They also need to be careful how much they hold back from pre-booking.Yeah, early indications are that it won’t be much different for power users who have a good feel for the drop times. Even if rides “sell out“ in pre-booking more reservations will drop just like Genie+. Still too soon to judge fully since they are still adjusting the system, but if they are holding back capacity for operational reasons as a cushion the availability should eventually get better. The only thing that could potentially hurt this system is its early positive reviews. The more people who buy the less capacity available so could be a victim of its own success.
Thrill data (https://www.thrill-data.com/lightning-lane/wdw) is able to show 21 day out availability. For the biggest hitters though (if you booked today for August 7th)What do the times look like at 7AM a week out for resort guests?
Ride | Earliest return time if you booked at 7am today | Earliest return time if you booked now ~11:15am |
Tiana | Sold out | Sold out |
Remy | 3:50pm | 4:10pm |
Frozen | 11:55am | 12pm |
SDD | 5:40pm | 5:40pm |
Navi | 11:10am | 11:20am |
From the video's I've seen on YT the further out you book the better the selections are. I hope that to be true.
They could have done this by letting resort guests book their first ride only and kept the best parts of genie but instead they now made it the worst version of line skip since its inceptionI think part of this is they need to fill rooms. They have taken away all the good perks for staying at an overpriced Disney resort.
The 7 days out booking is a huge perk. Also IMO the type of people willing to pay the cost of staying in the Disney bubble like to pre plan. They liked booking ADR's at 180 days out and booking FP+ at 60 days. It also gives them an easy promo opportunity to fill rooms if they want to. Free MLL with Deluxe resort booking!
One pre booked ride isn't good enough. It needs to be 3 to fill rooms.They could have done this by letting resort guests book their first ride only and kept the best parts of genie but instead they now made it the worst version of line skip since its inception
You obviously don't understand how it works 2 ILLs, first pre booked and a VQ would be 4 in advance.One pre booked ride isn't good enough. It needs to be 3 to fill rooms.
You don't understand what other people want.You obviously don't understand how it works 2 ILLs, first pre booked and a VQ would be 4 in advance.
If you could pre book ur first, eliminating the 7am wake up and then have 100% of the rides available to you at 10am when it's time to book your second
Vs
Booking 3 rides, none of your top choices
What would you select?
There's not one logical person that would pick the 3.
Agree 100%......all you had to know was to book every 2 hours or after you used ur last genie.....how is that so hard?How.... I don't understand this at all.... We rode every single ride we wanted using Genie Plus and rope dropping... It wasn't hard at all so I have a hard time believing your post.... It really wasn't hard at all......
This is exactly the problem w this system..........and not only that, it hurts resort guests who do not go right to the parks first thing in the am........We are happy to pay $$$ for premium experiences but this makes me think we will by LLMP a lot less than we used to buy G+ (which was daily). It’s not going to work on arrival day (with the possible exception of AK) to get more than one ride we’d actually want to use it on, and it doesn’t look that valuable for any other day that we aren’t (a) able to get selections for before 10AM and (b) able to get everybody out of the hotel and into a LL by 9ish. And this is during a slow period, right? If they don’t increase capacity, I presume the holiday crush will be a nightmare.
Thats because the new systems (like the FP+ of old) wasn't intended to be a good line skip system.They could have done this by letting resort guests book their first ride only and kept the best parts of genie but instead they now made it the worst version of line skip since its inception
you want 3 crappy rides for $39pp? (said nobody ever btw)You don't understand what other people want.
then you're not using it rightyou want 3 crappy rides for $39pp? thats what you got!
and they could have easily eliminated the 7am thing, giving a clear advantage to resort guests by allowing their first ride pre booked while preserving the best parts of Genie+ that are VASTLY superior to this system that not one person could debate otherwise.....Then Genie would have been just as effective by stacking them during the day… and in theory you could have stacked 3 tier 1 rides where now you cant. So to me Genie was good for everyone sans the 7am part which last i checked is still there lol… anyone who wanted to stroll in later could have had at least 4 rides booked via Genie if you get to park after 3pm and if you came at 5 you could have 5 booked not counting ILL. So you can walk in park at 5pm and literally have 6 rides booked to enjoy with zero hassle. Now you cant so
Agree 100%......all you had to know was to book every 2 hours or after you used ur last genie.....how is that so hard?
and i got any ride i wanted in any park (as long as i got SDD at 7am)
what if you are one of the 90% of guests who do not rope drop? its worse for 90% of guests, day or resortFWIW, I think this kind of touring works nicely with the LLMP style system. It’s basically the ideal style of touring for it (a midday break). Move through your first 3 quickly in conjunction with rope drop attractions, maybe grab 1-2 more before you leave, and have 3 booked somewhere for your evening with the bonus of having your afternoon break to refine things using drops and such.
I’d argue it’s better than Genie+ for that (Genie+ does better with a late entry to the park or no exit at all IMO) but YMMV.
Ride | Normal return time | Best return time within the 5 refreshes | |
Big Thunder | Sold out | ||
Buzz | 4:35pm | ||
HM | 8:25pm | ||
Jungle Cruise | Sold out | ||
Pooh | 8:35pm | ||
Pirates |
| 1:55pm | |
SM | 6:20pm | 5:30pm | |
Tiana | Sold out | ||
Frozen | Sold out | ||
MS | 8:30pm | ||
Remy | Sold out | ||
MMRR | 3:45pm | ||
MFSR | 2:45pm | ||
RnRC | 7:00pm | 4:30pm | |
SDD | Sold out | ||
TSMM | Sold out | 2:40pm | |
ToT | Sold out | 8:15pm | |
EE | 1:40pm | ||
Kali | 4:50pm | ||
Navi | 4:55pm |
what about all the people that go to buy it and see sold out and have no clue about drops (prob 90% of the users buying it)? they will never buy itMultiple reports and YouTube videos have pointed out that “sold out” is not necessarily a final state at any given time of the day.
Playing the slots/refresh game has so far worked to get LLs for some rides that were showing as no longer available.
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