Lilo and Stitch live-action remake

Disney Irish

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I'm also disappointed that Stitch was completely CGI and they didn't go the Teddy route by having him as a puppet for the slower scenes.


I have to assume the reason is the blending of CG to Puppetry would probably come across as too much of an uncanny valley situation, and not look as good as it sounds.

Better to just go all CG or all Puppetry to avoid that, at least in my opinion. The hope though is that with the recent advancements in self contained free roaming AAs (as seen by the marketing for Stitch) they can use those in the future for movies like this, like they have with the BDX droids in the Mando&Grogu movie.
 

Figments Friend

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In the Parks
Yes
Industrial Light and Magic I see did the excellent CGI animation of Stitch.
It was the standout in the film for me, and I appreciated that those responsible for animating him went back to the source.
I see many subtle movements that can be traced back to the original character animation from the animated movie.

There was also a suit performer listed in the credits, as well as a puppeteer.
So this was a combined effort between three different performance skills to bring the character to life.

I thought it worked well, as the character looks and moves great.

Saw the film for a second time today, and enjoyed it even more.
This one is a crowd pleaser for those wanting a fun summer movie to enjoy with friends and family.


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DisneyHead123

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Not sure if this should go in the movie thread or a parks thread, but I'm really wondering what the over/under is on a Stitch ride appearing somewhere in the parks now.

Inside Out 2 did huge numbers but my guess is that the Inside Out franchise doesn't do as well merch-wise (I just don't see kids clamoring for an Ennui stuffy or an Anger lunchbox, although I could be wrong). Stitch combines huge box office with huge merch potential - wondering if they'll fast track a new attraction in the empty Tomorrowland theater were Stitch's Great Escape used to be.
 

Figments Friend

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In the Parks
Yes
I still think if ‘Stitch’s Great Escape’ had not been closed it could have been reworked and tied into this film.
They already had that those very impressive animatronic characters…and the preshow and actually show could have been changed to a different presentation.

A shame it did not last a little longer.
There would be a new interest in it now.

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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I saw the film earlier today.
This will do well, and families are going to love it.
Kids will be doing a lot of laughing methinks.
Stitch fans will also lap this up.

My mostly spoiler free review -

Like most of these live action remakes, the film basically recreates many of the scenes from the animated film but adds some additional content and subtext.
There are also several changes to the story for various reasons, some I am not sure why they felt a need to change.

The film begins at a very fast pace …but then slows down a little for story development which worked good considering the subject matter ( Nani and Lilo’s situation ).
The characters all held interest, and even a couple of new characters were entertaining.
Jumba’s role was shifted a bit…I won’t elaborate to keep this spoiler free, but I was in slight disagreement with the shift.

There were a lot of fun moments, and some of it happens at a breakneck speed.
Probably done to keep people engaged, since few today…especially kids…can’t focus on anything for more then 20 seconds.
Nothing seemed to drag by too slow or become too tedious…which was good.

Music sounded great.
The remade versions of the opening song and ‘Hawaiian Roller Coaster Ride’ were terrific hearing though the theatre loudspeakers.

The CGI animation done for Stitch is excellent.
Very true to who the character is and mimics the animation movements from the original film.
Lots of fun and unexpected surprises with this character, and all looking photo real and ‘cute and fluffy’ as Stitch would probably say himself.
Animation fans take note - it is worth seeing this film JUST to see the CGI Stitch in action.
Very well done.

Would I see this again?
Yes, I would sit through it again on the big screen…and probably will in a couple of days as I am getting more invitations to view it with different friends.

But having now seen it, I can say that I don’t think it necessarily needs to be seen on the big screen.
This can make fine tv screen viewing…so don’t feel like you are missing anything.
Certain films NEED to be seen on a giant screen.
This is not one of them, in my opinion.

This film is going to rake in the bucks regardless at the box office for sure.


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Hey, so.. I’m genuinely shocked by your decision and take here, knowing you and how we both are passionate about Disney getting back to the values & creative talent we knew them for. You say you disagreed with some of the core creative choices made (rightfully so, I might add).. so then why would you decide to see this, not once, but twice? No offense but that doesn’t make much sense to me. As a fellow fan of traditional animation and enjoyer of the original Lilo & Stitch.. sure, you could argue there’s a bit of talent showcased here in the quality of the CG animation and maybe the actors themselves, but it begs the question of “ is this really showcasing these folks’ best talent”? I’d honestly argue otherwise, I think it’s completely wasted here, especially after seeing the director’s original works (Marcel the Shell with Shoes On.. which is the type of project Dean Camp should be making for Disney), why basically support Disney’s efforts in making lesser copycat versions of already great films, rather than re-releasing the originals in high definition with a great merchandising & marketing campaign behind them.. I’m just saying. I don’t think this is doing anything good for the talent & hard work that went into crafting the original let alone further original (or stories not yet adapted to) film that’d support the continuation of said legacy. It’s instead telling Disney, “releasing a lesser copycat version of a classic film that at the same time misses much of its core heart & identity, without the same artistry, heart, or creativity put into it, is perfectly fine & what we wanna see more of. The originals have no other value other than being a base for remakes of them w less creative vision & integrity”. It’s the antithesis of the message that Dreamfinder & Figment and the original Journey Into Imagination stood for. Like, it’s fine if you enjoyed it (it’s just a film at the end of the day.) But I’m just personally very surprised by your take, knowing you, and am just curious as to why exactly you’re so supportive of this, knowing what it is & the critiques you mentioned about changes to the characters & story. Judging by what I know about you and what you stand for, I’m just surprised that was your response.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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I’d argue those simply complaining about core creative choices made w the remake (this isn’t referring to you Figments Friend , but a number of people I’ve witnessed talk about this film elsewhere), btw, IMO, are missing the forest through the trees as to what the actual problem is. It’s not the creative choices made for the remake, it’s the fact there even ‘is’ a remake in the first place and we all should just stop supporting that, period. My suggestion is we should all simply watch the originals that genuinely deserve your time & investment instead. The company especially should know better and actually trust their proven & successful creative talent (and those that want to follow in their footsteps) to make new classics that carry on the company’s reputation & legacy. Both in their animation ‘and’ live action film divisions. Not to mention, see the value in the ‘actual’ classics and not only (IMO completely unneccesary) remakes of them. Where & why do they think those characters & stories became successful to begin with? It simply baffles me how the company seems to not know the answer to that last sentence, the more I see films like this be released
 
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Disney Irish

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I’d argue those simply complaining about core creative choices too, btw, are missing the forest through the trees as to what the actual problem is. It’s not the creative choices made for the remake, it’s the fact there even ‘is’ a remake in the first place and we should just stop supporting that, period.
By and large I don't think anyone here has said they should continue the live action remakes. I think it's fairly universally agreed, something that is almost unheard of on this site, that Disney should stop the remakes.

So I don't think anyone is actually "supporting" anything, other than just trying to discuss what has already been made while still saying they shouldn't make anymore.
 

FigmentsBrightIdeas

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By and large I don't think anyone here has said they should continue the live action remakes. I think it's fairly universally agreed, something that is almost unheard of on this site, that Disney should stop the remakes.

So I don't think anyone is actually "supporting" anything, other than just trying to discuss what has already been made while still saying they shouldn't make anymore.
The trouble though is that the studios tend to look more at the box office numbers to see if something’s a success or not, rather than thoughts/opinions after it. We simply need to be better about choosing what we decide to invest in with this company as to not reward them for something we genuinely don’t want to see them continue. And trust me, I get we all are desperate to find something good or something worthwhile to see in today’s climate of entertainment, but you can’t let desperation bring you to pay for things that you know you won’t like even after seeing the trailer or hearing the initial details you learn about it. A remake is one of those things you don’t even need details to know, if you’re someone who isn’t typically a fan of studios remaking their classic films, to not support it, And I get it, again, it’s frustrating.. but as I think all of us can say in regards to Disney, money talks for them. And we need to make our voices heard with our wallets ‘aswell’ as feedback. Not just feedback. And while in the end, the company is truly at fault for even greenlighting and pushing these things to begin with, again, we need to make sure our wallets especially are going towards the things we want to see rather than not, to truly get the message across to the company.
 
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Disney Irish

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The trouble though is that the studios tend to look more at the box office numbers to see if something’s a success or not, rather than thoughts/opinions after it. We simply need to be better about choosing what we decide to invest in with this company as to not reward them for something we genuinely don’t want to see them continue. And trust me, I get we all are desperate to find something good or something worthwhile to see in today’s climate of entertainment, but you can’t let desperation bring you to pay for things that you know you won’t like even after seeing the trailer or hearing the initial details you learn about it. A remake is one of those things you don’t even need details to know, as someone who isn’t typically a fan of studios remaking their classic films, to not support it, And I get it, again, it’s frustrating.. but as I think all of us can say in regards to Disney, money talks for them. And we need to make our voices heard with our wallets ‘aswell’ as feedback. Not just feedback. And while in the end, the company is truly at fault for even greenlighting and pushing these things to begin with, again, we need to make sure our wallets especially are going towards the things we want to see rather than not, to truly get the message across to the company.
Except you're preaching to a choir here, this isn't some huge forum that has hundred of thousands of people. Its a small forum with a couple hundred people viewing the posts at most, that is a single small drop in the bucket in terms of number of actual movie goers. So even if you had everyone here committed to not going that is likely 0.01 of an opening weekend of a movie like this. Its not impactful enough to make a difference and change Disney's mind.

Also Disney has already apparently put a pause on the live action remakes anyways after the results of Snow White, so voices were already heard. So outside of the live action Moana which was already in production, I don't think many will be greenlit for awhile anyways.

Also and no offense, but we cannot tell people what to do with their wallets or their free time. While I appreciate the sentiment people are free to do with their money and their time what they will. If someone wants to spend their money on the live action remakes, so be it.
 
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FigmentsBrightIdeas

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Also and no offense, but we cannot tell people what to do with their wallets or their free time. While I appreciate the sentiment people are free to do with their money and their time what they will. If someone wants to spend their money on the live action remakes, so be it.
Hence why I simply suggested it, I’m not forcing anyone. Of course you can’t force someone what to and what not to spend their money on. Ultimately value is in the eyes of the beholder. Of course
 

Charlie The Chatbox Ghost

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I feel like I'm crazy, because everything I've seen about this movie's contents- the script, the changes, the handling of the characters and themes/messages from the original- have been bad if not outright abhorrent, and yet... people seem to think this is one of the best remakes, if not the best? Maybe I'm missing something, because watching/reading reviews it seems like the movie doesn't really understand the original and changes it for the worse, but here we are with so many people (not just here, but EVERYWHERE) praising it. I knew it was gonna be a success regardless of quality, and now we're stuck with more live action remakes and sequels/spinoffs to the remakes for another decade or two, but I didn't think there would be such a disconnect between what the film is and how people are responding to it.

I'll save my personal thoughts on what I've seen (I haven't seen this in a theater, just going off of reviews- I personally vote with my wallet and haven't seen a live action remake since Beauty and the Beast, which is what made me realize what these films actually were) for the spoiler thread if I feel like it, but it sounds like I'm the only one here who thinks the changes they made are just awful and shallow.
 

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