Jrb1979
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IMO why they should scrap this system.
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All other things being equal, systems like G+will function better in a park with more overall attraction capacity, even if it isn’t part of the G+ system, since the non G+ capacity will lower demand on the G+ System.
Purduevian
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Yeah I guess I can see that. I'll go back to my original question though. Why does that mean preventing people from booking their first G+ until they get into the park works for DLR but not WDW?
It would prevent the mad dash at 7am and at least let times flow a little more naturally once park gates open.
Disney Glimpses
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No what I mean is if you let people only make reservations after scanning, all day long people would be on their phone immediately after scanning, walking slowly and aimlessly clogging up the entrances.
crazy4disney
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- In the Parks
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The 2 coasts and the way people visit them are vastly different. Come on. You have to admit that… & God bless. Guess you are on of the lucky ones. Again i dont know how Genie can ever compare to FP+ when i literally never had an issue booking ANY rides i wanted and all before say noonish. With Genie that is literally impossible. As i said. I go back in 7 weeks. For round 2. We shall see what happens but again. The days of riding 7DMT than heading over to Splash and BTM are longggg gone in a row with no waits. Not to mention being able to grab other attractions worthy ones after using my 3rd within a decent return time again is long gone. & i also noticed wait times were longer which made DAS that much more less valuable.
crazy4disney
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And then you alienate how many people from using this system bc it would be extremely high priced and extremely limited to be effective. So i guess so much for listening to customers complaining that they feel like they are being either priced out or put in some class system. Not staying deluxe which basically took away a lousy 4 hours over a weeks time which if you have little ones didnt effect you at all. Kinda ticked people off. Imagine going Uni’s way after a “free” system.
Jrb1979
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As you said some one loses no matter what system they use. At least with Universal's system it doesn't affect standby as much as Disney's system
mikejs78
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This caused huge problems with the Rise VQ, which is why they moved it to 7 AM.
mikejs78
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No but sometimes you have Express Pass lines approaching 40 minutes...
I agree. That would be a big improvement.
Jrb1979
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You sometimes have that with Genie+ as well. No system is perfect. The reason I love Universal's system is the simplicity of it. Personally it's my family's biggest gripe with Disney. A theme park vacation shouldn't require this much work to enjoy. We can deal with reservations for dinner as most places you vacation it's needed. As far as the parks themselves there is no reason it's need to be this complex to visit.
To add to that, the quote @disneyglimpses posted yesterday on why they do all these things blows my mind and shows how out to lunch they are in regards to park operations.
Their view of a perfect world is the same number of people at the parks all day every day with the same ratio of vacationers to locals. This is their attempt to achieve that.
Chi84
Premium Member
Expensive passes would also help get rid of those undesirable large families clogging up the WDW resorts with their 10 or 14-day stays.
Jrb1979
Well-Known Member
No necessarily. People would eventually adapt to it.
Chi84
Premium Member
They would. I suspect Disney knows exactly how.
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UNCgolf
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Why not? If people are enjoying them, they should be updated and enjoyed for decades to come. Look at all the classics at Disneyland that people still love!
That’s what I say about Star Wars land, and New Fantasylans as well.
I agree that Galaxy's Edge and New Fantasyland should have been better, but they look like masterpieces in planning compared to Toy Story Land. Both of the former have far more to do than the latter.
crazy4disney
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How can you say that?!? Lines are going nowhere anytime soon. There simply isnt enough capacity & hours along w the downtime daily for these rides its gonna be hell. I actually hope they do this to finally put to rest that FP/Genie ruined the parks and created these wait times when you still have 60-90-120 minutes lines on rides etc.
lazyboy97o
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You’re demonstrating right here how these systems have allowed Disney to get away with less and less capacity.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Except the data didn’t support that…which is why it’s gone.
See above
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Exactly…as does expectation and grievance level.
I’m not saying the genie is great by any means…but it’s usable. The day off
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KingdomofDreams
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IMO they have the perfect solution at DLP. Premier Access Ultimate in conjunction with Premier Access One. Ultimate being the ideal, but for those who can't afford it or choose not to spend the extra cash, Access One provides a good alternative.