Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

[ConfettiCupcake]

what about all the people that go to buy it and see sold out and have no clue about drops (prob 90% of the users buying it)? they will never buy it

They’ll miss out like they did with Genie+. Rides with drops like Tiana, Slinky, and Remy were absolutely not available easily with Genie either. I’m not buying into the revisionist history of Genie+. No line skip system has been kind to the guest who has not learned how to manipulate it.

 

[Jrb1979]

you could have had both....no 7am AND a much more efficient genie.....why do people not understand this?

You're missing the point. As much as I agree that this new system sucks at least for how my family tours the parks.

Most guests are happy with 3 a day as that's all they want to ride. Being able to plan out their days ahead of time works for them.

 

[Saskdw]

Anyone figure out what the problem
With rides is yet?

Yes.

There isn't enough of them. They are running at 1/2 capacity. And most break down daily.

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

you could have had both....no 7am AND a much more efficient genie.....why do people not understand this?

Do you actually think you’ve come up with a system idea that Disney did not consider? That they’re just bumbling their way through this and didn’t move to the 3 scheduled rides system intentionally to meet a certain goal?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yes.

There isn't enough of them. They are running at 1/2 capacity. And most break down daily.

By design for 20 years…and they have a monetary stake in putting pressure points there.

I’m just wondering if the long nap is over yet?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Give you one thing that’s better? I’ll give you a few:
- prebooking
- easier to plan your park day/route
- know times for 3 attractions ahead of time instead of zig zagging all over the parks
- being able to book another as soon as you use 1


Now with all that being said, there are pros and cons to all the systems they have tried and the end result is nothing will be perfect because there isn’t enough attractions and many do their park days differently

I do wish they had just allowed resort guests to book 1 LL and ILL in advance for each of their park days and left the rest as it was but oh well

 

[Saskdw]

By design for 20 years…and they have a monetary stake in putting pressure points there.

I’m just wondering if the long nap is over yet?

Bob still looks tired.

 

[Jrb1979]

By design for 20 years…and they have a monetary stake in putting pressure points there.

I’m just wondering if the long nap is over yet?

It's why I don't get why they went back to this system. It didn't work the first time. They must really be panicking trying to fill rooms. I doubt this is going to do much either.
When free dining doesn't move the needle you know there is issues.

 

[JIMMYEDDIE]

3 crappy rides. Majority aren't there to ride rides all day or want to get as many tier 1 rides they want.

LOL.....you just prioved my point

 

[Purduevian]

all you had to know was to book at 7am and then every 2 hours and you would BLOW AWAY what this system yields.....thats not too hard to educate guests on

That has 0 to do with the quoted post... I was saying you can't compare 4pm availability of LLMP to 4pm availability of G+....

I take it you don't like the new system? Have you tried it yet?

 

[JIMMYEDDIE]

Remind me again how you’d swing that?

7am, SDD......
10AM, TOT
noon, MMRR

vs now: RNR for 5pm return, and TSMM

 

[ConfettiCupcake]

I want this magical system where capacity didn’t exist. I used Genie+ multiple times instead

 

[Saskdw]

It's why I don't get why they went back to this system. It didn't work the first time. They must really be panicking trying to fill rooms. I doubt this is going to do much either.
When free dining doesn't move the needle you know there is issues.

Free dining isn't moving the needle because they are trying to pass off the QS chicken finger dining plan as free dining.
They need to offer full free dining at Mod resorts like they used to.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's why I don't get why they went back to this system. It didn't work the first time. They must really be panicking trying to fill rooms. I doubt this is going to do much either.
When free dining doesn't move the needle you know there is issues.

The Walt Disney company is desperate for revenue

Not Orlando…not a certain park…the whole outfit.

Why do people think their stock falls as practically every other one on earth rises? There’s a huge problem in entertainment.

That’s what all this is…financial panic being handled $1 at a time

 

[Jrb1979]

everything you said....BUT: that same family could ride whatever they wanted vs what they had to take


thats genie vs this crap

On-site guests having a 7 day headstart will likely get just about anything they want when they want.

7am, SDD......
10AM, TOT
noon, MMRR

vs now: RNR for 5pm return, and TSMM

It hasn't been a week yet so a lot of this is still day of for most guests. That's just looking at whats available today. From most reports there is lots of availability 7 days out.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Bob still looks tired.

…he looks short to me

 

[LSLS]

what one would you pick?

1) 3 crappy rides

2) as many tier 1 rides as i would want?

I'm curious, why do you think they changed to this system? If Genie worked for most guests, and was great, why did they make this change? Honestly as someone who knows people in Guest Relations at the parks, I've got a pretty good guess, but I'm curious your thoughts.

 

[Jrb1979]

The Walt Disney company is desperate for revenue

Not Orlando…not a certain park…the whole outfit.

Why do people think their stock falls as practically every other one on earth rises? There’s a huge problem in entertainment.

That’s what all this is…financial panic being handled $1 at a time

It looks good on them. This keeps going and the stock keeps falling I can see the day a takeover happens and Disney gets sold off in pieces.

 

[JIMMYEDDIE]

You only used G+ 25x? When did you use this new system? Did you refresh and modify to see what become available?

Give you one thing that’s better? I’ll give you a few:
- prebooking
- easier to plan your park day/route
- know times for 3 attractions ahead of time instead of zig zagging all over the parks
- being able to book another as soon as you use 1


Now with all that being said, there are pros and cons to all the systems they have tried and the end result is nothing will be perfect because there isn’t enough attractions and many do their park days differently

I do wish they had just allowed resort guests to book 1 LL and ILL in advance for each of their park days and left the rest as it was but oh well

1) Prebooking from a limited selection is NOT better than pre booking with Genie+ and unlimited selection = Not debatable

2) Limited inventory pushes my first selection to 5pm when i tour my first park from 11am-4pm, eliminating any spontaneity and messing up my dining and park hopping plans

3) Getting the top rides in the park vs getting Tier2 selections that were walk ons with Genie+ (5pm in MK, POC, ISW, HM, BUZZ and SPACE were Genie+ walk on selections and never ran out of availably

4) Genie+ allowed you to book after you used also

 

[JIMMYEDDIE]

I'm curious, why do you think they changed to this system? If Genie worked for most guests, and was great, why did they make this change? Honestly as someone who knows people in Guest Relations at the parks, I've got a pretty good guess, but I'm curious your thoughts.

they could have accomplished the same goals with resort guests pre booking the first only, eliminating the 7am, giving clear advantage to resort guests, while preserving inventory, yielding better rides results during day while [reserving spontaneity, while not penalizing non rope droppers while not penalizing day guests as bad as they did