Onsite guests have this perk:
For their daily allotment of paying for two LL$s, they get to do so at 7 AM. Off-site guests have to wait until park opening.
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Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World
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Onsite guests have this perk:
For their daily allotment of paying for two LL$s, they get to do so at 7 AM. Off-site guests have to wait until park opening.
mightynine
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Once you had used your first three Fastpass Pluses, you could then open the app and see if anything was available at any park.
Usually there wasn't much. I did get lucky once and made the app spit out a FOP FP and then a Rivers of Light popped up after that one night.
But it does bring up an interesting thought that we really won't know how it will play out until it used in the real world - I would be somewhat frustrated or let down when the FP options were slim pickings after I'd used my first three (I'd always tried to scheduled them early in the day so I could burn through 'em and try and get something else), but ultimately I just shrugged and kept refreshing.
How's someone going to feel when Genie+ is pushing them towards options they may not be interested in?
lazyboy97o
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They’re two separate things. The rides that will charge individually for Lightning Lane Select Experience access are not part of Lightning Lane access in Genie+. More imagine paying extra to ride a ride that was supposed to be demolished over a decade ago.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Genie without Plus is just the My Disney Experience app, basically.
This will almost definitely be part of Genie+. It will be interesting to see how they handle nighttime entertainment. IMO, FP+ handled that poorly, and DLR FP handled it well by separating it from attraction FPs.
That said, nighttime entertainment will be more impacted by this at DLR than WDW. Most shows at WDW don’t really require an FP in order to get a good view (e.g. Epcot where anywhere around the lagoon is good).
At DLR, both Fantasmic and WoC have historically required either an FP or dining package in order to get a good view. If that remains the case, but FP/LL is only available via Genie+, it essentially means that you’ll have to pay-up for a good view.
DonaldDoleWhip
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I don't disagree with this either, and a clear demonstrative example is Artist Point. I loved it as a signature restaurant (most of the time), but it was never difficult to book and always fairly empty.
Lower the food quality, throw in some incongruous characters, and boom: it became one of WDW's toughest dining reservations to score. I hate the way things panned out, but it was clearly a good business decision.
In this case, a lot will depend on the impact of Genie, Genie+, and Lightning Lanes. Will the increasingly burdensome complexity start turning off casual visitors? Will the vocal backlash scare first-timers away from committing? Or will standby lines become much more manageable overall? Honestly, this was a sore point for FP+, where those without resort reservations (and the drive to lock things in 60+ days in advance at 7am) could be blocked out of short waits on the hottest must-sees. Genie could very well improve the experience, but let's see.
Missing20K
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And this isn’t paid fastpass for the BG eligible rides, how? (Not posing that question to you, just asking the ether)
We all know GotG will be BG in place of TT so that will likely be three BG attractions across property.
And in essence, the 30 minute Early Entry is Disney’s way of giving onsite folks one “free” Lightning Pass. As long as you like to rope drop.
matt9112
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Based of the paris system i believe and some insider info. Im not sure if it is 100%
If options is how you decide if something is good or not woah "man" your the "man" and im the "dude" man.
More options = better. Got it.
PizzaPlanet
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From what I understand boarding groups are already a terrible experience. It might be unusable now that they're taking away capacity and charging for it.
HAHAHAHA REinvest in something they havent for almost 20 Years HAHAHAHAHA
matt9112
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More choices! More flexibility to plan your vacation! Some guests dont want to do m&gs why would we force them to? This way our guests can plan and purchase expeirences most important to them!
Waters Back Side
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This! Because availability goes hand in hand with when and what you book at 7 AM. Try waiting 2 hours and see if you get the same ride you wanted to book at 7 AM. Or try to purchase FOP at 9 AM instead of 7 AM...They might be sold out.
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matt9112
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I always find it hilarious that discrimination can never involve money.
Good place to start is this FAQ -
9. Is Disney Genie a new app?
Disney Genie will be accessed via My Disney Experience, the existing Walt Disney World app available for iOS and Android.
Disney Genie, Genie+, and Lightning Lane FAQ for Walt Disney World
Your most frequently asked questions about the new Disney Genie service coming to Walt Disney World.
www.wdwmagic.com
Waters Back Side
Well-Known Member
It will probably be deployed as a separate App as the MDE> Eventually I think it will become the all in one app. They already will out of the gate allow you to make dining reservations.
ImperfectPixie
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)This isn’t entirely accurate. A couple of years ago Disney added new functionality to the FP+ system allowing for “segmentation”. Essentially it allowed TDO to selectively modify business rules/logic based on all sorts of things (e.g. which discount/offer you booked your resort stay with).
At one point, they had a resort/hotel discount offer that included FP+ with park hopping — essentially you could pre-book FPs in multiple parks per day instead of just one park per day.