Lilo and Stitch live-action remake

Disney Irish

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Hence why I simply suggested it, I’m not forcing anyone. Of course you can’t force someone what to and what not to spend their money on. Ultimately value is in the eyes of the beholder. Of course
The point being however is that your suggestion is not new, its already been said and repeated about hundred times on this site with regards to the remakes. So again you're preaching to the choir here.
 

Disney Irish

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I feel like I'm crazy, because everything I've seen about this movie's contents- the script, the changes, the handling of the characters and themes/messages from the original- have been bad if not outright abhorrent, and yet... people seem to think this is one of the best remakes, if not the best? Maybe I'm missing something, because watching/reading reviews it seems like the movie doesn't really understand the original and changes it for the worse, but here we are with so many people (not just here, but EVERYWHERE) praising it. I knew it was gonna be a success regardless of quality, and now we're stuck with more live action remakes and sequels/spinoffs to the remakes for another decade or two, but I didn't think there would be such a disconnect between what the film is and how people are responding to it.

I'll save my personal thoughts on what I've seen (I haven't seen this in a theater, just going off of reviews- I personally vote with my wallet and haven't seen a live action remake since Beauty and the Beast, which is what made me realize what these films actually were) for the spoiler thread if I feel like it, but it sounds like I'm the only one here who thinks the changes they made are just awful and shallow.
I think what you're missing is the actual experience of the movie itself, as that goes along way into how one views it. Now you may feel the same after seeing it or you may feel different. But right now you're basing your opinion on someone else's review of it, not your own experience. So that is the difference and the disconnect that is happening with those that have seen it vs those that haven't.
 

LittleBuford

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I feel like I'm crazy, because everything I've seen about this movie's contents- the script, the changes, the handling of the characters and themes/messages from the original- have been bad if not outright abhorrent, and yet... people seem to think this is one of the best remakes, if not the best? Maybe I'm missing something, because watching/reading reviews it seems like the movie doesn't really understand the original and changes it for the worse, but here we are with so many people (not just here, but EVERYWHERE) praising it. I knew it was gonna be a success regardless of quality, and now we're stuck with more live action remakes and sequels/spinoffs to the remakes for another decade or two, but I didn't think there would be such a disconnect between what the film is and how people are responding to it.

I'll save my personal thoughts on what I've seen (I haven't seen this in a theater, just going off of reviews- I personally vote with my wallet and haven't seen a live action remake since Beauty and the Beast, which is what made me realize what these films actually were) for the spoiler thread if I feel like it, but it sounds like I'm the only one here who thinks the changes they made are just awful and shallow.
“Abhorrent” is a very strong word for something you haven’t seen. I’m not saying you should watch it—I respect your choice not to—but you would probably be much less puzzled if you did.
 

Tony the Tigger

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I feel like I'm crazy, because everything I've seen about this movie's contents- the script, the changes, the handling of the characters and themes/messages from the original- have been bad if not outright abhorrent, and yet... people seem to think this is one of the best remakes, if not the best? Maybe I'm missing something, because watching/reading reviews it seems like the movie doesn't really understand the original and changes it for the worse, but here we are with so many people (not just here, but EVERYWHERE) praising it. I knew it was gonna be a success regardless of quality, and now we're stuck with more live action remakes and sequels/spinoffs to the remakes for another decade or two, but I didn't think there would be such a disconnect between what the film is and how people are responding to it.

I'll save my personal thoughts on what I've seen (I haven't seen this in a theater, just going off of reviews- I personally vote with my wallet and haven't seen a live action remake since Beauty and the Beast, which is what made me realize what these films actually were) for the spoiler thread if I feel like it, but it sounds like I'm the only one here who thinks the changes they made are just awful and shallow.
IMO you are way overthinking it.

It’s a movie. Go see it and enjoy. You’re not a movie critic. No need to hyper-critique. No reason to care if it’s live action. There is no “gotcha.” The worst that can happen is you don’t care for it.
 

Nevermore525

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Also Disney has already apparently put a pause on the live action remakes anyways after the results of Snow White, so voices were already heard. So outside of the live action Moana which was already in production, I don't think many will be greenlit for awhile anyways.
Did Disney put an official pause on the Hercules one that Guy Ritchie and the Russo Brothers were attached to?

I know Tangled got put on the shelf for now.
 

DisneyHead123

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I mentioned the live action Moana still being in the works already. But I haven't seen reports of them moving forward with any others like the live action Tangled which was paused. So I think they may wait until after Moana to see if the market is still there or not.

My guess would be a refocus with live action movies. Relatively more recent movies. Strong fan bases. Less princess focused (maybe with the exception of Princess And The Frog, because she has such a strong parks presence so I can see Disney wanting to renew interest in Tiana with this next generation.) Heartwarming and uncontroversial, animal characters a plus. My bet would be:

- Up as an absolute top contender. (The internet apparently agrees so much that it’s very hard to tell if this is already in production or not. Google AI says it is, I think based on the number of fan AI trailers. I’m pretty sure it’s not though.)

- The Nightmare Before Christmas, unless the CGI looks to be prohibitively expensive.

- Ratatouille

- Frozen (Ok, a princess movie, but this is Frozen we’re talking about)

- The Aristocats, even though it’s older. Cat factor and cruise line tie-in. Supposedly already in development, maybe?

- The Incredibles, maybe with more focus on the kids a la Spy Kids

- Hercules, as I hear this has a big fan base although I don’t think it did well in theaters. It would be a visually cool movie too. Also supposedly already in development, maybe?

- Coco
 

Disney Irish

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Did Disney put an official pause on the Hercules one that Guy Ritchie and the Russo Brothers were attached to?

I know Tangled got put on the shelf for now.
There hasn't been an update on that since 2023 prior to the Hollywood strikes. If it hasn't been mentioned recently I doubt its still under development at this point.
 

Disney Irish

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My guess would be a refocus with live action movies. Relatively more recent movies. Strong fan bases. Less princess focused (maybe with the exception of Princess And The Frog, because she has such a strong parks presence so I can see Disney wanting to renew interest in Tiana with this next generation.) Heartwarming and uncontroversial, animal characters a plus. My bet would be:

- Up as an absolute top contender. (The internet apparently agrees so much that it’s very hard to tell if this is already in production or not. Google AI says it is, I think based on the number of fan AI trailers. I’m pretty sure it’s not though.)

- The Nightmare Before Christmas, unless the CGI looks to be prohibitively expensive.

- Ratatouille

- Frozen (Ok, a princess movie, but this is Frozen we’re talking about)

- The Aristocats, even though it’s older. Cat factor and cruise line tie-in. Supposedly already in development, maybe?

- The Incredibles, maybe with more focus on the kids a la Spy Kids

- Hercules, as I hear this has a big fan base although I don’t think it did well in theaters. It would be a visually cool movie too. Also supposedly already in development, maybe?

- Coco
Prior to this year I would have said most of those would probably be good bets, but after Snow White I don't see much movement on most of those at this point, maybe in a couple years.

Bottom line I think after Moana releases next year they take a pause and revisit the live action remakes later down the line. Plus depending on who replaced Iger after December next year they may not want more remakes and instead focus the Studios on other projects.
 

DKampy

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Hey, so.. I’m genuinely shocked by your decision and take here, knowing you and how we both are passionate about Disney getting back to the values & creative talent we knew them for. You say you disagreed with some of the core creative choices made (rightfully so, I might add).. so then why would you decide to see this, not once, but twice? No offense but that doesn’t make much sense to me. As a fellow fan of traditional animation and enjoyer of the original Lilo & Stitch.. sure, you could argue there’s a bit of talent showcased here in the quality of the CG animation and maybe the actors themselves, but it begs the question of “ is this really showcasing these folks’ best talent”? I’d honestly argue otherwise, I think it’s completely wasted here, especially after seeing the director’s original works (Marcel the Shell with Shoes On.. which is the type of project Dean Camp should be making for Disney), why basically support Disney’s efforts in making lesser copycat versions of already great films, rather than re-releasing the originals in high definition with a great merchandising & marketing campaign behind them.. I’m just saying. I don’t think this is doing anything good for the talent & hard work that went into crafting the original let alone further original (or stories not yet adapted to) film that’d support the continuation of said legacy. It’s instead telling Disney, “releasing a lesser copycat version of a classic film that at the same time misses much of its core heart & identity, without the same artistry, heart, or creativity put into it, is perfectly fine & what we wanna see more of. The originals have no other value other than being a base for remakes of them w less creative vision & integrity”. It’s the antithesis of the message that Dreamfinder & Figment and the original Journey Into Imagination stood for. Like, it’s fine if you enjoyed it (it’s just a film at the end of the day.) But I’m just personally very surprised by your take, knowing you, and am just curious as to why exactly you’re so supportive of this, knowing what it is & the critiques you mentioned about changes to the characters & story. Judging by what I know about you and what you stand for, I’m just surprised that was your response.
Good luck with That…. How much has Marcel the Shell with shoes on grossing these days compared to even your lesser live action remakes…. I see great original movies from every studio(not just Disney) that end up flopping all the time… it seems to be all about Nostalgia and familiarity among the gen pop(not just the hardcore Disney fans)….which is who needs the convincing
 

Figments Friend

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Hey, so.. I’m genuinely shocked by your decision and take here, knowing you and how we both are passionate about Disney getting back to the values & creative talent we knew them for. You say you disagreed with some of the core creative choices made (rightfully so, I might add).. so then why would you decide to see this, not once, but twice? No offense but that doesn’t make much sense to me. As a fellow fan of traditional animation and enjoyer of the original Lilo & Stitch.. sure, you could argue there’s a bit of talent showcased here in the quality of the CG animation and maybe the actors themselves, but it begs the question of “ is this really showcasing these folks’ best talent”? I’d honestly argue otherwise, I think it’s completely wasted here, especially after seeing the director’s original works (Marcel the Shell with Shoes On.. which is the type of project Dean Camp should be making for Disney), why basically support Disney’s efforts in making lesser copycat versions of already great films, rather than re-releasing the originals in high definition with a great merchandising & marketing campaign behind them.. I’m just saying. I don’t think this is doing anything good for the talent & hard work that went into crafting the original let alone further original (or stories not yet adapted to) film that’d support the continuation of said legacy. It’s instead telling Disney, “releasing a lesser copycat version of a classic film that at the same time misses much of its core heart & identity, without the same artistry, heart, or creativity put into it, is perfectly fine & what we wanna see more of. The originals have no other value other than being a base for remakes of them w less creative vision & integrity”. It’s the antithesis of the message that Dreamfinder & Figment and the original Journey Into Imagination stood for. Like, it’s fine if you enjoyed it (it’s just a film at the end of the day.) But I’m just personally very surprised by your take, knowing you, and am just curious as to why exactly you’re so supportive of this, knowing what it is & the critiques you mentioned about changes to the characters & story. Judging by what I know about you and what you stand for, I’m just surprised that was your response.

I have seen the film twice, and will see it a third time next week.
The reason being is I have had several ‘Disney friends’ I know ask me if I would like to see it with them and accepted their invitation.
First time was pre-release, second was with a Disney friend, and third will be for a workplace outing.

So the multiple viewings are not nessesarily because the film is a creative knockout.
But I did enjoy it more than expected and the quality of the animation done for Stitch is excellent.

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Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I think what you're missing is the actual experience of the movie itself, as that goes along way into how one views it. Now you may feel the same after seeing it or you may feel different. But right now you're basing your opinion on someone else's review of it, not your own experience. So that is the difference and the disconnect that is happening with those that have seen it vs those that haven't.
“Abhorrent” is a very strong word for something you haven’t seen. I’m not saying you should watch it—I respect your choice not to—but you would probably be much less puzzled if you did.
I mean, that's true, but the changes I'm hearing are bad enough that I wouldn't want to financially support the movie anyways. I don't think seeing it would make me feel differently.
IMO you are way overthinking it.

It’s a movie. Go see it and enjoy. You’re not a movie critic. No need to hyper-critique. No reason to care if it’s live action. There is no “gotcha.” The worst that can happen is you don’t care for it.
The worst that can happen is that, but also that I'm giving my money in support of a film that I don't agree with- hence why I don't see any of these films. I just observe other's reactions to them. I know that makes my thoughts less valid, but like I said above- what I've heard is bad to me, and I don't want to support it. But I don't have issues if people do, I'm just surprised the reaction is THIS positive.
 

Disney Irish

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I mean, that's true, but the changes I'm hearing are bad enough that I wouldn't want to financially support the movie anyways. I don't think seeing it would make me feel differently.
Maybe you won't feel differently, but you'll never know until you actually see it. Also the "changes" aren't actually bad, they are just different. Had they been part of the original movie no one would have thought twice about it. Basically its not "ruining" anyone's childhood here, its just enough of a difference to make the story feel fresh while still keeping the story the same overall.

The worst that can happen is that, but also that I'm giving my money in support of a film that I don't agree with- hence why I don't see any of these films. I just observe other's reactions to them. I know that makes my thoughts less valid, but like I said above- what I've heard is bad to me, and I don't want to support it. But I don't have issues if people do, I'm just surprised the reaction is THIS positive.
I mean think of this way, you're not spending money to support the film you're spending money to support your local movie theater (which actually needs it). And if you happen to enjoy it in the process then even better. And the added benefit is that maybe you'll figure out why its gotten such positive reactions despite those changes you heard about.
 

Tony the Tigger

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I mean, that's true, but the changes I'm hearing are bad enough that I wouldn't want to financially support the movie anyways. I don't think seeing it would make me feel differently.

The worst that can happen is that, but also that I'm giving my money in support of a film that I don't agree with- hence why I don't see any of these films. I just observe other's reactions to them. I know that makes my thoughts less valid, but like I said above- what I've heard is bad to me, and I don't want to support it. But I don't have issues if people do, I'm just surprised the reaction is THIS positive.
Well, think for yourself. This is getting old. You’re agonizing over something so unimportant as seeing a movie - which you refuse to experience? Because…you heard stuff?

What did you hear? The BS that Lilo gets taken by the State? Because she doesn’t. That her sister abandons her? Because she doesn’t. That’s not even a spoiler. It’s like saying Dorothy doesn’t catch fire at the end of the Wizard of Oz, because it’s that preposterous.

Be very discerning in what you read and believe in all areas of life.

I am all for standing on principle, but do you realize how insignificant your $15 is to a (probably) billion dollar movie? You will neither help nor harm Disney whether you see it or not.

But there is yet another weak, concerted effort by the perpetually offended to pretend it is awful and “woke” or non-traditional or whatever. I’m so over it.

The film is adorable. All the people telling you they are crying at the end contradict the “it has no heart” baloney.

So the reality is you are also hearing it’s adorable and has heart, because I just told you. It’s not “The Godfather” or “Casablanca,” just a fun time at the theater.

The stakes are not high. Do what you want, but please stop torturing us.

Sorry to be blunt.
 

LSLS

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I hope that’s not how they think. Snow White had very specific issues. It wasn’t because people don’t like remakes.
It did, and Mermaid had it's own issues as well, but those are 2 higher profile movies that did not hit expectations. I think there would be a major shift if Stitch doesn't do well (and while it's doing great domestically, I'm sure they are hoping to see the percentage tic up for international). I've long been on record of hating these style of remakes, but as I said earlier, I'm on my own island about it in my family, let alone in the general public, so I'm probably a terrible barometer.
 

Tony the Tigger

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It did, and Mermaid had it's own issues as well, but those are 2 higher profile movies that did not hit expectations. I think there would be a major shift if Stitch doesn't do well (and while it's doing great domestically, I'm sure they are hoping to see the percentage tic up for international). I've long been on record of hating these style of remakes, but as I said earlier, I'm on my own island about it in my family, let alone in the general public, so I'm probably a terrible barometer.
I have no problem with them. Like any movies, some are better than others. Stitch is a great example of how a moviegoer relating to (good) human actors is a different experience vs. animated ones.

So many movies get remade, or remade with a different title. Some version of “You’ve Got Mail” and “A Star Is Born” have been redone since the 1930s/40s. Not to mention Batman, Spider-Man. Everyone else was redoing Snow White, why not reclaim it? Maybe they could make a case for reasserting copyright vs. public domain (?) Or just do it before someone else does, in the case of other titles.

I would not watch the animated Sleeping Beauty today. Probably haven’t seen it since the 70s. But I’ll watch Maleficent every few years.

I had no interest in Stitch since it came out. Never saw it, never was into the merch. The trailers for the live action reached me, and I went to see it and enjoyed it. I’ll now be more receptive to Stitch stuff in general. So, it worked. They brought in new people to like Stitch.

Then there are some like The Jungle Book where I enjoy both versions. Cool.

The general public are not against remakes. I see that as some kind of Groupthink on boards like this. It’s the same that encourages people to say they are “against IP” in the parks because they’ve been taught that’s what they’re supposed to say to sound like they know what they’re talking about.

I happen to disagree. And we’ll never know, but I suspect Walt would be exceedingly proud of his successful IPs and eager to let people meet and experience them exclusively in his parks.
 

LSLS

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I have no problem with them. Like any movies, some are better than others. Stitch is a great example of how a moviegoer relating to (good) human actors is a different experience vs. animated ones.

So many movies get remade, or remade with a different title. Some version of “You’ve Got Mail” and “A Star Is Born” have been redone since the 1930s/40s. Not to mention Batman, Spider-Man. Everyone else was redoing Snow White, why not reclaim it? Maybe they could make a case for reasserting copyright vs. public domain (?) Or just do it before someone else does, in the case of other titles.

I would not watch the animated Sleeping Beauty today. Probably haven’t seen it since the 70s. But I’ll watch Maleficent every few years.

I had no interest in Stitch since it came out. Never saw it, never was into the merch. The trailers for the live action reached me, and I went to see it and enjoyed it. I’ll now be more receptive to Stitch stuff in general. So, it worked. They brought in new people to like Stitch.

Then there are some like The Jungle Book where I enjoy both versions. Cool.

The general public are not against remakes. I see that as some kind of Groupthink on boards like this. It’s the same that encourages people to say they are “against IP” in the parks because they’ve been taught that’s what they’re supposed to say to sound like they know what they’re talking about.

I happen to disagree. And we’ll never know, but I suspect Walt would be exceedingly proud of his successful IPs and eager to let people meet and experience them exclusively in his parks.
See, I like the ones told in a different perspective (Maleficent is a great example). I'm completely over the same stories with an added scene or whatever. I'd agree the trailers looked good for this one, but I just can't bring myself to care enough for something I've already seen at that price (and yes I'm being cheap about it).

I don't think we have enough data points yet to say people are sick of the shot for shot remakes, but I do think it's noticeable they aren't printing money at all times like they were for a while. There definitely are other factors in play with it (especially Snow White), so there's no way to jump to a conclusion, but it's interesting to see if there is any change occurring or not. And it might not be in this country as much as it is internationally, and as far as I am from the pulse of the general movie public in the US, times that by 100 for international.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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they’ve been taught that’s what they’re supposed to say to sound like they know what they’re talking about.

I happen to disagree. And we’ll never know, but I suspect Walt would be exceedingly proud of his successful IPs and eager to let people meet and experience them exclusively in his parks.
Oh cmon, you know full well this is a bad faith argument.. you don’t genuinely believe that’s what we’re saying and what’s happening, do you? That’s not at all what the majority of us are saying. We’re simply people that care about the originality, creativity, quality, and talent of the company first and foremost and the legacy & impact made from that. What’s actually being said (by me included) is that we’re sick of the ‘overdoing’ on tieing every new attraction to pre-existing film IP rather than letting Imagineering make successful original attractions like they did in the past, aswell as constantly coming at the expense of classic attractions that in our opinion, would be better benfitted by better maintenance standards to keep them operating at their best and/or tasteful enhancements & tech & spfx improvements rather than needlessly gutting them entirely. The other argument is there’s plenty of space to be used aswell as space for a new park and attractions that’d fit the themes they want to explore that they simply refuse to do for some reason, despite it only improving park capacity & variety and not coming at the expense of it.
Most of us could say we love attractions based on IP, we just don’t want additional new attractions constantly coming at the expense of the classics we love aswell as new non-film tied attractions. Basically we want a better balance/variety instead of mostly just one direction of making everything tied to a film.

It’s Infact a very similar argument that we make about recent films here.. we’re just tired of ‘mostly’ remakes & sequels being made now rather than more originality w good talent that understands and wants to continue on what made the legacy films work behind it. Walt once said “You can’t top pigs with pigs”, after he’d made a sequel to the highly successful Three Little Pigs short, and it didn’t do as well. Walt had both love for the nostalgic while also pursuing new ideas. But it seems that keeps getting lost more and more often. And I’d argue, ‘if’ the current day originals aren’t making as much of a profit or impact atm as remakes and sequels.. I believe there is a bigger issue within the company at hand, which is the production process behind it aswell as who’s behind it and (mostly) what happened behind the scenes with it that made it a failure. No better example of the issue happening than what happened with Wish. Disney typically has a story trust in the main animation studio made up of various successful creative folks to have meetings with to get feedback of what could possibly be improved or fixed. Also they have plenty of contacts of Renaissance era folks they can get in touch with or mentorship or feedback from. If that’s not at all even being even considered ‘or’ if the executives are meddling with things within the creative process where they shouldn’t… then they should invest into and tackle that issue first. Both within the live action ‘and’ animation divisions. And if it’s still a worry, again, proof from the success of the releases via Fathom Events & GKids with the Studio Ghibli classics, adding that with a merchandising campaign similar to what Disney did in the 90s & prior. That ‘should’ be the thing that’d cushion Disney financially without spending too much without a (in their eyes) guranteed good return on new films they’re not sure about, at the same time get folks more on board with those characters and stories, not to mention the art of animation better than a remake many have more issues with than not, ever could do.

The other example that could be used from Walt’s era.. is when his slew of package features weren’t doing as well at the box office.. what should almost always be done is something similar to that scenario .. it was folks in finance that were saying “Hey, why don’t we do another princess fairytale like Snow White”? The finance folks trusted the creative talent to do it, Walt and his creative team did this, and they were still creative with it in making a story that they hadn’t yet adapted in the form of Cinderella. It worked and was a HUGE success.. that is what should be done at the studios today.. but alas.. they’d rather mostly keep trying to top pigs, excuse me, actually, remake a pig that was already a fine/successful pig rather than something new that could be as successful as the pig if they trusted the proven talent behind it and folks that genuinely want to be guided by and work alongside them, to eventually take the reigns in their foot steps to deliver. .
 
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Disney Irish

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Oh cmon, you know full well this is a bad faith argument.. you don’t genuinely believe that’s what we’re saying and what’s happening, do you? That’s not at all what the majority of us are saying. We’re simply people that care about the originality, creativity, quality, and talent of the company first and foremost and the legacy & impact made from that. What’s actually being said (by me included) is that we’re sick of the ‘overdoing’ on tieing every new attraction to pre-existing film IP rather than letting Imagineering make successful original attractions like they did in the past, aswell as constantly coming at the expense of classic attractions that in our opinion, would be better benfitted by better maintenance standards to keep them operating at their best and/or tasteful enhancements & tech & spfx improvements rather than needlessly gutting them entirely. The other argument is there’s plenty of space to be used aswell as space for a new park and attractions that’d fit the themes they want to explore that they simply refuse to do for some reason, despite it only improving park capacity & variety and not coming at the expense of it.
Most of us could say we love attractions based on IP, we just don’t want additional new attractions constantly coming at the expense of the classics we love aswell as new non-film tied attractions. Basically we want a better balance/variety instead of mostly just one direction of making everything tied to a film.

It’s Infact a very similar argument that we make about recent films here.. we’re just tired of ‘mostly’ sequels & remakes being made now rather than more originality w good/understanding talent behind it. Walt once said “You can’t top pigs with pigs”, after he’d made a sequel to the highly successful Three Little Pigs short, and it didn’t do as well. Walt had both love for the nostalgic while also pursuing new ideas. But it seems that keeps getting lost more and more often. And I’d argue, ‘if’ the current day originals aren’t making as much of a profit or impact atm as remakes and sequels.. I believe there is a bigger issue within the company at hand, which is the production process behind it aswell as who’s behind it and what happened behind the scenes with it that made it a failure. No better example of the issue happening that what happened with Wish. Disney typically has a story trust in the main animation studio made up of various successful creative folks to have meetings with to get feedback of what could possibly be improved or fixed. Also they have plenty of contacts on Renaissance era folks they can get in touch with or mentorship or feedback from. If that’s not at all even being even considered ‘or’ if the executives are meddling with things within the creative process where they shouldn’t… then they should invest into and tackle that issue first. Both within the live action ‘and’ animation divisions. And if it’s still a worry, again, proof from the success of the releases via Fathom Events & GKids with the Studio Ghibli classics, adding that with a merchandising campaign similar to what Disney did in the 90s & prior. That ‘should’ be the thing that’d cushion Disney financially without spending too much without good return, get folks more on board with those characters and stories, not to mention the art of animation better than a remake many have more issues with than not ever could.

The other example that could be used from Walt’s era.. is when his slew of package features weren’t doing as well at the box office.. what should always be done is something similar to that scenario.. it was folks in finance that were saying “Hey, why don’t we do another princess fairytale like Snow White”? Walt and his team did this, but they were still creative with it in making a story that they hadn’t yet adapted. It worked and was a HUGE success.. that is what should be done at the studios today.. but alas.. they’d rather mostly keep trying to top pigs, excuse me, actually remake a pig that was already a fine/successful pig.
Lets leave the Park stuff to the Parks side of the forums.

I think a reality check needs to happen here. As much as I appreciate bringing Walt up, as I do it too, we're in a different era of movies than we were when Walt was around. You touched upon this but I don't think you're looking at the entire movie landscape and just looking only at Disney. With a few notable exceptions original content by and large from all studios just don't perform as well as movies from known IPs. If Walt was around today I suspect we wouldn't have much different movies being released, because its just the landscape of where the consumer appetite is for movies today. You can't force consumers to go to something if they aren't interested. And they rather go to sequels/prequels/reboots/remakes/etc than originals. Its just the nature of where things are right now. Maybe that changes in the future and we have a string of originals that do well, but until then don't expect to see any Hollywood studio put forth any huge amount of money on originals.

Also your example of the Fanthom events and such aren't good examples, they aren't bringing huge amounts of money that you think they are, they hardly ever get into the top 10 at the box office. So its hard to use that as an example of what Disney or any other studio should be done when those can't even bring in huge box office receipts.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Also your example of the Fanthom events and such aren't good examples, they aren't bringing huge amounts of money that you think they are, they hardly ever get into the top 10 at the box office. So it’s hard to use that as an example of what Disney or any other studio should be done when those can't even bring in huge box office receipts.
 

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