Lightning Lane Premier Pass

MickeyLuv'r

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Currently doing a combined Uni / WDW trip, and I have the Uni passes that give you express pass after 4 pm. Uni Express pass is significantly inferior to lightning lane.

Express Pass just isnt’ like that at all. The ratio of EP to Standby is something like 1:1. A 120 minute standby wait (and there were several of those today at Universal) is still going to be 30-60 minutes in line. Don’t get me wrong, I love my express pass after 4, but lightning lane is superior in execution (just not in price).

I can’t even imagine how ed someone who paid sticker price for express pass today would feel, still standing in 30-60 minute lines all day.
I feel the complete opposite. I much prefer the ease of using Express Pass over WDW's LL's.

At Universal, I just go on whichever ride I want, whenever I want, and I can go on it as many times in a row as I wish with minimal waiting.
With EP, even over busy holiday weeks, which I've done many times, I do not wait 30+ for the rides at Universal.

(If you're regularly waiting that long, you're likely doing something wrong.)

At WDW, guests have to jump through all kinds of hoops to get a limited # of LL passes. It is not at all as easy to use as EP. Even if I bought LLPP, I'd only be able to ride each attraction once. I also dislike WDW's dumb 7am VQ lottery. In the morning, I want a few moments to quietly sip my coffee while I enjoy the sunrise.

Alas, I vote with my wallet. I save WDW for slower months and favor Universal if I'm visiting Orlando over a major holiday week. MK still has better fireworks, but at present, US is vastly easier to tour over holiday weeks.
 

MickeyLuv'r

Well-Known Member
Yes, it could be because Disney cant fill its most expensive rooms.

But maybe -

Converting regular rooms into DVC is an Instant money maker (similar to LLPP) the rooms are already there, slap a label on them and call them DVC and sell them for massive bucks and we already know the nightly rates for a DVC room is insane if one chooses to do so. 🤑

Maybe when they are converting rooms into DVC the maintenance for those rooms is also converted to a DVC cost.

Maybe when the rooms that are converted into DVC; those rooms are also moved out of the regular room inventory, could it be possible that a lower inventory can allow them to charge more for the remaining rooms?
I should think cutting out daily room service saves WDW quite a bit of money.
 

WDWTrojan

Well-Known Member
you sure about that? They may have changed it but I watched a couple of YouTubers and it was only once (no re rides) on the VIP tour and also on this one, they COULD NOT GET ON TRON!!!! it was when it first opened or previews or something

You get one ride on Tron, one on Tiana's and two rides on Guardians. Everything else offers re-rides, though frustratingly you have to sit through all the pre-shows every time. That's a big ask for a $750/hour tour - especially when you basically get the same thing (minus the car and fireworks viewing) for $300/person with the new product.
 
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TheMaxRebo

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You get one ride on Tron, one on Tiana's and two rides on Guardians. Everything else offers re-rides, though frustratingly you have to sit through all the pre-shows every time. That's a big ask for a $750/hour tour - especially when you basically get the same thing (minus the car and fireworks viewing) for $300/person with the new product.

and the services of the CM and you can go to multiple parks while LLPP only works at one park ... but yeah, if the main reason you are doing the VIP tour is to skip lines/get on rides then LLPP might be a good alternative
 

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