GhostHost1000
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Virtual queue and ILL is possibleIf a ride is ILL, then it's not available on genie +, right? Like I can't get Guardians on genie +.
Virtual queue and ILL is possibleIf a ride is ILL, then it's not available on genie +, right? Like I can't get Guardians on genie +.
Hmm. I forgot you can’t ILL and Genie+ the same rides. My experience with Genie+ is limited to one day over the summer at MK with my mom and two little kiddos, so the ILL rides were never a possibility.See now I assumed something else.
Virtual queue and ILL is possible
So I looked back at my screenshots that I took. You can for sure ride the same ride twice with genie + if you get a lightning lane “select experience” redemption.Okay yeah. But the pay rides aren't on Genie +.
I need to know this, going in April
Then comes to a Disney forum bragging about how many rides he's ridden on New Years DayHowever I realize not everyone is unlucky enough to have DAS eligible family members or be able to cover the added expense so it’s not something I can suggest.
How am I bragging? I’m simply sharing what tactics worked for me.Then comes to a Disney forum bragging about how many rides he's ridden on New Years Day
How can you blame people when new “facts” keep popping up? Your initial post on this was about using Genie+ and the “refresh” system to get multiple rides.How am I bragging? I’m simply sharing what tactics worked for me.
I forget how insufferable some posters are here.
No wonder people don’t share stuff here very often.
Look I have seen posted here MANY times about how people purchased genie and only got 2-3 rides.How can you blame people when new “facts” keep popping up? Your initial post on this was about using Genie+ and the “refresh” system to get multiple rides.
Then when questioned about it you added you “believe” you can only get one ride each on Genie+ but there are some general ways around that rule without saying you used any of them.
When people questioned what you were reporting in that post, suddenly DAS pops up - which has nothing to do with using Genie+ or any refresh system.
Your posts on your experience are quite confusing. Don’t blame people for questioning your “tactics.”
TOO MUCH WORK. It needs to stop be simplified. Less people using it and you wouldn't have to do all this. IMO you charge $120 a person per day and you would eliminate a good chunk of people using it.Look I have seen posted here MANY times about how people purchased genie and only got 2-3 rides.
My whole point is if that’s the case you are doing something very wrong.
This is one of the busiest time of year and genie is working really well IF
1. You don’t mind the cost
2. You don’t mind spending a substantial amount of time on your phone.
I would estimate 10-20 minutes of refreshing per ride.
They don’t care what makes it easiest for the guest. The care what makes the most money. I’m sure if they thought they would make more charging $120 per guest that would already be the price.TOO MUCH WORK. It needs to stop be simplified. Less people using it and you wouldn't have to do all this. IMO you charge $120 a person per day and you would eliminate a good chunk of people using it.
They are slowly heading that way. It started out at $15 and quickly rose to $30.They don’t care what makes it easiest for the guest. The care what makes the most money. I’m sure if they thought they would make more charging $120 per guest that would already be the price.
We also have to consider that once it’s “common knowledge” that genie is worth much less for Epcot and Animal it would be almost impossible to sell at those prices.They are slowly heading that way. It started out at $15 and quickly rose to $30.
I know they will never do it but switching to an Express Pass system would be so much better and simplerWe also have to consider that once it’s “common knowledge” that genie is worth much less for Epcot and Animal it would be almost impossible to sell at those prices.
You left out #3 the part about "Bring a DAS eligible person"..... out.....Look I have seen posted here MANY times about how people purchased genie and only got 2-3 rides.
My whole point is if that’s the case you are doing something very wrong.
This is one of the busiest time of year and genie is working really well IF
1. You don’t mind the cost
2. You don’t mind spending a substantial amount of time on your phone.
I would estimate 10-20 minutes of refreshing per ride.
You can’t use an Ill and a genie+ for the same ride. Ill rides aren’t part of genie plus.Assume they meant ILL
I can see that for Genie. Genie+ is a different thing completely and there isn't much they can do to make it better. There is only so much availability each day. There is only 2 options to make Genie+ better. Either price people out of buying it or limiting how many are sold each day.My understanding is that the issues with Genie/Genie+/ILL are due to the fact that the system is still trying to “learn” and figure out how to act based on actual and predictive data. This is completely separate from Disney’s website or the MDE app itself, it’s how the data is processed and how its use affects user recommendations and itineraries.
In theory, the system will continue to get smarter and smarter, and work better and better to maximize profits, control crowds, and increase guest satisfaction.
But I’m not sure how long public sentiment will hold out. I still expect to see Iger throw parks guests a bone with discounts, coupons, freebies, information—something to incentivize continued use of this really frustrating system.
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