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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
yes, its terrible
LSLS
Well-Known Member
That's not answering my question. They could have done other stuff. Why didn't they? Why did they change to the 3 prebooked with tiers? Why did they not leave Genie alone, or just add pre-booking to the same system?
GhostHost1000
Premium Member
Limited selection is mainly because there aren’t enough attractions to select from first and foremost. The longer you stay, the more availability there is as well.
The modify refresh button is your friend. Just like with G+. Although it sounds like more of a friend in G+ because everyone can hold onto 3 attractions throughout the day now. Not sure why they did it that way honestly.
Have you actually used the new system or just going by what you are hearing and knowing how you typically visit the parks?
Every scheme since paper FastPasses has been terrible.
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
to try and sell hotel rooms but it will 100% backfire because it actually PENALIZES resort guests who dont rope drop, which is 90% of resort guests.......
you will see...this wont last 3 months
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
and paper FP was the second worse to this system
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Just buy a dvc contract and plan in advance…enjoy parks the way they are now meant to be…problem solved
lightningtap347
Well-Known Member
I think there's pros and cons to both systems and I actually enjoyed my usage of this system much more than I was expecting to. I don't understand the circular argument that's been going on for what seems like ten pages now.
ConfettiCupcake
Well-Known Member
Pssst… Genie+ lasted the shortest out of all iterations of the system
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
i just dont understand how Disney constantly gets it wrong and angers a good deal of its guests..........
Universal has np complaints, has had the same system inn place since if first existed and everyone believes its vastly suprior
but disney changes their every 3 years on average and angers guests, impact sales, have reduced GAST numbers and this one of the worst of them all, continuing their constant missteps
Universal has np complaints, has had the same system inn place since if first existed and everyone believes its vastly suprior
but disney changes their every 3 years on average and angers guests, impact sales, have reduced GAST numbers and this one of the worst of them all, continuing their constant missteps
DisneyHead123
Well-Known Member
I can definitely see that you loved this system and I'm sorry it changed on you.
That said, the way you describe it, it basically sounds like Universal's Express Pass, except for $30. There's just no way.
I think if you have a lot of factors in your favor, it probably worked pretty well for some people. Those being:
- Traveling solo or in a small group
- Visiting the parks during off seasons and off hours
- Able to wait around for drops or refresh, on the chance something comes up
- Almost total flexibility in what you ride next, i.e., a headliner opens, you go for it
Contrast that to the experience of many families, who are:
- Traveling in large multigenerational groups
- Visit during peak travel times
- Can only visit the parks for a few hours a day
- Are on a set schedule and can't wait around with the hope that something might open up
- Have very specific rides that they promise their children based on favorite movies, favorite rides, it's Little Billy's turn to pick because his sister picked the last ride, etc.
For us Genie+ was basically worth 2 rides, 3 at most, with the third usually being a throw-away that was a 20 minute wait even during peak spring break season.
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
I bought BLT 2010 and have added on 4x, 690 total points, all Dec use yearJust buy a dvc contract and plan in advance…enjoy parks the way they are now meant to be…problem solved
Vegas Disney Fan
Well-Known Member
I liked Maxpass, should I be vehemently arguing for its return?
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
what part....its pretty simple....you get much lower yield, both in quality and quantity......
LSLS
Well-Known Member
I'll bet you that's not close to the only reason. They had SO MANY complaints every day about Genie. You can say all you want about how you could get this or that, but the reality is most didn't have 25+ times of experience using it. There were more than a few people who didn't get more than one thing really worth it out of Genie (worth it meaning like sure, I could get Nemo seating or Dino, but who cares, it's like a 5 minute wait anyways). Go ahead and bash away at people for not doing research or not using it correctly, the reality is most people didn't use it to maximize everything, and they let the kids working guest services know all about it. A LOT. They made the 3 pass system specifically to ensure people A.) Knew the minimum they were getting and B.) made sure they got three they would at least want.
JIMMYEDDIE
Active Member
yes b of 7am and no resort perks b Chapek thought they were immune to guest pushback after he cheaped out and took away all on site perks
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…you’d think that would hint at something?
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
It starts and ends with capacity. They don't have enough for any of these systems to work. It's why they keep changing it.