Some Disney math food for thought. With the way this doesn’t include repeats and also has you paying for LLs that you’d never need, how many of the heavy hitters can you cram into the 7 hour minimum VIP tour? Can you Disney math your way to the VIP tour actually being better value if you were considering this for multiple parks and have a large enough group? Hmm.
Edit - I must be very bothered with the way Premier Pass forces you to indirectly pay for attractions like Laugh Floor and Magic Carpets, that I’m mathing my way to a plaid.
As a fellow black belt in Disney Math, this is where I came out. If you want to stroll the parks aimlessly, take a lot of rest/shopping breaks, and ride everything with a LL (whether it even needs a LL), PP might make sense…but if you value your time and calculate “minute actually saved per dollar” or “thrills per dollar”, I think you come out way ahead on VIP tour, especially as a party of 8 or more. The one pass per ride *and* no park hopping makes this inferior to LLMP (even before adjusting for cost!) for people who want thrill rides, like to park hop, and know what they are doing.
It's safe to say that if a person looks at this and has to calculate things like "cost per ride" to determine its value, then they are not the target demographic of this pass….
This is a pass for a subset of people for whom "money is no object" when it comes to skipping lines without the hassle of pre-planning.
I don’t think it’s for someone who says money is no object (that’s VIP or C33), I think it’s for someone who says “I can afford $1000-3000 to make my day simpler, and I don’t really care if it’s much better than the product that costs 10% as much but only gets me 85% of the benefit with a little extra work.”
I think this is forgetting that there are people that could afford VIP, but choose not to because that sort of day/style doesn't appeal to them. It seems like it is trying to get those that can afford it but maybe did not want that, and this is more their style.
I was so excited to hear this product released because my husband does not want a plaid spending the day with our family but once I realized it only gets you on each ride once I lost interest—but it’s probably a much better product for people who actually want to do everything at a slow and unstructured pace.
The only thing is ILL did NOT incentivize them to build new, it incentivized them to replace so that they can charge money for a new ride without needing to hire staff to run the new and old ones.
I tentatively disagree. We’re seeing a big new building push because Disney knows folks like me will pay $25/person/ride to do the fun new thing for a year or two. It also probably helps sell after hours and holiday parties. I’ll fully disagree when these new D and E tickets come into existence.
The price point is not wildly different from after hours events at 3/4 of the parks. This is more of a mainstream kind of splurge product IMO.
I agree, it’s the kind of thing your average GF, Poly, or BCV guest can splurge on occasionally and perhaps the kind of thing a very wealthy person does every time without thinking about it, just in case they need it.
But then again no matter how you slice it I’d probably feel pretty dumb spending all that money and eliminating a night from my vacation to ride 7DMT, Tron and a bunch of rides I have at Disneyland that I visit 20+ times a year. I’d probably just end up buying the single use LL’s for 7DMT/ Tron and LL multi pass and call it a day.
I think you made a good economic argument for it, but as a fellow DLR person, I think you landed at the same place I did. If you’re savvy about LLMP and willing to rope drop, I’d rather spend the same amount of money on two days enjoying the best/unique rides instead of one day doing every ride. Also, if you’re a coaster person you might want to do LLSP for Cosmic Rewind on your extra day or use the park hop functionality of LLMP to visit DHS and do RnRC, or start in AK on Everest before booking a coaster elsewhere, etc.