Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[djkidkaz]

Notable Rise of the Resistance point from the D23 interview with Josh:

Think about Rise of the Resistance. It’s a highly demanded attraction. Guests show up in the morning and they try to get into the virtual queue. We get as many people on there as we can, but inevitably someone is disappointed. Now there’s another option on top of the virtual queue so if Rise of the Resistance is the reason you’re at Disneyland or Disney’s Hollywood Studios, there will be an option for you to purchase Rise of the Resistance. So again: flexibility, optionality, better guest experience overall.

right, but obviously right now your packing every person possible onto the ride you can in a day. So to offer this for a cost, you have to scale back how many people a day can be let in to leave space for those that pay for it. So your purposefully disappointing people who may have previously gotten into a boarding group for free so you can offer them a pay option later.

 

[NelsonRD]

You're not trying to book "peak time," you're trying to book 9am.

Right. And a 9am wait time is short for T2 attractions. Nobody is rope dropping Haunted Mansion. So the advantage doesn't apply until later in the day, where offsite guests can then book. How does the 7am window help?

 

[WDWTrojan]

So what exactly is stopping anyone from saying they are disabled and get all of the genie benefits for free? The abuse I witnessed of the fast pass line last week on my trip was unreal.

How do you know who is abusing DAS vs on a child swap, service recovery, Club 33, etc?

 

[flynnibus]

In a DAS FAQ on the official Disney site, the company states, "If Disney determines that any of the statements a Guest made in the process of obtaining DAS are not true, the Guest will be permanently barred from entering Walt Disney World Resort and the Disneyland Resort, and any previously purchased annual passes, Magic Key passes, tickets and other park products and services will be forfeited and not refunded."

Disney overhauls Disability Access Service with Genie adding new features and will permanently ban from the parks anyone abusing the system

DAS will become much more convenient with new video chat registration and other new features.

www.wdwmagic.com

And in common sense faq... it says "Disney won't really be able to tell any more then they do today... and Disney doesn't want to face a discrimination lawsuit for actually denying services... so this is really just a bluff that Disney could never exercise until AFTER a court case"

Sure this could debunk the old push your friends in a wheelchair thing - but DAS abuse is so far beyond that these days. Everyone has special needs...

 

[Javier Antonio Nisa Avila]

Standby isn't going away. Just like they existed with FP+, they'll exist with Genie+$.

I don't know how people organize. However, I used to wait for standby while I was waiting for my fast pass. This was the difference. Now, we have to pay for fast pass, a service that used to be free

 

[Figgy1]

Let me get this straight - you know your child has issues with patience, temper tantrums in public, and having to wait. Hmmmm....where should I take him to inflict pain and misery on both him and those innocent people around him? I know! I'll take him to the one place in the world where you are guaranteed to have to wait and have patience in crowds! Disney World! Brilliant!

#parentoftheyear

She's not a parent and would gladly trade the DAS for her brother not to have autism

 

[nickys]

Smart money says buy Genie+, rope drop these, and don't do ANY a la carte.

Yep. Especially if you’re staying onsite and can get one of those done in the first 30 minutes.

 

[FigmentsFangirl]

So basically its like this

Genie: = My Disney Experience Remixed and uipdated
Genie+: "Pay Per View" add on ?

 

[flynnibus]

Who brings headphones into the parks anyways!?

It's literally "hey, come to a theme park to be immersed, and then turn all that off!".. next up... they'll offer VR goggles

 

[MurphyJoe]

I'm wondering if you're going to be able to hold a paid lighting pass and a boarding group for an attraction at the same time?

 

[BaconPancakes]

A video call... lol

DAS bookings are gonna be through the roof.

Lol Right? A video call isn’t going to deter anyone. Get ready for insane fast pass lines of “disabled” guests…

 

[nickys]

So what exactly is stopping anyone from saying they are disabled and get all of the genie benefits for free? The abuse I witnessed of the fast pass line last week on my trip was unreal.

You don’t get all the benefits for free. You’ll get a couple for free and for the rest you’ll be given a return time based on the standby line.

 

[CP_alum08]

Seems like we’re getting very close to the old days of pay per ride / ticket books again

 

[MrPromey]

That's where it starts, but not where it'll end.

Yeah, the OG desert party at MK was relatively low priced when it first started, too. Then it quickly doubled... then... Well, lets just say it much more than doubled from that doubled price to get to where it's at today.

That it started at less than $20 a person for adults and less than $10 for kids and was considered profitable before they had any idea of what they could get out of people for it is really telling when you think about what they charge now.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

Let me get this straight - you know your child has issues with patience, temper tantrums in public, and having to wait. Hmmmm....where should I take him to inflict pain and misery on both him and those innocent people around him? I know! I'll take him to the one place in the world where you are guaranteed to have to wait and have patience in crowds! Disney World! Brilliant!

#parentoftheyear

1. I'm not the parent
2. He's been 50+ times to WDW plus four times to DL and goes every weekend to our local amusement park. He can handle it with accomodations that exist.

 

[Patcheslee]

That will be uberGenie+ - you just hire a Genie to wait there for you.

I would actually almost pay for that one. $5/hr/person if it gave me less than a 5 minute wait. And if CM could get tipped lol

 

[jpinkc]

If enough rides are not included the $15 option it won’t sell. It should only be 2-3 rides not on this option, if it’s more then it won’t work at Epcot, DHS, and AK. You can restrict Pandora, SWGE, Slinky, Rat, Guardians (Test Track until it opens,) But if you go beyond that to all the Tier 1 FP+ rides at other parks, you leave little else of value leading to dissatisfaction.

But you have to buy it in order to be able to buy those TIER 1 LIGHTNING PASSES

 

[MuteSuperstar]

This all sounds like so much fun! Absolutely absurd, all of it. Maybe I go back one more time to attempt to enjoy the remaining classics, but I think that will probably be it for me.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

That's confirmed at this point in the new system or are you going by how it worked with the split-tier options at Hollwood Studios prior to covid?

If the former, that's a surprising positive sign.* If it's the ladder, I wouldn't read anything at all into that.

*This thread has grown by 8 pages since I started reading it so I'm sure stuff has been uncovered ahead of where I"m at I haven't gotten to yet.

Confirmed.

Tier 1: Space, Mine Train, Test Track, Rat, Rise, Slinky, Kilimanjaro, and FoP.

 

[wdwmagic]

So how is the news going on Twitter and Facebook? I haven't had a chance to check.