Indy_UK
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You want park capacity and new stuff? Then you're going to pay for it as we aren't taking out of the shareholders profits.
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Lightning Lane Premier Pass
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You want park capacity and new stuff? Then you're going to pay for it as we aren't taking out of the shareholders profits.
JD80
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This isn't a ride per dollar calculation. This is a I don't have to plan or schedule anything dollar calculation.
If you have to calculate ride per dollar then this offering isn't for you.
Uni: Stay in our deluxe resorts and receive Express Pass FREE!
Disney: Stay in our overpriced deluxe resorts and receive the option to pay us more to get LLs
Disney: Stay in our overpriced deluxe resorts and receive the option to pay us more to get LLs
JD80
Well-Known Member
Uni: ...for our old parks.
Kingoglow
Well-Known Member
This is my impressions as well.
LLPP will allow Disney to stress test the upper limit of what guests are willing to spend on LL's without disrupting their cashflow from the current LLMP/SP pool.
The data Disney derives from this offering will effect us all in a year when the suddenly surge the cost of LLMP from $35 to $100+.
JAN J
Active Member
It's a good point. Given how expensive these are some VIP guest "customers" might migrate to Premier Pass, though I believe celebrities that need peace and quiet and actual millionaires might still stick to it.
JMcMahonEsq
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This is just stupid. If you had an option that was CHEAPER, and was only for the most in demand rides then everyone would buy it, which would really defeat the entire purpose of a ride skip. It would just be the defact standby line.
JAN J
Active Member
Point 1: Maybe, but only marginally. This is REALLY expensive, not a lot of people have that money to shell. And maybe some of the previous VIP guest tour customers (though do they not already do the LL queues?)
Point 2: If a lot of people buy, possibly, but if it's too niche they can just sell the extra quantity and not bother losing volume on LLMP and Single LL.
RSoxNo1
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I truly think this will have minimal impact on the average guest. No more than your average VIP tour does. The variable is obviously how many they end up selling per day.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is essentially back filling the previously used DAS capacity, now with a price point.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is essentially back filling the previously used DAS capacity, now with a price point.
Brer Oswald
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I won’t. I’m not even planning to visit these parks anymore.
SpaceMountain77
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What if I want to buy the park out for the day, stand at an entry touchpoint, and yell "poors" at everyone that tries to get in? How much for this magical experience?
Disgruntled Walt
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Unfortunately, I am finally planning to visit these parks again this coming summer. Can't afford to already. Definitely won't be paying for this.
And the news just keeps getting worse.
DisDude33
Active Member
Then why are you here?
surfsupdon
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And it’s STILL not as good or convenient as Universal Express. Staying at their hotel, included in the price, and the ability to reride and park hop!
Unreal!
Unreal!
Disgruntled Walt
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Maybe because he's passionate about how things used to be and wants to advocate for a return to those times? That's why I'm here.
Until about two months ago, I wasn't sure I was going to get back to the parks either. But it's my parents' 50th Wedding Anniversary, and they took my brothers and I to WDW (if we got straight As) for years as we were growing up. It's the perfect place for us to celebrate this occasion, but Disney keeps making terrible, terrible choices that are going to make this trip VERY inferior to what we're used to as a family.
MickeyLuv'r
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Just priced out a 4-night Universal stay a few days ago.
offsite for $970 ($242/night)
onsite at Sapphire Falls for $1165.
onsite at Royal Pacific for $1810.
So that's 5 days of EP for an upcharge of $645- 840.
With 2 people, that works out to getting EP for $65-84 /person /day.
For a family with 2 adults+2kids in the room, the price drops to $42-32.30 /person /day.
In terms of what the hotel each like, the 3 hotels are comparable in amenities, except the offsite room is bigger, includes a so-so breakfast, but no water slide/just a basic pool. (Though I'm sure there are less expensive offsite options, the one I priced is close to Universal.)
offsite for $970 ($242/night)
onsite at Sapphire Falls for $1165.
onsite at Royal Pacific for $1810.
So that's 5 days of EP for an upcharge of $645- 840.
With 2 people, that works out to getting EP for $65-84 /person /day.
For a family with 2 adults+2kids in the room, the price drops to $42-32.30 /person /day.
In terms of what the hotel each like, the 3 hotels are comparable in amenities, except the offsite room is bigger, includes a so-so breakfast, but no water slide/just a basic pool. (Though I'm sure there are less expensive offsite options, the one I priced is close to Universal.)
Drdcm
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I have a pitch. “Lightning lane single pass all access pass”. For just $22 ($38) at magic kingdom you will be eligible to join virtual queues for purchasing one lightning lane single pass of your choosing. *obtaining a lightning lane single pass is dependent on availability and not guaranteed. **does not include purchase of lightning lane single pass.
DisDude33
Active Member
That’s fair. I have only been going to the parks regularly for the last 10ish years and I have definitely noticed a decline in value over that time.
My original question probably seems ruder than I meant for it to. Between the cost and some worsening health issues I don’t know how many (if any at all) more trips my family will have but I like to come to see forums and see other people talk about their trips and excitement for the parks and I am legitimately curious about other people’s mindset about engaging with things they do not plan on experiencing anymore.
UberMouse
Active Member
I don't know. The original paper Fastpass system worked really well, and it was free. I'm not sure how old you are, but for me, that was peak experience. I've been going to the parks with memory since I was 3, and that was in 1979. Fastpass line was fast, usually 15 minutes or less. And, again, it was free and everyone had access. Your example doesn't hold up.