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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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mikejs78
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We don't know how much they are going to be limiting it.
Probably not too much, otherwise it would be restricted to resort guests only.
MagicHappens1971
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@disneyglimpses does any version of this rumored rework include removing LL from attractions that don't really need it?
crazy4disney
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- In the Parks
- No
Considering they need inventory i cant see how they could get away with that option.
George
Liker of Things
Unrelated to any bigger points about the various glories of the new ride reservation system versus old, but there are more occasions of an over 35 version of me jogging to an attraction to get a paper FP accompanied by a CM popping up and shouting, "no running" than I can recall. Mostly, this happened when entering EPCOT through the international gateway as I made my way towards Soarin'.
George
Liker of Things
Here's a plan to reduce wait times for everything but Kilimanjaro Safaris. No fastpass. No genie plus. No ILL. Whenever anyone enters a Disney theme park, regardless of where on the globe, they get a fastpass for Kilimanjaro Safaris. This would, of course, make the wait for KS a bit longer, but would greatly reduce the wait of all other rides. Picture, if you will, the crowds streaming out of Paris Disneyland trying to catch a flight to Orlando to make their KS time. So that groups with multiple layovers or that have to wait on a resort bus at Disney Springs have a chance, they can spread the fastpass reservation window over two or three days. The first window would open 5 minutes in the future. I thought about using times in the past, but that might lead to some complaints. However, it would encourage time machine innovation. If anyone could do it, Disney fans could!
Ldno
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I can completely see them pulling off a move like this just to fill rooms at the resorts, but jokes on them if not that many resort guests use it in the first place
ChrisM
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It's such an obvious solution that it makes me chuckle that it gets shot down immediately every time it's brought up as a possibility.
"No way! It would never work! People would be outraged! Disney brass won't even consider it!"
Disney brass has already spit the bit multiple times here. People are already outraged. And all paths probably end up at this solution anyway.
It's the most transparent, honest, and likely effective option.
LOL. Same.
WDW Pro
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It sort of depends on if there are more restrictions on travel. If not, demand could take two years to stabilize. If restrictions return, Disney would be stuck trying to convince domestic guests to jump through all these hoops. It's a harder ask in the current climate.
MickeyLuv'r
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Funny thing is, people actually did this, and STILL do this.
Every day people arrive at the park an hour before the park opens.
In the early days of FP+, the kiosk lines got LONG. It was crazy. In the middle of the day, people waited 30+minutes for a PM Fastpass, but the return time would be for like 11pm. Come 11pm, the attraction wait would be 10minutes or less.
Not only that, but often the middle of the day standby for the same attraction was only 30minutes.
The catch is that the people waiting in the kiosk line didn't know what FP they were going to be offered. They probably thought they would be offered a better FP with an early return time.
At the time this happened, booking FP by phone wasn't available in the early days of FP. (Except people staying CL could book FP by text.)
MickeyLuv'r
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Sorta...WDW has a long history of modifying park hours long after they are originally posted.
The initial park hour posting is more what I'd call a placeholder.
Jeff4272
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Off topic a little bit, but read this story today and i think its a true indication of how most people feel........With inflation the way it is, WDW could be in for a rude awakening shortly (taking away perks and adding costs)
www.foxbusiness.com
Has the cost of Disney World become unaffordable for the average American family?
Visiting Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida, has been a must-do for generations in many American families, but some visitors say the experience now costs so much that it might soon be reserved for only the wealthy.
www.foxbusiness.com
Chip Chipperson
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Off topic a little bit, but read this story today and i think its a true indication of how most people feel........With inflation the way it is, WDW could be in for a rude awakening shortly (taking away perks and adding costs)
Has the cost of Disney World become unaffordable for the average American family?
Visiting Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida, has been a must-do for generations in many American families, but some visitors say the experience now costs so much that it might soon be reserved for only the wealthy.
Perhaps. However, I've noticed a trend with Fox News/Fox Business lately where they seem to have a sudden habit of negative articles about Disney (including one recently about their Pride merchandise being "targeted" for kids as if selling clothes in that line kids' sizes is noteworthy at all - almost as if something in the news recently sparked a desire/directive to attack the company for some reason). https://www.foxbusiness.com/retail/disney-lgbtq-clothing-line-kids
That's not to say that rising prices and reduced offerings won't turn some people off of a visit, but the line at the beginning about "leaving many visitors wondering if a Disney vacation is now only reserved for the rich," is a bit of an overreaction. How many rich people are going to stay at a Value-level resort like All-Stars or Pop? There will always be a place at WDW for those who aren't rich, even if wealthier guests enjoy some perks that others don't get and/or can't afford. It's also not a new thing - DVC Moonlight Magic, the DVC Member Lounge, VIPassholder events, Halloween/Christmas parties, After Hours events, Club Level being able to book additional FP+ selections at 90 days if they pay for the option to book 3 extra selections per day, Deluxe resorts having nicer accommodations/amenities/location, different tiers for the Dining Plan, expensive Signature Dining vs. Quick Service, DVC villas having full kitchens and a washer/dryer, etc. have all existed for a while (and some of those don't exist at all at the moment).
Jeff4272
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Yes......But just like what rising gas prices do to Americans, these price changes affect lower income on a higher percentage basis........People that can afford the deluxe rooms probably never even used Magical Express..........for someone who makes $60k per year gas bill to go up by $400 a month is way more impactful than someone who makes $150k a year but yet they both have to pay the same increase
For a lower income family that stay in a value resort, adding round trip transportation that used to be free, parking fees that used to be free, increase in ticket prices that affects them at a much larger percentage vs someone who makes twice as much and stays in a deluxe
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Patcheslee
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I read that, but by their reported costs, seems they stayed in a deluxe and during a high priced ticket time. Questionable if they're the average family or not.Off topic a little bit, but read this story today and i think its a true indication of how most people feel........With inflation the way it is, WDW could be in for a rude awakening shortly (taking away perks and adding costs)
Has the cost of Disney World become unaffordable for the average American family?
Visiting Walt Disney World in Orlando, Florida, has been a must-do for generations in many American families, but some visitors say the experience now costs so much that it might soon be reserved for only the wealthy.
Chip Chipperson
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Great point. $945/night isn't a value or moderate resort rate - and the author made no effort to explain that there are tiered levels to their hotels. And the line about how they "got rid of parking lot trams" doesn't mention the announced plans to bring them back or what role the pandemic played in shutting them down in the first place (both in terms of social distancing and staffing issues). Then there's the "$3,500 for multi-day tickets" for a family of 6. That's $583.33/person and no mention of how many days the tickets were valid or if it included Park Hoppers. The entire article reads as either lazy journalism or intentional misrepresentation of facts, which hurts their argument if they really are concerned about people being priced out because anyone who understands the details that were omitted would likely view this as a hit piece and dismiss it rather than suddenly being outraged about the prices at WDW. But I don't think that's the target audience for the article, anyway. Call it a hunch.