line and didn't have to pay telling them to do the same. I smirked to myself as I knew that there was another scan checkpoint before entering the car design area. We got to that point and the cast member was looking the other way, so he and his daughter just walked in and acted like they scanned and received a number.

Here is what happened next, which my husband said that I exhibited Karen-like behavior: I reported them to the cast member and told her that they did not scan and cut in line in front of us from the single rider line. The man tried to claim he did not understand English, but I told the CM he was speaking English in the line. They ended up removing them from the line and escorted them out of the building. The CM thanked me.

Would you have done the same or just let it be?

Some years ago our family was in line at SM, and a group of pushy teens shoved their way to the front of the line. The CM told them they had to go back, and they verbally attacked him (using lots of hard K words) and getting in his face. Amazingly, several LARGE men in black (wearing sunglasses and earphones) appeared and removed the entire group. It was impressive. They all disappeared through a door. The whole queue cheered!

Later DH saw one of those big men at our hotel, and mentioned the incident. At first the man denied the whole thing, but DH is very good at facial recognition and just wanted to thank the guy. Ultimately he admitted they removed the troublemakers from Disney property. DH asked how they were so quick, and he said this group had been a problem since they entered, and their behavior was noted. They were watched. It really made a huge impression on us, made us feel safer, and also reinforced the fact that there are cameras everywhere at WDW.

We have not seen or heard of anything like this since, though this was an extreme case.

 

[JIMINYCR]

You did the right thing and it wasn't done with a "Karen attitude." Too many people today think there shouldn't be consequences for bad behavior and feel entitled to behave anyway they feel like with no respect or courtesy for others. People have stopped holding themselves and others to a higher standard. I sound ancient but I'm barely in my 40s LOL. I understand the fear of confrontation because I'm in the middle of a bad dispute with new neighbors that come from a very gun happy and fist throwing circle. It's a concern and we're going to be moving eventually because of it - but mainly because my other neighbors are too scared to get involved and help and I can't do it all on my own....

Bad neighbors are difficult to deal with and you are limited in what you can do. We have a business so moving out isnt an option for us. For many years we had neighbors who were fantastic. Our relationship with them was like family. Both spouses aged, ended up sick and in facilities. When they both passed away their son was willed the house. He wanted to get quick cash so he sold it at a low cost to the first buyer who looked at it. Well that new owner was a woman who is known as a trouble maker. Ive had to call the cops on her multiple times. The officers tell me she is very well known to the department. Unfortunately she never crosses the line enough to be taken away. Trying to reason or talk to her is useless, so Ive given up.
Every morning I look at the property hoping that one day there will be a realtors for sale sign posted at her yard. Sigh....

 

[Dayma]

I am not sure I would have said anything. I guess if I knew it would not cause conflict with me and that line cutter , I might...

 

[Tony the Tigger]

Would you have done the same or just let it be?

With guys, it usually depends on who is bigger.

 

[King Panda 77]

With guys, it usually depends on who is bigger.

 

[LeighM]

Bad neighbors are difficult to deal with and you are limited in what you can do. We have a business so moving out isnt an option for us. For many years we had neighbors who were fantastic. Our relationship with them was like family. Both spouses aged, ended up sick and in facilities. When they both passed away their son was willed the house. He wanted to get quick cash so he sold it at a low cost to the first buyer who looked at it. Well that new owner was a woman who is known as a trouble maker. Ive had to call the cops on her multiple times. The officers tell me she is very well known to the department. Unfortunately she never crosses the line enough to be taken away. Trying to reason or talk to her is useless, so Ive given up.
Every morning I look at the property hoping that one day there will be a realtors for sale sign posted at her yard. Sigh....

Bad neighbors can make life miserable. The house we lived in before this one, wasn't in an HOA, and bad tenants moved in after the great owners decided to move. I still suspect she was involved with drugs or something because things never made sense. And the County often mistakenly turned off our water instead of hers because of the location. So we moved to a different town and an HOA trying to avoid that problem. And it ended up happening again These tenants are getting tired of the cops being called on them so are accusing me of threatening them and the HOA (who came up with this rely on the police plan) is pretty much throwing me under the bus. And I'm done with it. So now we have to move.....again. Maybe the 3rd house is the charm? LOL. I hope your situation improves sooner than later.

 

[Phonedave]

What I REALLY hate is at rope drop..you queue up and wait.....and then 20 minutes later a family push through the whole line of the queue to the front where their friend is standing!!

Years ago there we had staked out a spot to watch the fireworks from the Tomorrowland Terrace. Over the course of waiting about 5 or 6 other families also had the same idea. It sort of grew into a large group gathering. All of the kids were playing around near the railing and all of the adults had migrated to the back and we were all talking to each other. People were sharing snacks, it was one of those natural things that sometimes happen when people get together. It was really nice.

Then, about 30 seconds before the fireworks started, this family of about 8 comes by, steps in front of everybody, and stands right at the railing. The 12-15 other adults that were there tried to explain to them what we were all doing, and their kids were welcome to join the others, and could the adults please come stand with the rest of us. They basically said something like "tough, if you want these spots you should have stood in them". A lot of back and forth and name calling ensued. I don't think anybody enjoyed the fireworks that night.

 

[Monkee Girl]

I line cutted once. I was coming from Adventureland into Fantasy land and heard someone call my name. It was my cousin and her daughter over on Peter Pan. They waved and I walked over. They were standing next to a cast member and we were quickly catching up while they were standing around. My cousin actually told me to come under the rope and join them and I was all 'hell no!' I know the rules, lol. The cast member was very nice and was like 'you can if you want' but I was so damn nervous to do it so I said 'no' again. The line was getting ready to move off and the cast member kinda went 'last chance'...so I looked at the people behind my cousin and asked them if they would be ok with me joining them. they had scene the whole interaction so were fine with it and I ended up joining them. That was the one and only time I ever line cut and I got permission and had anxiety over it, lol

 

[Grimley1968]

I'm in the "you did the right thing" column as well. IMO, even if one doesn't speak English, the concept of queuing in a line, even a bifurcated one, is a basic concept, and in no way is limited to English speaking countries.

Anyway, isn't there a hairstyle requirement to be a "Karen"? (no offense to all those women named Karen who are nice people)

 

[Fox&Hound]

Good for you! More people need to stand up for what is right! I applaud you.

 

[LeighM]

Years ago there we had staked out a spot to watch the fireworks from the Tomorrowland Terrace. Over the course of waiting about 5 or 6 other families also had the same idea. It sort of grew into a large group gathering. All of the kids were playing around near the railing and all of the adults had migrated to the back and we were all talking to each other. People were sharing snacks, it was one of those natural things that sometimes happen when people get together. It was really nice.

Then, about 30 seconds before the fireworks started, this family of about 8 comes by, steps in front of everybody, and stands right at the railing. The 12-15 other adults that were there tried to explain to them what we were all doing, and their kids were welcome to join the others, and could the adults please come stand with the rest of us. They basically said something like "tough, if you want these spots you should have stood in them". A lot of back and forth and name calling ensued. I don't think anybody enjoyed the fireworks that night.

A few years ago, my husband and I picked out great spots early for one of the last showings of the electrical parade. I told the family behind us that when the show started, their kids were welcome to sit in front of us so that they could clearly see it and they were appreciative. About 10 minutes before it started, a mom with a stroller and young kids tried to get in front of us. I refused to budge and I told her that the kids behind us were going to sit there. She tried to move me with the stroller and I still wouldn't move. Then the family behind us saw what was happening and got involved to tell her to move somewhere else. A CM saw it and made the woman move along to another spot. The mom behind us told her kids to go ahead and sit there early in case anyone else had the same idea. Once the parade started it was perfect, the kids had a clear view, my husband and I who are shorter could see everything without being blocked, and the parents behind us, who were taller, also had a good view. We all won except for the woman who thought she could bully her way to a spot last minute.

 

[WishIWasRetired]

I line cutted once. I was coming from Adventureland into Fantasy land and heard someone call my name. It was my cousin and her daughter over on Peter Pan. They waved and I walked over. They were standing next to a cast member and we were quickly catching up while they were standing around. My cousin actually told me to come under the rope and join them and I was all 'hell no!' I know the rules, lol. The cast member was very nice and was like 'you can if you want' but I was so damn nervous to do it so I said 'no' again. The line was getting ready to move off and the cast member kinda went 'last chance'...so I looked at the people behind my cousin and asked them if they would be ok with me joining them. they had scene the whole interaction so were fine with it and I ended up joining them. That was the one and only time I ever line cut and I got permission and had anxiety over it, lol

I don't think many people would consider this line cutting. I don't think i would ever be upset if it's one person jumping in line with their friends or family.

 

[WishIWasRetired]

Years ago there we had staked out a spot to watch the fireworks from the Tomorrowland Terrace. Over the course of waiting about 5 or 6 other families also had the same idea. It sort of grew into a large group gathering. All of the kids were playing around near the railing and all of the adults had migrated to the back and we were all talking to each other. People were sharing snacks, it was one of those natural things that sometimes happen when people get together. It was really nice.

Then, about 30 seconds before the fireworks started, this family of about 8 comes by, steps in front of everybody, and stands right at the railing. The 12-15 other adults that were there tried to explain to them what we were all doing, and their kids were welcome to join the others, and could the adults please come stand with the rest of us. They basically said something like "tough, if you want these spots you should have stood in them". A lot of back and forth and name calling ensued. I don't think anybody enjoyed the fireworks that night.

I honestly don't understand the thinking of some people, do they really think that everyone has been standing there for the last 45 minutes for the fun of it. Unfortunately, if you leave any breathing room between you and the rope/railing in front of you I can guarantee that someone will try to get in front of you.

 

[DisneyFanatic12]

I honestly don't understand the thinking of some people, do they really think that everyone has been standing there for the last 45 minutes for the fun of it. Unfortunately, if you leave any breathing room between you and the rope/railing in front of you I can guarantee that someone will try to get in front of you.

I’m almost 7 foot tall, so whenever someone barges in, I let anyone (reasonably) that was there for a while to stand infront of me. And then whoever barged into the breathing room at the last second has to leave because they can’t see a thing…

 

[Goofyernmost]

Back in the day it happened but wasn't constant. I was there to have a good time and a person(s) cutting were not going to make a massive dent in my time. So it never bothered me enough to make a big thing about it. I've been know to bend a few rules in my time but never line cutting. When Fastpass was introduced the factor or legal line cutting, that bothered me, not just because someone was cutting but that groups of people were legally cutting. It caused those of us that either couldn't get a FP or wouldn't do something like that to get angry. You can't standby in the heat of Florida at a stand still while others sailed on by. I was forced to get FP because if I didn't I wouldn't have been able to see as much as I once was able to see when there was only one line, first come, first served. The way it should be.

Once at The Lion King show we were waiting in a very small group for the first show of the day. A number of us were amused when a young girl, I'd say about 12 years old started to casually work her way to the front of the group. It took a lot of looking around to see when the best time would be to move up a couple of feet. When she got to the front she waited there for a few minutes like she was looking for someone and then yelled out "Mom, I'm up here and was waving her hand. They started out behind us all so making like her mother was just catching up, was wasted. We all knew it was happening and no one said a word because we all knew it was a theater and there were only about 30 of us waiting. We were getting a good laugh watching it. I often wonder if they were deflated when the doors opened up and it was a big theater with hundreds of good seats and all those theatrics were completely unnecessary. I hope they were less obvious at an actual ride attraction. Good parenting exhibited.

 

[rshell68]

I gave them a very pointed glare.

I bet it was a scary teacher glare too LOL

 

[ajrwdwgirl]

I bet it was a scary teacher glare too LOL

I tried my best!

 

[Hockey89]

I was at EPCOT yesterday and went to ride Test Track. I have a DAS so we were going through the lightning lane. A man and his daughter entered the single rider line and after entering the building, opened the chain rope and entered the lightning lane in front of us. He then got on his phone and bragged to whomever that he was skipping the line and didn't have to pay telling them to do the same. I smirked to myself as I knew that there was another scan checkpoint before entering the car design area. We got to that point and the cast member was looking the other way, so he and his daughter just walked in and acted like they scanned and received a number.

Here is what happened next, which my husband said that I exhibited Karen-like behavior: I reported them to the cast member and told her that they did not scan and cut in line in front of us from the single rider line. The man tried to claim he did not understand English, but I told the CM he was speaking English in the line. They ended up removing them from the line and escorted them out of the building. The CM thanked me.

Would you have done the same or just let it be?

Dead same.... This is why we can't have nice things....