Line Jumpers/Cutters

[MickeyLuv'r]

My only issue is that you don’t seem to realize that WDW rules expressly prohibit part of your party getting in line and then saving a place for you while you finish eating, go to the bathroom or whatever.

Disney might have rules on paper, but by and large they do not enforce them, in my experience. I've been to WDW enough times to have seen plenty of line cutters. IME, they mostly ignore it.

 

[Chi84]

Disney might have rules on paper, but by and large they do not enforce them, in my experience. I've been to WDW enough times to have seen plenty of line cutters. IME, they mostly ignore it.

They do. No question. That’s how Disney handles just about everything unless it becomes a problem for them instead of just the guests.

But if it’s true that line cutting is increasing enough for guests to start complaining about it, it will eventually get on their radar. Right now I think most people are doing what they’re supposed to do.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

Just to jump on this really quickly. This is also a sensitive topic for me with my experiences with some family members and a good friend of mine who has a special needs child. Some people can't comprehend that not all handicaps are visible. But what makes me even angrier is that many people believe that because they've either seen, or have known, people who abuse the system. For example. My Mom had a handicapped placard and I would never use it when using her vehicle unless she was with me and we would use it in our car if she was riding with us. Because, obviously, that's what it's for. However. And this is a HUGE however. When I went on an out of town trip with my husband's family, his extremely able bodied brother used his grandmother's handicap parking placard to park closer to the hotel, etc. Was his grandmother with him? NO!!! She loaned it to him to make his life easier. I said something because that's taking spots away from people who legit have a need for it - like my mom, grandfather, and my friend for her son. Yet his family had an issue with me calling him out on his BS and thought I was being judgmental lol. It's people like my BIL that probably make people like this poster think that anyone who appears "normal" and is using a wheelchair is trying to game the system or something.

This is pretty normal for people with food allergies. Many folks have a hostile reaction to food allergies. They take it upon themselves to 'test' the food allergy is 'real.'

I am inclined to think it is because food allergies scare people. It is scary to think a food you enjoy could possibly be deadly.

I also saw this once at WDW. A family member broke her hip horseback riding. She looked athletic and fairly young. Some CM's themselves were pretty nasty to her. It was eye-opening. Even though another, older member of my extended family also used a scooter that trip.

So I think many people are also afraid of physical disabilities. blame sometimes = fear.

 

[Goofyernmost]

So, let me ask everyone this. When we were in HS last year, our group of 4 had been in the standby line for Millennium Falcon for 25 minutes. It was a rather hot day and I offered to go get a few glasses of that funky blue or green milk at the nearby milk stand. When I returned, I rejoined my family in line where I'd been just a few minutes earlier. I didn't have to push past anyone to get there but there were lots of people behind us.

Was that considered line jumping? No one behind us grumbled because I'm sure they saw me step out of the line earlier.

I'm still undecided on whether I like the blue or green milk better.

Every situation is different and should be analyzed on its own merits. On a hot day in a long line I would not call that cutting. In that case all you needed to do is inform the people in front of you and in back of you where you were going and that should be OK, but that is not what the OP is talking about.

 

[NelleBelle]

Every situation is different and should be analyzed on its own merits. On a hot day in a long line I would not , call that cutting. In that case all you needed to do is inform the people in front of you and in back of you where you were going and that should be OK, but that is not what the OP is talking about.

Tend to agree with this. Both my mom and I are T1 diabetics and use insulin pumps. There have been times when we both have had blood sugars that have bottomed out and needed someone to go grab something to raise it up (we do both carry "emergency" supplies but have also run out of the supplies. I also carry a rescue drug administered through the nose if I become unconscious). But in the case of the post you quoted, I wish Disney would sell some things in queues. When DH and I first went to Galaxy's Edge at DLR, while waiting in line for MF:SR, part of the queue was outside. Disney was selling those weird-shaped Coke bottles in the queue. Need more of this!

 

[Club Cooloholic]

Every situation is different and should be analyzed on its own merits. On a hot day in a long line I would not call that cutting. In that case all you needed to do is inform the people in front of you and in back of you where you were going and that should be OK, but that is not what the OP is talking about.

Eh. Again if everyone sends a food runner it would be chaotic. If the stand is just over a railing. Sure. I think a good rule of thumb is, if you were in the line alone, could you ask the people right behind you, if it's ok to go run and do what you need to do. I would wager the vast majority would be totally cool with you leaving to use a bathroom. But drinks, grabbing a pic with a storm trooper walking by...etc results WILL vary.

 

[mergatroid]

Tend to agree with this. Both my mom and I are T1 diabetics and use insulin pumps. There have been times when we both have had blood sugars that have bottomed out and needed someone to go grab something to raise it up (we do both carry "emergency" supplies but have also run out of the supplies. I also carry a rescue drug administered through the nose if I become unconscious). But in the case of the post you quoted, I wish Disney would sell some things in queues. When DH and I first went to Galaxy's Edge at DLR, while waiting in line for MF:SR, part of the queue was outside. Disney was selling those weird-shaped Coke bottles in the queue. Need more of this!

We do Halloween Horror Nights each year at Universal and in quite a few of the lines for the houses they have drink carts set up at certain points (I especially liked the costume worn one year by a cast member of a naughty nurse wearing fishnet stockings, but that's a different story). I realise that at HHN there's a lot of people drinking (similar to F & W at Epcot) but it's always amazed me that Disney don't have this in their long queues. Seems a good money maker but I suppose it could create litter issues or people still drinking when they're ready to board the ride vehicle etc?

 

[Goofyernmost]

Eh. Again if everyone sends a food runner it would be chaotic. If the stand is just over a railing. Sure. I think a good rule of thumb is, if you were in the line alone, could you ask the people right behind you, if it's ok to go run and do what you need to do. I would wager the vast majority would be totally cool with you leaving to use a bathroom. But drinks, grabbing a pic wiyh a storm trooper walking by...etc results WILL vary.

I agree with most of it, but liquids in a tropical environment is not an unnecessary item nor anything even closely related to "grabbing a pic with a storm trooper". Again, food is not going to be something that is easily gotten other than maybe a Mickey Bar. Going for a tray of nacho's is. Most would not do that and would more likely be someone that was never in the line to begin with and that would be cutting. That is why you talk to those in front and behind you letting them know what is happening. This world and country would be so much better off if all of a sudden there was a mass common sense button switched on for all humans.

 

[Jrb1979]

I think Disney's missing an opportunity to sell blue and green milk to people standing in line lol.

Honestly, my interpretation of their policy is that Disney doesn't want people leaving and rejoining the line (emergencies excepted) because it can cause problems with others in the line, even though it didn't in your case. You kind of take your chances these days. That said, until Disney believes it's in its own interest to do something about it, people are going to do whatever they like.

Other theme parks have signs posted saying that anyone who leaves a line for any reason must rejoin it at the end. In that case, it's pretty clear. Disney doesn't want to do that because it destroys the magic of standing in the hot sun for 2 hours to get on a ride.

The green milk is much better.

To add other parks have numbers you can text for line jumpers. I have used it. Security comes and takes out of the line and sometimes out of the park.

 

[Club Cooloholic]

The fireworks going off right above our heads was unforeseen. Having some kids take a peek at them is really not a big deal. No one got hurt, and no one even cared. We were in 20 lineups all day and you act as if this is just a routine thing that I do in every line up. It was kids seeing a glimpse of some fireworks, relax man.

One last bit on this..."no one even cared"...except you complained one woman was so mad at you, she tried to run you over with he partners wheelchair.

 

[mergatroid]

One last bit on this..."no one even cared"...except you complained one woman was so mad at you, she tried to run you over with he partners wheelchair.

So we have the person in the wheelchair (who obviously was faking their disability) upset, along with their partner. We have countless other people on this thread saying it's wrong, Disney's own rules on line etiquette saying it's wrong, other parks having signs up asking people to report this behaviour so security can intervene because it's wrong and yet "Nobody in the line cared".

Wow, I wonder what the odds are that when this poster does these things that there's literally nobody in the line who cares and yet the above factors all show a different representation?

I'll stop posting on this anymore now. Hopefully the person will think about this and perhaps change their ways. We can't change the past but we can change the future with our actions. I think that's all anyone is asking and to perhaps remember that there's people on here who may feel offended by the insinuation that people who appear to walk a few steps are somehow abusing using a wheelchair. I'm sure the poster is not a horrible person or anything and we'd probably agree with them far more than not on many subjects. Just some food for thought on this topic and I'll end my contributions on it now with no hard feelings.